My daughter is sleeping later and later...

Singapore
January 2, 2009 10:59am CST
I think my daughter is changing her sleep pattern, but I can't figure out what's happening. Let me brief you on her schedule. She is two by the way. She wakes up a little past 7am in the morning. Then takes a nap for 2-3 hours from around 2.30 pm. (She used to sleep earlier latest 2pm for 3 hours.) She is so well-rested that she is awake until past 10 pm nowadays. It's driving me crazy. Today was the worst. I brought her to sleep at 9pm, but she could not sleep, then my husband came home from work around 10pm and she became wide awake but very tired. Then she fell asleep around 11pm, but was awoken by a sudden loud noise after a few minutes, which made her cry. SHe did not even want to go into the bedroom to sleep. This is very disturbing. I don't know what to do. I'm trying to cut back her nap time in the day, but she can't even open her eyes and would get cranky when awoken earlier. Any suggestions?
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@Ithink (9980)
• United States
3 Jan 09
I can actually say I know how you feel, first of all we have a 2 year old and her sleeping pattern is all over the place. However I still put her to bed within an hour of what her normal bedtime is. During this time she will play with her glow seahorse or lay and yes sometimes keep saying mommy or daddy but she gets so she knows that it is bedtime. As for the naps, she has taken them in so long I cant remember what that is even like. LOL! However she surprised me today and took a nap of about 1 1/2 hours. She went to bed at about 9:00 with a few I want to play. I told her night-night, did the normal night routine again and she went to bed. I think the hours change when they go thru growth spurts and even when something is just off in their normal routine. For the naps maybe if you try to shorten them little by little that might work. All 7 of our older kids did this too. Soon enough they seem to settle into a new routine and it was normally within an hour of the old one. Good luck!
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
Hi iThink, You are very encouraging. You mean she doesn't nap anymore. Doesn't she get over tired by the end of the day? Since you have so many kids, I think you have a lot of experience with different types of kids. After I implemented shorter naps, and eariler than usual, she is doing great. When I put her to bed at 9pm, she may want to play a little and sometimes ask for her daddy. She knows her daddy is outside. She thinks he's still playing. But she settles down latest 10 pm. So far so good. Thank you for responding!
@Ithink (9980)
• United States
8 Jan 09
Yep she doesn't normally take naps at all when she does I'm in shock and in heaven. . No she doesn't get over tired either or even cranky. She seems to be one that can just go and go. I would love to have her energy! That is the thing all kids are different, some need more sleep then others. Just as each child has their own personalities. I do think that the change of season, growth spurts and even changes that we think are no big deal can make them off. I'm glad that it is going so good for you, with her. Even us parents need breaks! Mine is when she goes to bed at 9 and then I have at least a couple hours to do a few things.
@brian_s (570)
• United States
8 Jan 09
I don't know what to say. I'm 27 and don't have a consistent sleep pattern.
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
When you're 27, I guess you can handle it. But a child gets really cranky when they don't have enough of their sleep. Anyway, thank you for your response!
• India
7 Jan 09
I am sorry I can't help you here, but maybe it has got something to do with growing up? I have no kids, so don't really know what changes kids' sleep patterns undergo as they grow. Cheers and happy Mylotting
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
Don't worry about it, positiveminded. There are so many mylotters here who have come forth to offer their valuable advice. You can give me advice when it comes to writing. i need a lot of that! Cheers!
@gr8life (6251)
• Malaysia
5 Jan 09
Hello SydneyHazelton, My son is two years old too. He has the same sleep pattern like your daughter. He is a very active boy and non stop doing something the entire day and night. Whenever he is very tired, he will sleep around 2-3 pm for 2-3 hours. If he takes a nap during day time, he will wide awake at night and I need to force him to sleep. If he doesn't take his nap, he will fall asleep early at night around 8 pm. Whenever he doesn't want to sleep past 9pm, I will bring him to the bedroom, switch off the light and pretend to sleep beside him. He doesn't like to be in the dark and normally he will non stop talking until he feels tired and sleep. But, he has to wake up at the same time in the morning (at about 7am) during weekdays as both my husband and I need to go to work and I need to send him to his babysitter.
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
I think Asian kids have different sleep patterns than Caucasian kids. I don't know if the weather difference affects their sleep patterns. Anyway, I have adjusted her nap time to be earlier at 1pm. She wakes up not later than 4pm. She goes on with her playing. By 9pm, she should be ready to sleep. But she doesn't fall asleep immediately. Have to sing, play a little, prevent her from climbing out of her bed, then finally she will fall asleep. My daughter does not mind the dark at all. She can walk around the room, but we have a small night light on. So far it's working. I don;t have the energy to stay up with her past 10 or almost eleven. So I think adjusting her naptime suits me. Thank you for your response!
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@di1159 (1580)
• United States
3 Jan 09
Another reason they are called the terrible twos! I would try to cut her napping time so that she goes to bed earlier and might sleep a little later in the morning. She will need less nap time as she gets older. This will continue till she starts school and gets into a routine, which will again change when she becomes a teen and turns into a vampire, staying up all night on the weekends and sleeping into the afternoon. My 13 year old daughter has been on winter break for a couple of weeks and follows this ritual sleeping pattern with all her friends. They go to their room, but watch TV or play games until 5 and then by 3 in the afternoon, their hungry stomachs awaken them.
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
I have decided to cut her nap time and bear with a little crankiness. I also made her nap earlier than her usual 2 or 3pm, so that she will wake up by 3 or 4pm. Then she will snack, I will bring her to the playground and play. She loves it. So far she sleeps around 9 plus to ten. Better than what it used to be. I think the change need to be gradual. I know my teenage cousins also do that. Sleeping till noon and stay up late to play games on the net with people from the other part of the world.
• Philippines
5 Jan 09
Hi Sydney! Your discussion is similar to beth, which I just answered earlier , but then again, I;d like to share the information I read from magazine, I hope this helps you as a parent and helps your baby as well. If you child tends towards short naps, don't give in and assume that its all the nap time that he needs. Try some of these tips for increasing the length of his naps. 1. Give your child lunch or a snack about a half hour before nap. 2. Make certain the sleeping room is dark. 3. Play soothing music or white noise during the entire nap. 4. Make sure that your child is comfortable. 5. Check to see if discomfort from teething, allergies, asthma, ear infection or other health related issues are preventing your child from taking longer naps. This is the average hours of daytime and night time sleep: For 2 years old: Number of naps is 1, total lenght of nap time hours is,1-2.5, nightime sleep hours 11-12, total night time and nap time sleep is 13-13.5 Children differ in their sleeps needs, some naturally needing less or more than shown here-but what follows is a general guide that applies to most of them. When in doubt always try for a nap, since even a period of quiet time can help a child feel more refreshed.... Happy mylotting!
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
I like what you mentioned. The sleeping guide is wonderful. At least I know where we stand now. I like tip #1 and #4 the best. I have pushed her lunch nearer her nap time. Right after her lunch, she takes a shower so she would feel comfortable and more inclined to nap after that. It's wonderful. Seems to work. But not all the tips there are relevant. Works for some kids, but not for others. I think music will make my daughter want to wake up and dance. LOL! Thank you for your response!
• United States
3 Jan 09
Okay, I have a way to handle this. Wake her up at 7 or 8AM. Keep her busy during the entire day and she will want to sleep come 9PM. Limit nap time to one hour or less, any more than that and she will not want to sleep. She might hate you for it at first, but it is for her own good. Remember, you are the mother and she is the child, you have the power to change things. Come up with a routine if you have to, a schedule. In the mornings have her eat breakfast and play around for awhile, next feed her a snack or lunch, then have her play around some more. Nap time should be at 2PM or 3PM and make sure it is for an hour or less, do not let her sleep any longer than that. She is two, so guess what, she can and will throw tantrums ("terrible two's" remember?). My cousin has twins and they had those kids on a schedule from the time they were six months old because there is two of them and things can get crazy very fast. They are four now and that schedule has been a lifesaver.
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
I do try to keep to a routine for her. BU it seems that I have been adjusting to her pattern rather than her mine. As such it is time for a change and I need to set the routine for her. Nowadays, I wake her up by 8am, usualluy earlier. She has breakfast, play, bath, snack, play, lunch, shower, nap. So far so good. I think I'm getting her to nap earlier after her noon shower. She goes right to sleep. Thank you for your response! It's very insightful.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
2 Jan 09
do it gradually if she sleeps three hours normally wake her up at 2 and a half then 2, hours, at night give her a snack that includes warm milk, warm milk is very helpful in making even adults sleepy. also watch what she eats, don't give her stimulants like chocolate that will keep her awake, after that if it doesn't work then you should ask the doctor.
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
Thank you, winterose! I do think that the snack we gave her after dinner could be the cause as well. So we are cutting them out and giving her milk just before her sleep instead. Actually we have always been giving milk before sleep, but I think the snack is the culprit here. Cutting down her nap in the afternoon as well. There goes my writing time... Thank you for your response!
@lilybug (21107)
• United States
2 Jan 09
My daughter has been staying up later and getting up later in the morning lately. It has work these past few weeks since my son is out of school for Christmas break and I don't have to get up so early with him. I would try to shorten her nap by only a few minutes a day until is it short enough that she goes to bed at a reasonable time. Don't try to do it all at once.
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
I'm getting my daughter to nap earlier and shorter so that she will have ample time to play and get tired in the evening. I have tried it for a few days and the situation is improving. She used to sleep after 10.30 and now she's sleeping after nine, latest 10pm. I think it's working, thanks to all the tips I get here from other mylotters.
@gemini_rose (16264)
2 Jan 09
Your first responder pretty much gave a good response. Once kids hit two they do seem to change with their patterns, sometimes quite drastically and sometimes quite often and then it becomes a challenge trying to keep up with the changes. My daughter went from having a lovely regular sleeping pattern to hitting two and totally not sleeping at all. I had to stop the naps in the daytime because it was just not working and it took me over 6 months to get her into another routine. Its hard, but hang in there because it does sort itself out!
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
6 months! Wow! That's pretty long to adjust to a new routine. I'm getting her to nap earlier now and wake up by 3-4pm so that she will have ample time to play and get tired again by 8-9pm. I think it's working. There will be a time when I have to accept that she would not need a nap anymore. Sigh! I won't know what to do then. Adjust again, I guess. Thank you for your response!
• United States
2 Jan 09
well ill honestly say that I don't know much about little kids but I have four young nephews and one of them used to have weird sleeping patterns but that was only due to my sister not really sticking to a routine for him. My cousin and aunt however had problems with their sleep patterns and weight. Does your daughters weight go up or down or both alot? Because my relatives have thyroid problems and that affects the sleep pattern often ( it also made my cousin very cranky when she was growing up). I hope that was a little help to you and that you find your answers. Good luck!
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
You are right. I usually have a routine for her, but it changes as she grows. And I thought that I have to stick to her routine, but I think it's time for a change. She needs to be put on a routine set by me now. I think she is doing better. She is sleeping a little after nine, latest 10pm now. It used to be after 10.30pm, leaving me exhausted and not able to keep up with my writing. Thank you for your response!
@djonghs (560)
• Indonesia
3 Jan 09
I have the same situation here, my daughter is 4 now. Up until 11pm she is still in her high spirit, singing and running around. It is hard to get her to sleep, I must accompany her to sleep if I want her to sleep early. I believe this condition happened due to the increasing of her brain activity, recognizing more thing to play with. BR.b
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
I hope my daughter does not go to such extent to sleep so late. Sometimes if we encourage it, she will not want to sleep at all. There are so many things to play with I agree. BUt I still believe that they should get in bed by 9pm. I hope my daughter will do that even when she gets older. I know her sleep patterns might change later on.
@Polly289 (269)
• New Zealand
2 Jan 09
All children have their own sleep pattern but I have to admit, it is very late for her to be up. Keeping her active during the day, might help. Seems to me she's a light sleeper. When she sleeps during the day do you go about your normal routine ie vacuum cleaning and do other noise related things? If she gets used to hearing noise while asleep she will eventually get used to it and be less inclined to wake up at the slightest sound. Just had a thought, you do have her teen years to look forward to when she will probably sleep the day away. Yeehah. Anyway, luck with that. Have a Happy New Year!!!
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
I do try to keep it quiet when she naps now and make more noises when it's about 2hours after she drops of to sleep, so that she'd be inclined to get up. So far it is working. She is sleeping after nine and not later than ten. Will try to imporve the situation slowly. Yup! I guess when she's in her teens, she won't wake up if it's not noon when it's not a school day. Looking forward to that! LOL! Thank you for your response!
• China
3 Jan 09
I think little children's sleep pattern is easy to change.But most children need enough sleep everyday.As it as a premise,i suggest you change your sleep pattern to follow her.Maybe it is the only way.But it will soon end.Everything will be OK,the child will grow up very soon.
• Singapore
8 Jan 09
I have been following her sleep pattern and this seems to be the result. As such, I will try to set the pattern for her now. I have made here nap earlier and shorter, and that seems to work. By nine, she is almost ready t go to sleep. Although, she may still want to play, but I switch off the lights to tell her that it's sleep time. It's much better now. And less cranky when she wants to go to bed at night.
• India
2 Jan 09
sleeping late nights amy cause severe health problems.