Does the state have the right to intervene to save this child ?

@ronnyb (6113)
Jamaica
May 21, 2009 12:05pm CST
A friend of mine was telling me that a lady refused to have her son go through chemotherapy for a life threatening cancer that her son has on religious reasons. The prognosis is that the child has an over ninety percent chance of survival if treated immediately however she is claiming that she prefers to try more alternative natural sources first and then “maybe” then if these doesn’t work then Chemo treatment .According to my friend the state is thinking of intervening on behalf of the child. Have you heard of this situation ? and who do you think has more rights to child ,the mother who bore the child and carried it for nine months or the state ?.Do you think the state would be violating the mothers right to exercise her religious beliefs .In addition ,isn’t she herself imposing her beliefs on her child .Please submit your views and thanks in advance
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12 responses
@cicisnana (772)
• United States
21 May 09
First off, how old is this child? Second, if the prognosis is over 90% survival rate for the treatment, why is the mother not jumping at it. Cancer is a scary thing. My own son had cancer at 17. He went through the chemo and radiation and is 100% better now. It saved his life. God saved his life. I don't understand the religious aspect of it. It's all part of God's plan, regardless. If the treatment works, it is God's plan, if it doesn't, sadly enough, it's still God's plan. I do think the government has the right to step in for the welfare of the child.
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@anniefannie (1737)
• United States
21 May 09
i heard last night on the neews the mother left and took her son and no one know where they are unless they have found her today.i think she is wrong by not giving him the chemo.but no i don't think the state should make her. but she is letting him die so i don't know.they would take the child awway for something less then what she is doing.so maybe they should take him from her.
@ronnyb (6113)
• Jamaica
22 May 09
Ok I sure hope they find her.I think the state should intervene ,once it is a life threatening situation like this ,then i tehy have to for the childs sake.Granted I am never quick to sanction state intervention but this is an extenuating circumstance.Thank you for your response
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
31 May 09
i think they should if he has a good chance to live longer. i know some people say it's agansit the faith and want to have faith in god to save him. but my thing is god was the one who gave us doctors and treatments to save him from dying of cancer.
• United States
22 May 09
I havnet heard about this story...But in my opinion i do think the state has a right to interven on this sort of thing. When it comes to a life threating matter to your own child you want the best for them weather or not its against your religious beliefs or not you should never make the child suffer because your to stubborn to go with what you know is the right thing to do. A lot of people have religious beliefs but i can also bet that when it comes to there child(ren) they will do what they know is the right thing to do and the one thing that will help these kids in questions before they go with what they want to beleive is right. If this mother didnt want the child to go to chemo then she shouldnt have took him to the doctor either. I personally think the state should take this innocent child away from the mother so this child actually has a Chance to live instead of dieing and put 6 feet under.
• India
31 May 09
Hello my friend ronnyb Ji, I think I have already responded to similar discussion, where I clearly remember if state gives 100% assurence in writing that by their treatment, child will live long, mother should opt for that, if not, mother should be allowed to go her own way to treat her son.May god bless YOu and have graet time.
@geniustiger (1694)
• Philippines
31 May 09
I think not because first of all the parents is the great custody and have the right for it to agree and disagree the offer for the good and recovery of the child. I dont hear it in my country unless if its child abused but if not no worries. Here the state has no right for it if the parents are there with him.They are the vital people to give consent for the goodness of their child.
@Justme2007 (1848)
• United States
22 May 09
Well if this boy has Hodkins lyphoma then he has a 50-50 chance if they have caught it in time. Me I say its his life and if he doesn't want chemo then let him be! The State is picking a fight that is not theres everyone talks about we are free in America but yet someone is always stepping in to make us do something we don't want to do, so when do I get my choices? This child also said "He didn't want chemo" does he not have rights? See if you don't know how it feels to have chemo and radiation and what is the out come how can you choose something for someone? My daughter had Hodkins Lyphoma and I sat in the Hospital for 5 months while she had chemo radiation MRIs body scans a tube sticking out her chest had to give her shots every day so she could fight off infection and a host of doctors appointments. She will forever have to be tested to make sure the Cancer doesn't come back. So no one is wrong its just a choice some of us make because thats what we can do.
• United States
22 May 09
I started a post about the same thing and yet yours for better than mine. I think this case will set up a huge fight between church and state in a way. Here in the States we have the right to practice our religion but we can't harm anyone While practicing our religion.I keep thinking the doctors dropped the ball. They should have had her spiritual leader explain that the use of chemo is okay.Instead the mom and son were on the run the last time i heard anything.Now if the state rakes the kid away from his parents , the one thing you really need, support of your family , will not be there.
@walijo2008 (4644)
• United States
21 May 09
Well if the state believes that the child is in danger, and needs help but the parent isn't willing to get help for the child, they will come in and do something if they have to, they have the courts on their side, they would consider it as being neglectful to the child, even if it was for religious reasons because if the child has a 90 percent chance of recovering if it gets treated properly, the state will do what they can to get the child help, even if the parent doesn't want to. In a way I do think the state is violating the mother's right to exercise her religious beliefs, but as I said, when it comes to children, they will do what they think needs to be done, thats how it is in our state, children are one of the number one priorities. I do believe that she is imposing her beliefs on her child, just because she believes that way doesn't mean the child would.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
22 May 09
hi ronnyb, that is really a terrible situation. i would really hate to see the child not get the medical attention that he needs. i can't understand any mother not wanting to get her child the help he needs altho i thinl chemo is a horrible thing to have to go through. i have seen so many frieds & family go through it & then still not make it. i have always said i wouldn't go through the treatments myself if they told me i had cancer. i don't know what i'd do if one of my children was diagnosed w/it. it sure would be an awful decision to make. as for the state intervening i would have a hard dealing w/that to. i hope the boy gets better. maybe god will give him a miracle & noone will have to make that decision. i hope & ptay that he does. have a good weekend.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
22 May 09
This kind of situation angers me very much. I respect all religions but to endanger a life? All religious people believe in some form of Higher Power and it is so sad that some cannot see that it is this very Power that has made it possible to have a life saving chance, in this case being chemo therapy. Yes I think the State should intervene, save the boy's life and deal with the parents later. I thought that in all constitutions child protection was paramount!
@yoyozhou (356)
• China
22 May 09
In my point of veiw, the state have the right to inervene to save this child. I think the child's life is the most important . Cancer is a kind of big sickness.The child can not be delayed to treat. I don't know any religion. And I don't care any religion.I just think the child's life is more important and should be treated in the scientific way.