Let's Just Look The Other Way, Maybe It Will Go Away

United States
May 24, 2009 12:08pm CST
I have known for a long time that our mental health care system is screwed up, but this week really brought it home, on a very personal level. My 24 year old daughter has been saying that there is something wrong with her for a couple of months. She has had psych evaluations done by I don't know how many doctors over those couple of months. Each of them have told her, You are fine, you are still functioning. You go to school, you hold down a job, you pay your bills, there is nothing wrong with you. Go home. Now, you would think that a psychiatrist would be the last person to assume just because something looks "normal" on the outside, that there isn't something festering under the surface, wouldn't you? Tuesday night, my daughter went completely berserk, and tore her apartment apart,leaving her boyfriend wondering what the hell got into her. Then, she packed up her stuff and came to my house. Wednesday, her best friend went to her room to tell her she was leaving and she would talk to her later. Suddenly I see the friend rushing into the kitchen, where I was, with a look of terror on her face. My heart fell to the pit of my stomach. She said, You have to get her to the hospital, like NOW, she's overdosed! I don't think I even thought, I just reacted. We got her into the car, and headed for the hospital. It is only about a 5 minute drive from my house to the hospital, but I have to tell you, that 5 minutes was the same as hours at that point. On the way, my daughter kept saying, Mommy, I am sorry, I don't REALLY want to die, I just want somebody to help me. Mom! PLEASE don't let me die! Once we got her admitted, which was very quickly when I told them we had an overdose, I decided that she was not going to leave the hospital without someone giving her some information on where she could go for help. I expressed my anger over the whole situation to a nurse. She was very understanding, wrote up a report and put it into my daughter's chart. Then, she took the time to call a social worker and set up a time for her to come to the hospital and talk to B. Before her release, the social worker came in, talked to her, without lecturing her, gave her a few pages of resources, doctors who would see her on an outpatient basis, places that would help her financially, etc. And, told her that she could call her anytime she felt like she was losing. I asked the social worker, Why do people like my daughter have to go to these extremes to get the professionals in this field to pay attention? Her answer was, Most of them are in it for the money, not to actually help. I expressed my anger over this. She gave me a list of organizations that are advocates for mental health reform, etc. I don't really have a question for you to answer here, I am just letting off some steam here, I think. It just p1sses me off that those who take an oath to help people with mental problems, turn them away because there is nothing on the outside to indicate that they are screaming bloody murder on the inside, and because they can't afford to pay that doctor 10's of thousands of dollars for help.
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12 responses
• United States
24 May 09
oh! Bo! *tight hugs* I am so glad that she is okay.. though I know she is far from okay too.. but she is still with you.. I pray that she gets the help she is screaming for.. a lot of people don't. after being told they are okay, they do exactly what she did. my love, thoughts and prayers are with you :)
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• United States
24 May 09
Thank you, Stormy*S* I truly appreciate the support and thoughts and prayers that my friends here have sent us.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
24 May 09
It's pretty disgusting that it's come to something like this, just because of so called "professionals" indifferences. I've always been amazed how more in touch with people some social workers can be compared to their supposedly superior counterparts in Doctors and Pyschiatrists etc. This isn't the case across the board of course, but even from my own experiences I've often found counselors and social workers etc to be far more compassionate in many instances. The question here is WHY are Doctors etc acting this way? Is it because they're so used to others trying to cheat the system? Is it because they just don't care anymore? "Professionals" that act this way need to be held accountable, that's for sure! What I also find to be most disappointing is this - "Each of them have told her, You are fine, you are still functioning. You go to school, you hold down a job, you pay your bills, there is nothing wrong with you. Go home." Pyschiatrists of all people shouldn't be judging a person's mindset or ability to cope based on external factorings like these! Unbelievable. Thank goodness your Daughter's friend went to her room when she did. And thank goodness your Daughter was immediately repentant rather than defiant. How horrifying that she had to resort to such an act just to get deserved attention that she should have been given in the first place. Blessings to all of you Diddly.
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• United States
24 May 09
You know, James, if her friend had not been here, I probably would not have checked on her for an hour or so. I am beyond grateful that she and my nephew had stopped by that day. And, what you said about this not being the case across the board, I have to agree. The people we dealt with in the hospital were more sympathetic, empathetic and helpful than any of the doctors she had already tried to get help from. Each of the nurses she had, and both the doctors talked with her and actually listened to her when she talked. Thank you for being there, James*S*
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• Canada
24 May 09
I'm thoroughly disgusted! I mean, really DISGUSTED! My motto is, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease", so the more you kick and scream and yell, the more attention you get. So, if you need something badly, that seems to be the only way to ensure you get it. Don't leave any stone unturned. Persist, do not give up. I believe that if you are tireless, and are persistent, that you will be able to get her the help she desperately needs. Blessings.
• United States
24 May 09
Thank you*S* That is all I can say right now. I don't know what else to say.
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• Canada
24 May 09
Give her a BIG HUG from all of us. Tell her she is loved from Cairo to Canada and everywhere in between. I'll light a candle for her and focus happy thoughts towards you both to help get you through this difficult time. Blessings BO!
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
24 May 09
I'm glad your daughter is okay for now and that she's with you but you're going to have to be her advocate because she can't be. Something changed a couple of months ago and, even if you have to b*tch, scream, nag and beg, your daughter needs a complete physical and mental evaluation. Unless she has suffered some kind of traumatic event there could be any number of physical reasons for her current problems. Get and stay in contact with the resources the nurse gave to your daughter and stay on them until she gets the help she needs and deserves. I wish both of you the best of luck.
• United States
24 May 09
*S* Thank you. I don't intend to let this slide. I fully intend to be the squeaky wheel on this issue, from now on.
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• United States
24 May 09
Well first of all i am she is ok.You are right these so called head doctors are all about money and that makes me mad as he ll,they sit there and listen ask stupid question well tell me how you my god maybe you cant or you don't know,i have had my share o dealing with this people.I have daughter who some serious metal problems so i feel.But don't looking because there is one some where who can help her,it could be a number of things my daughter was found to be bipolar,i am the one who told the Dr what was wrong. He says to me how did you do that i just glared at him.Well then he got interested and stared testing her and i was right,we had a few different kinds of meds and now she is on one and if you did no,you would think she is normal but she has to take it to be normal.I wish you the best of luck.if there is any thing i can help you with please let me know.
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• United States
24 May 09
*S* Thank you for your response. I have learned a lot about being persistent this past week. I don't intend to stop fighting this thing. Not just for my daughter, but for others like her.
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• United States
24 May 09
i kinda had the same problem when i was a kid my mom took me to the hospital because i had rope burns on the neck i had razorblade marks and cuts all over my body when we got to the hospital the drs aked me why i did it and i told them i wanted to die then they went and talked to me mom and told her i was normal that i would grow out of it that was when i was 9 until i was 16 and when i became a adult i didnt think anything of it thn i had 4 children one has adhd,odd and bipolar along with a few others then all my old feeling started to come back so i talked to me dr and they found out i have bipolar,depression and a couple other things it took them that long to figure out why i was feeling this way , i knew something was wrong with my oldest son when he was just 2 so i took him to the drs they tested him and thats when they found out he has adhd,and odd then years later when he was put in the hospital for the first time for wanting to kill himself they did some tests and found out he also had bipolar which did not suprise me because i told them that years before then they gave him some meds which didnt help much they had to change them a lot then last year he was put back into the hospital because he was banging his head off the wall saying he keeps hearing voices and seeing people that are not there after a few days they found out it was the one med he was on was making that happen to him, my oldest son just turned 11 on the 15th of may and he has been through a lot and will continue to go through a lot more. i just wish things can be found when they are first talked about not wait until thinks get really bad.
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• United States
24 May 09
Thank you for your response. I hope that you, and your son keep fighting. I have learned so much about being persistent this week. I don't intend to give up until my daughter is back to the great person that all of us know she is, and something is done about this situation as a whole. Not just for my daughter, but all the others out there who feel they must go to such extreme measures for help.
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@makingpots (11915)
• United States
26 May 09
Oh, bo, I have no words but have huge hugs for you, love. ((((((((((bo))))))))))!! Feeling utterly frustrated with you on this one.
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• United States
26 May 09
*S* Thanks, Pots. I appreciate that, more than you know.
• United States
25 May 09
Sounds like when I was a young teen, I was so sick of trying to appear normal because it made my family comfortable. One day i just flipped like your daughter and sliced up my arms with razor blades and came out of the bathroom and scared the living daylights out of my father but thats what it felt like carrying those feelings around inside. Unfortunately, for years I was treated for depression but was bipolar and didn't find out THAT was the problem until I was 27. Keep this in mind if your daughter is young and many doctors are afraid to treat young kids because the risk of misdiagnoses is so high and I guess they figure she can wait til she's older to be treated when its easier for them to know whats wrong. The science of mental health in teenagers and children is SOO lacking its incredible.
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• United States
25 May 09
well then you need to find a psychiatrist who is experienced in diagnosing this condition and outpatients are a good start, they will know where to send you. Im suprised there are so many docs who look over manic depression but for me I think it has characteristics of ocd, adhd, and of course depression. Even on medication I go through bouts of depression but unlike before it doesn't last for weeks and only 4-5 days and I just take it easy. Its hardest for my bf because he sees it as not making progress (still thinks he will 'fix' me) but Im just thankful I am not as bad as when I first started. I see it as progress in that way because I have been on meds for 2 years and have never had a relapse as bad as before I started my meds.
• United States
25 May 09
I had not really thought about her being bipolar until now, I guess. But, several responses mention this. Perhaps this is something we should look into. My daughter is 24, btw.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Jun 09
Wow, I'm sorry I missed this. Clearly my rotten system needs some work. But how scary. I'm so glad you got her there on time and I hope she gets the treatment she needs asap. But it really makes you wonder how many people DIDN'T get there in time. How many people didn't have somebody who cared who would make sure she got treatment, etc. Our whole health care system is broken, not just mental health. One of the primary functions of a government is to take care of its weaker citizens and this is one area where the US government is failing miserable. Anyway, my thoughts are with you and your daughter.
• Lubbock, Texas
25 May 09
I just want to pop in here and say a great big THANK YOU to all of Bo's friends for the support you've shown her. Of course I support her, she's my daughter, what else would I do. But it is so good to know she has so many friends who have been through something similar and are willing to share and show support. It always lessens the load when there's someone there to share it with.
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• United States
25 May 09
• United States
26 May 09
I have a friend who had to deal with the system. She always said it is like lawyers, dentists, medical doctors, etc. If you want the best and brightest you have to get out of the hospital, government, etc. and find a private practitioner who has a good reputation. It is tough to fight through the economics to be sure that you are not paying for nothing. Basically, it is not always about the money. The money is part of it, but that is just talented people believing that they should be well compensated. There are ones that care and they care so much they cannot live with the limitations of the system. So my advice is use the internet and find someone to give you a reference to someone outside of the system and you will hopefully have better luck. Bless you in this tough time.
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• Australia
25 May 09
it isnt really the doctors fault because the requirements to fix people cost money it isnt free to transport all the requirements to hospitals and if a hospital cant afford it then itll just be sent to a different hospital
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• Lubbock, Texas
25 May 09
I agree with you on that, but for a psychiatrist to tell her she's fine because she's functioning is unforgivable.
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• United States
25 May 09
I agree with you, mishikawa, but I also agree with beaddoodler. A psychiatrist of all people should know that things are not always what they seem when dealing with this sort of thing.