VAT tax coming to America?

United States
June 1, 2009 12:33am CST
We all know the economy is spinning around the drain, but how bad is it? Well, Washington Policy Makers are looking at a new tax called a VAT tax, short for "value-added tax". It is a whopper! * http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/26/AR2009052602909_pf.html * On top of this, we could, because of excessive lending, be looking at 1970's style inflation. * http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30938110/ * All of the above is highly detrimental to the poor.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I don't even need to read the articles (but I will after I post) to know that this is bad news. I do not want to turn this into a slight against the Obama administration in any way, but I have to say, things are getting ridiculous under his leadership in terms of what's said and what's done. Over half of America wholeheartedly believed that they elected a man into office who was going to give relief to the poor. Now, they (most, at least) never took the time to do the math and figure that the top 5% of Americans CANNOT POSSIBLY repay trillions of dollars. But, nevertheless, they stuck by him, defended him, and still do defend him, saying that "the poor are not going to be taxed." Well, what's inflation? What's higher prices of items? What's a low-value dollar? Answer to all three: Horrific news for the regular, hard-working and poor people of America. No matter what, the average Joe in America cannot win for losing. Even presidents elected under the cloak of help and hope will find ways to stick it to the little man for the sake of government expansion. "You're poor! You need government in your lives." Yes, yes, we really do! Come save us! Wait... now we're even poorer! "That just means you need MORE government! We'll really help this time!" Yes, yes, we really do need more government this time. Come save us! Umm... we're still poor! "Then you need MORE government!" And so on and so on... The only defense of this behavior tends to be, "Look at Bush! He was worse!" And this is just laughable. It seems to be a refusal to face facts. Here are the facts: The past is past, the future is now. Get ready for more penny pinching while politicians fly the friendly skies in their jets, ride around in their limos, and eat like kings on our dime. Come election time, however, they'll all find a way to blame someone else and make themselves look like the saviors. It's disgraceful -- even more so that people buy into it. Give the country back to the people, please. :-)
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• United States
2 Jun 09
I am thinking that we don't know just how bad the mess we are in is. * I will not defend Obama. I will not defend Bush. I voted for neither, as I voted for another. I do think that this problem is bigger than the United States.
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@GardenGerty (157674)
• United States
2 Jun 09
Many of the things in our economy are tearing the poor down. We all need to get as self sufficient as possible, and pay down debt and stretch our dollars. Unfortunately some poverty is generational. No one in the family has ever been anything but poor, no one is teaching the poor how to be anything but poor, and we just keep on pushing them down.
• United States
2 Jun 09
On that I agree with you. There is a problem of generational poverty. * Then there is the disabled, through no fault of their own, who did everything they were 'supposed' to do by the 'script' yet still wound up on SSD or some other State or Federal program because of illness or infirmary. War Vets of current or past wars by the bus load often fall under this category. Then there is the elderly who lost husbands or wives, children, what have you who wake up and discover some corporation snatched off with their retirement. These two groups can't fend for themselves.
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@GardenGerty (157674)
• United States
3 Jun 09
None of them can really fend for themselves. As a society we are only as good as the way we care for the weak and vulnerable.
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• United States
3 Jun 09
I am afraid I have to agree with you there. I would not want to be in a very large city when the wave of stinky hits the fan either...
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@amylan (187)
• France
3 Jun 09
Just a little bit surprised that VAT has not been introduced into United States. In fact this type of tax is quite common in other countries, whether developped or developping ones, and here in France we pay a VAT up to 19.6%.Crazy? Maybe. I suppose the crucial problem here is what state's gonna to do with the tax you paid. To mprove the socail welfare, to fix your broken health insurance system or just to bailout those giant 'too big to fail' corporations. In the end of last years all the people were expecting Obama's bailout plans to save U.S. out of the recession but seldom just asked the question how would he manage to finance them. Now the tax is his solution.
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• United States
5 Jun 09
Thing is, if the tax prices every thing beyond everyone's reach, it will kill any 'green shoots' sprouting in this economy as if spraying them with Ready Round Up!
@amylan (187)
• France
5 Jun 09
Here The point is that Obama doesn't account on enlarging consumption on internal market to drag the whole economy up. His stimulating package includes a concrete plan to spur on investment and retailings? Sure not. You're right what he plans will curb the internal demands and further damage the economy. But I just wonder didn't more 'grassroots' people rush to vote for him while he was going to tax on richer class? Now this is little bit sarcastic.