Apparently being overweight is not as harmful as is commonly believed.....

@James72 (26790)
Australia
December 12, 2008 3:53am CST
Being five to ten pounds overweight could protect people from ailments ranging from tuberculosis to Alzheimer's disease, research indicates. Those carrying 15 to 25 extra pounds are better able to recover from adverse conditions such as emphysema, pneumonia, and various injuries and infections, states the report. Thirty to forty pounds of flab could help fend off breast, kidney, pancreatic, prostate, and colon cancer. And an extra fifty pounds on the scale may improve eyesight, reverse baldness, cure the common cold, and reduce global warming...... In general, the report concludes, overweight people are happier, more successful in business, smarter, and friendlier. The study was funded by a research grant from McDonald's, Burger King, Domino's Pizza, KFC and Krispy Kream. Seriously though, I wonder how much truth there may actually be in the sense that big corporations will manipulate findings to suit their lines of business? What do you think?
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
14 Dec 08
I don't know if it's true or not (got to ask my husband about this new finding). Considering that the funding for the research was done by coporations that would WANT people to be overweight, I wonder how much truth there is in the matter. IF there is any truth in the findings, then I guess I should be the first one to worry....coz I'm not overweight.......and a lot of bad things can happen to me!lol...now..should I start worrying or leave it at that?
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
14 Dec 08
lol...I try to keep up with the action WHEN I am around (quite unsuccessful with the amount that I miss when I am not). I thought I needed to pep up that Sunday of yours....I'm going to back next Sunday and more often after that.....yay!!! Be prepared, 'twin'!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
14 Dec 08
Sunday is the first day of the working week for me so this should be interesting! lol. It will be nice to have you around regularly though and FAR more manageable too!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
14 Dec 08
You certainly keep me on my toes when you return th mylot Sandhya! lol. Just for the record, this "article" was a parody and is not factual at all. I used the jovial example to lead into the question regarding whether there is corporate manipulation of statistics to aid their causes or not. The mighty dollar reigns supreme in most cases unfortunately, so it would not surprise me at all if there WAS underhanded tactics going on. Thanks for the response and I would leave it at that! Common sense prevails and most of the information we read about changes constantly anyways!
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@balasri (26537)
• India
14 Dec 08
I do remember my hefty uncle who underwent bypass surgery.He withstood the surgery very well and recouped so fast.Doctors said he is well built and strong ans so he was healed fast.Somehow it dawned on me at that time that being a little over weight makes one stronger.
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@balasri (26537)
• India
14 Dec 08
We definitely cannot assume and take anything for granted as far as the medical facts are concerned.They keep coming with new findings and facts everyday.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
14 Dec 08
They certainly do bala. And it can become really confusing at times too. All we can use is common sense and also try to "listen" to our own bodies as well as we can. A regular check-up is of benefit also, so if we are doing something that is not of benefit, we can at least catch it early!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
14 Dec 08
Your Uncle must be very strong indeed bala, but I think it all comes down to the individual and it can be dangerous ground for us to assume that being overweight is of benefit for all of us in times such as these. My own Grandmother was a very heavy woman, but she had a heart as strong as an ox! But her weight did eventually cause her many problems. Thanks for the response.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
11 Apr 09
Well, if there is any truth in that then I should be full of health and wonder why half the world is starving their selves to remain then since the doctor is always telling people they are overweight..and wants them to diet if they are over 10 pounds what their weight should be. I am overweight and I can say..we are not happier..healthier..and my eyesight ain't worth crap..and not successful..So..it must be totally wrong and they just twisted the results around to suit their needs. Or they had a few quacks as researchers.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
13 Apr 09
Thanks..I am just glad I got through Easter without any damage..lol..
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
14 Apr 09
I didn't eat any crap over Easter either. All I had was one small chocolate Lindt bunny! I found a pack of them at a supermarket and was quite surprised to see them here, so bought 'em for my Wife. Happy Easter to you and your family!
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
12 Apr 09
Heya mtdewgurl, nice to see you back! My post was of course purely fictional, but I have no doubt that corporations do twist statistics and other angles to help create a more positive spin that increases consumption of their products. There is a completely messed up view of health and nutrition in this world in my opinion. The sterotype created by savvy marketers is totally wrong for one; and the obsession with dieting is doing more harm than good too. The formula for losing weight is pretty straightforward really..... Burn off more calories per day than we consume! Eat right, use moderation when eating things that aren't of benefit and exercise regularly! So many diets constantly spring up, people pop diet pills, a quick fix is always sought..... It really is quite a vicious circle in that regard and what many people are embracing these days is ultimately failing them. But of course it's a multi-billion dollar a years business, so there'll be no easing up on these angles anytime soon! You can definitely be overweight and still healthy, no question! But I don't believe for one second that all overweight people are happier, because society will always make it difficult for them to be this way. Thanks for the comments here and I hope you are able to find success with your own approaches that you've shared with me before.
@zalilame (880)
• Malaysia
12 Dec 08
That kind of study is very humiliating for overweight people. They should be treated with respect and not manipulated.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
12 Dec 08
It certainly would be if it were real zalilame. This is a satirical post and not a real study excerpt at all. I used it as a lead in to ask if people thought that this type of thing may actually occur or not. Personally I believe that to a lesser degree, it probably does; and some corporations would mislead the public with complimentary health data that is not necessarily accurate at all. Thanks for the response.
@savak03 (6684)
• United States
20 Apr 09
Ah ha, you did one of those discussions that was supposed to be funny and everyone took you seriously. Didn't you learn anything from my example?
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
20 Apr 09
Heya savak, long time no see! Let's just call this discussion a sociological experiment of sorts! Yes, it was a humorous play in one sense, but it was also alluding to the serious case of corporations etc manipulating data to suit promotional purposes. Serious AND humourous answers both have a place then!
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
21 Apr 09
It's great to see that real life has provided you with such an opportunity savak! I've been caught up more and more with work lately, so I totally understand. There's always a happy medium to be found though and an occasional savak is better than no savak at all! I hear ya about the coffee too. I guess we can add egss, avacado and many other things to that list as well. "Experts" change their minds like the damn weather! lol. Maybe we should all just stick to purified air inhalation just to be on the safe side?
@savak03 (6684)
• United States
20 Apr 09
You've got a point there. I've always maintained that corporations manipulate statistics to suit their needs. For instance, I frequently tell the story about an article that went on and on about how coffee was not good for you. It was a lengthy article and before I had reached the end the author was also telling the benefits of drinking coffee. So I ask you, If coffee is not good for you how can it have benefits? Huh? By the way I have been kinda busy with the job that pays the bills. We've got a new client and I have been setting up the stores. Never fear I will pop in from time to time because I have such a ball here on the lot.
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
14 Feb 09
I can't believe this crap. LOL.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
14 Feb 09
Oh it IS crap Theresa! lol. I made it all up to make a point. And yes, you are very right in saying that different companies offering different products would have completely different spins on exactly the same thing! This is the problem, it all comes down to self-promotion by companies and along the way, the actual truth gets lost in all the BS! No wonder we have issues with obesity and things like that. Thanks for the response.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
14 Feb 09
I mean, what are the chances that the results of these studies weren't manipulated to suit or to benefit these companies? I bet if slimming tea companies were gonna run their own test, it will yield different results right? Whew, sometimes we don't know who to believe anymore.
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
17 Feb 09
I'd be most concerned if some obese person's gonna celebrate it with jumbo-sized servings of fries, and burger, Coke float, chicken nuggets....after reading this. I admit my mouth just watered but I can't help feeling sorry for that person who didn't know you made it all up. Haha. (Did you really make it all up?)
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@alokn99 (5717)
• India
12 Dec 08
Reduce Global Warming. Now i wonder how is that supposed to happen by someone being overweight. If one is to by this study, then eat all the junk food, prevent all the above from happening, improve whatever is also mentioned above and suffer from all that which the problems caused by overweight. Frankly it sounds ridiculous if this is a means of trying to promote thier products. Do they have the statuatory warning sign of eating rich and junk foods and the risks of the overweight caused by over indulging. The next thing you know, someone will talk about the health benefits of smoking.
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@alokn99 (5717)
• India
12 Dec 08
Maybe in panda spanking would be appropriate or a warning sign here as to not to take this post seriously and if such a thing etc,etc.. I have not heard about the organic smoking. .
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@cyberfluf (4996)
• Netherlands
28 Oct 09
I seriously think they have a lot of influence and they might even manipulate people. On the other hand, industries promoting health food are getting bigger and bigger aswell so they not only have other fast food companies to run against, but also the healthier suppliers. That's why Mac Donalds has introduced the salads, squeezable fruit packages for the kiddies and so on. They are promoting to exercise regularly (because eating unhealthy isn't unhealthy if you jog the pounds off straight away). So they are sensing the healthy trend and trying to save their behind . I have read a lot of research and being a little overweight is healthier than being underweight. But when we talk about a little that's no more than up to 10 kilo's. I don't know about protection of ailments but wouldn't it be lovely if we could eat our way to protection of alzheimer and colon cancer? .
@cyberfluf (4996)
• Netherlands
8 Nov 09
I'd eat a gallon of Ben en Jerries Caramel Chew Chew if it protected me (or not, at least didn't do any damage . Not to worry, James. I haven't been posting all that much lately due to my work, studies and the intership I currently do. I am 5 days away from home and 2 schoolnights. The other time is neccesairy to keep up with my homework, doing laundry and cleaning my house, etc. Little time for mylot, but I am sure that we'll keep in touch . All the best!
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
8 Nov 09
Good heavens, I'm soooooooo late in replying here! My apologies cyberfluf. I agree with you totally and there's no question in my mind that major food manufacturers have a lot of influence in the market. Manipulation is a given too because it's all about commercialism and profit. McDonalds were very clever in my opinion, as the movie "Super Size Me" really did some PR damage. Introducing the healthier options menu was a smart move! They would've attracted a whole new demographic in the process as well. And yes, I'd love to be able to eat certain foods to protect myself from disease! Preferably chocolate too!
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@riyasam (16556)
• India
12 Dec 08
my kids would jump with glee,if they knew of these reasearches by their favourites outlets(i always advice them to have food at home which i tell them is more healthy)an occassional outside food is okay.the side-effects of obesity out weigh the benefits.The more obese a person is, the more likely he or she is to develop health problems. Mild obesity involving a body mass index (BMI) of 30+, is less dangerous to health than morbid obesity (BMI 40+) or malignant obesity (BMI 50+). For example, someone who is 40 percent overweight is twice as likely to die prematurely as an average-weight person. This effect is seen after 10 to 30 years of being obese.
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@riyasam (16556)
• India
12 Dec 08
i know you said all this in jest.but as for the explaining part.i know you are very good at explaining.you ar sure nobody in your family is a preacher or an orator??
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
12 Dec 08
No riya. But would you like me to be? I will give it a go at least!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
12 Dec 08
I really need to add another opening line to the post that states that this is NOT a real article riya! (Shame that I can't!) What you have said is very true and the higher the level of fat in our bodies, the greater the health risks. The "article" I provided is a parody and was to lead in to the question at the end. This is why I placed the bit about KFC etc in bold and put the crazy face at the end. It seems that I have a lot of explaining ahead of me! Thanks for the response.
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@Daffodil20 (1754)
• India
15 Dec 08
I am really confused. Is it a serious study result or a joke James? If it is a genuine research then i am so happy to know about it because it means I can have chocolates and yummy dishes with less thought of weight increase.lol
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
15 Dec 08
lol. Nah, it's a joke Daffodil so you will have to watch your chocolate and junk food intake I'm afraid! I do feel though that food corporations would probably manipulate statistical information to a lesser degree to aid their causes though. Anyways, as long as we eat junk foods etc in moderation I see no reason why we can't let go once in a while! Thanks for the response and save some chocolate for me!
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• India
15 Dec 08
Oh yes! No doubt about the manipulations, if they could. Hahahahahah, I guessed so. But as you said once in a while we must let go and Feast............ Nevertheless, Thanks for the laugh James!
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
12 Nov 09
I've always thought that too much of some thing is bad, and I've seen healthy overweight people as well as thin ones too. But being overweight as not being harmful; well, there is really a bit more to it than meets the eye. It is as though saying that smoking is good for health; something like that. LOL... It should be exercising is good for both overweight and non-overweight people. . Nice discussion, James..
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Oct 09
Brownie?
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
8 Nov 09
What other colour options do you have available?
@dolcias (302)
• Egypt
13 Dec 08
hahahaha,that was a good one! and hey!...you changed your avatar back!..i like this one better
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
13 Dec 08
I am happy that you realized this was a joke dolcias. I have been explaining a lot that it is not real because I wasn't clear enough in the discussion wording it seems..... Yes, I just couldn't get used to seeing the other one so I went back to the original tail but with a different background. Thanks for the response and I am glad you like the new avatar.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
13 Dec 08
Unfortunately it has been taken seriously by a few so far, yes. But it opens up further discussion so all is good!
@dolcias (302)
• Egypt
13 Dec 08
you mean people didn't notice it was a joke?..hahah...you must be kidding!
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• India
11 Nov 09
I've an extra 50 pounds wrapped around me ! Yeeeyyy !!! I reduced global warming and that means I get all the above mentioned benefits, right ??? Plus, I'll be more successful in business, smarter and friendlier. Wait a second, my gf doesn't think so ... Oh heck, leave everything else, I know those extra pounds make me a lot happier !!! Hiya James, how are you buddy ??? Has the winter started there, wherever you are ....
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@miamilady (4910)
• United States
14 Feb 09
LOL LOVE the kicker. Who funded the study? Of course! I couldn't go on about my belief of how "studies" are often manipulated, but I won't right now. I do think there is probably some truth to those facts or at least, to that way of thinking. I think 5,10 or 15 lbs overweight is no big deal. And I think our society makes way TOO MUCH of weight issues. Of course, I guess I HAVE to think that, cuz I'm a few pounds overweight myself, (by societies standards) I saw a report on television showing examples of twins and how they aged differently. It pointed out that weight loss actually made people look older. Of course that's because when you lose weight, the skin will sag more. If you are a few pounds overweight your skin is "plumped up" a little more and therefore is reduces the appearance of wrinkles. The other thing that I want to mention that I think is somewhat related to the "study" is that sometimes when you suffer from a serious illness you end up losing a lot of weight. If you are a few pounds overweight it is probably not such a big deal and it turns out to be one of the "perks" if having suffered from that illness. If you start off with ZERO body fat, or whatever percentage skinny people have, and then you get sick, I imagine the results are far more problematic. What do you think?
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
14 Feb 09
Oh, goodness miamilady! There are so m,any factors that come into play here it would take eons to cover them all! lol. Firstly, there are many studies already done that show it's INTERNAL fat that causes a majority of issues! Just because an individual is outwardly thin, it doesn't mean they have a low level of internal fat at all. Major organs could be absolutely swimming in fat for all we know! Then there's the media attention to this "heroin chic" look in models. Skinny as heck and totally unrelatable for the masses. Eating problems, unrealistic self-expectations etc.... ALL stem from these ridiculous representations! You only have to look at the furore surrounding Jessica Simpson's current body shape to see how biased and negative the press can be. Yet she is STILL below average whne you consider her current body type! There are also hormonal contributors, glandular contributors, medicinal contributors..... The list goes on and on and on..... THIN does not necessarily mean healthy, no question; but we as whole do need to be more self conscious about what we consume and how we manage our lifestyles. Obesity IS on the rise globally and the associated health issues are obviously growing in parallel. And I have no doubt in my mind that corporations and savvy marketers are not only adding fuel to the fire; they're loving each and every minute of it! Thanks for your extremely valid comments.
• United States
16 Apr 09
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!! *falling out of chair* *wiping tears on shirt* LMAO!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!! I was reading right along and thinking....... WOW...... then I got to who funded this research and LOST IT!!!!! I can't finish reading!!! LMAO!!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
16 Apr 09
It was looking pretty promising for a while there wasn't it!
@elitess (5070)
• Ipswich, England
26 Oct 09
Hi there James... Was this an April first joke ? I can't really be expected to believe such nonsense :D If i started to believe everything they say on television, i would end up eating broccoli and drink water only because any other meal has something wrong in it :)) I do think this is a big make up of a story from them, in order to make people eat more at junk, i mean fast food stores ;)
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
27 Oct 09
Of course it's made up mate! We can't be expecting me to get all SERIOUS now can we? LMAO. Jeez, wouldn't it be nice if it were true though? If I were to believe half the crap I hear, see and read about what's good and what's bad, I'd never leave the house and I'd live on air! (Purified and filtered air of course!)
@lyzabelle (1668)
• Philippines
27 Oct 09
How could that be possible. We are lead to believe that being overweight can cause many illness. This study will need tons of evidence before I will believe it. Maybe they are just trying to protect their products...
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
27 Oct 09
We are all cows to the slaughter when it comes to consumerism unfortunately and savvy marketers will do anything they can to lure us into that line! The question is WHAT product or service will they get each one of us with? In all seriousness, what it comes down to is self awareness, common sense; and most importantly, moderation.
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
15 Dec 08
I actually would like some Dunkin' Donuts right now. That is why small print is convenient and helpful for these kinds of research, James. I guess they're giving potential plaintiffs or suers who are dense enough to believe that it is the companies' fault that they now have all these ailments and weight gain more evidence against them.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
15 Dec 08
Actually I wouldn't mind some donuts myself now that you mention it. I am not aware of any such stores in Cairo though so if you do end up getting some, eat a couple extra in my honour! I am sure that these corporations have very savvy legal teams that are very aware of the litigious society they are operating in and in response to that, would be treading the legal lines very, very carefully. In most countries, it is a requirement to provide detailed breakdowns of fat content etc so people are aware of what they are ingesting; but this is really not optimal if there is no parallel education strategies in place and moves to convince people to eat healthier! Why would these junk food corporations wish to change anything anyways? Arguably they ARE to blame on many levels because they are dedicated to tempting the public repeatedly, avoiding true representations of the effects of their foods; and focusing purely on revenues just like any other corporation. Statistical growth over the last 20 years on obesity related issues is a testament to the damage they are doing. But ultimately it does come down to the individual and self control, yes. Moderation is key here but many people opt for convenience instead and damn the consequences. It will be interesting to see where things are in this regard in another 20 years from now. All I do know, is that it will not be positive unless many things change. Thanks for the response SaintAnne and don't forget the donuts.
@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
22 Apr 09
What? I thought the perfect size for a woman was the size 0. I thought that your body fat couldn't be more than 2% or you were socially undesirable! OMG, let me at the donuts. This new reporting it liberating!!!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Apr 09
I forgot to mention that for every donut we eat, 50 grams of fat magically disappear from our bodies! Stock up kpr, stock up!