Man who tried to help some kids beaten to death

@pillusch (1149)
Mexico
September 22, 2009 3:56pm CST
This is a real sad story, and scary. It happened a couple of days ago in München , Germany. This 50 year old passenger on a subway saw as two thugs, 17 and 18 years old, hussled some children and tried to steal their money. He interferred, preventing the robbery, and he left the subway at the next station. The thugs got out with him and beat him to death. The worst part is that there were other people who saw the incident, but who opted for turning away and walked away as quickly as possible. The guy is now a heroe in Germany, while those other witnesses will probably be prosecuted for NOT helping him. And a lot of people will think twice now before they act as courageously as this man did. I honestly don't know whether I would have the balls to help in a situation like that, it's really difficult to say while I´m sitting safely at home, banging away at my keyboard. I just pray to God that I would find the courage to help.
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10 responses
• United States
23 Sep 09
It is sad that as a society our lack of conern for others has gone this extreme. I used to waitress and once saw a lady's husband punch her in the stomach while she was obviously pregnant, she could have had her baby at any moment and he punched her. Not only that but began to belittle her and call her all sorts of names that should never be projected at anyone much less a woman having your child. As he did this in a crowded restaurant NOBODY said anything to him just let him continue to be abusive. Finally I went and got the manager and the man was furious and threatened to sue me for interfering in his family buisness. The lady was so upset that she actually went into labor right there in the restaurant, while she was moaning in pain he was yelling at her and threating to kill her for making him mad. The manger was asking him to be quiet and I finally called the cops, and an ambulance. He was taken out in handcuffs, she on a gurney.What was her offense? She ordered him a diet coke, he wanted a diet coke with lemon. Seriously he beat her up over a drink " which by the way the restaurant didnt serve" . The happy ending was that she filed charges and divorced the guy. She ended up being the daughter of another restaurant owner in town who was affiliated with us, so we got the juicy details.
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@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
24 Sep 09
Weird and brave story, thanks for sharing.
@kykidd (6819)
• United States
23 Sep 09
I'm not sure what I would have done. Maybe taken out my phone or camera, if I had it handy, and started taking pictures. At least this way there would be proof and pictures of who did it. Then, I am sure, at least in the United States, I would have called 911. I wonder if they have something similar to 911 in other countries. Would it be possible to reach the police or some kind of emergency system if you didn't have the phone number memorized. If I could get other people to help, I would have definitely tried to hit those people in the back while they were beating up the guy who opted to help the children. He is a brave man, and should definitely be thought of as a hero!
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@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
23 Sep 09
Yes, in Germany there is, it's 112 for fire and 110 for other emergencies. Thanks for sharing.
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Sep 09
I don't know if I would have the guts (or the strength) to directly help him either, but I would at least do something like call for police. Your English is better than my German. Where did you learn it? My current fun German thing to do is translate some old letters that belonged to my great-grandfather (1922 and 1923, so written in the old script). Very interesting stuff...
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@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
24 Sep 09
I spent a couple of years in England, beautiful country, by the way. Thanks for responding.
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
24 Sep 09
Yes, very beautiful country! I spent a year in Germany myself, but got around to England and a lot of other places while I was there.
• Pamplona, Spain
22 Sep 09
Hi pillusch, Must be difficult not to know whether to intervene. A man in Spain went to a womans help because her boyfriend threw her across the floor of a Hotel. He got beaten up for trying to save her and landed in Hospital. Was in coma for weeks. He is a University Professor and has been back in Hospital again last week as he sustained severe injury trauma in varous parts of the body. Did the woman thank him. Far from it she said he should not have intervened and should have minded his own business. The helper became the victim and the so called victim almost a Tv star but thank goodness not quite noone has heard of her since thank God for small mercies.
@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
22 Sep 09
What a callous woman! Thanks for responding.
• Pamplona, Spain
23 Sep 09
hi pillusch, I was trying to tell you before but I was not logged in lol so all that writing for nothing. Callous is not the word I would use. The so called woman victim has been parading herself around the Tv. Channels to the tune of fifty to sixty thousand euros altogether so they say. I have no proof of that only that she is not being contracted by anyone now to go and tell her silly tales of how the rescuer has turned her life into misery everyone lets all cry aahh shame is´nt it I don´t think. She has never thanked the man for trying to rescue her and this rescuer is back in Hospital again with problems of the sustained traumatic injuries he received from her Boyfriend. Tne rescuer is often wheelchairbound because of the injuries now. But at least that ungrateful woman is not being allowed to parade herself around the Television.
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• Philippines
23 Sep 09
That is really a sad story. You help others and when it is your turn -- you needed help others will turn their back on you. Yes, it is really scary to witness something like that. And even I dont know what I will do in cases like that. I know in my heart I really would want to help, but I dont know If I will have courage to do so. I might also run, but call for help. I don't know if it will be late but at least I will do something.
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@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
24 Sep 09
Difficult question, isn't it? Thanks for responding.
• Malaysia
23 Sep 09
Yes, sometimes we just have the courage when we see a wrong done. Bully kids for money can get one very unnerved and you come out swinging like a hero. Poor thing he had beaten up as well. Where were the subway authorities and security people? Was their CCTV working to help apprehend the crooks? Yes, he was a hero. Hopefully he recovers soon.
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@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
24 Sep 09
Thanks for responding. The sad thing is, more security people can never substitute a man´s courage.
@taztheone (1726)
• India
23 Sep 09
It's always great to know about such people who show the willingness to help those who are in need & I would have always went to help someone if if it's at the cost of my life because any which ways we will die one & die according to our destiny but helping others is the best thing we could do while we are alive. Happy Lotting
@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
23 Sep 09
I wish I could say that, but I can't. I would see how I'd react if ever I'm in a situation like that. Thanks for sharing.
• Indonesia
23 Sep 09
That's really a dilemma, help or not to help. I don't have the answer and I can't imagine in that situation what would I do...One thing is, thinking about your own safety isn't a sin, are you capable to fight against two big guys for example, don't do anything that won't help much but adding more victim ( yourself ). But it doesn't mean we do nothing at all, at least you can call the police or gather other guys for help. Yes, I wish I am superman or spider man anyhow.
@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
24 Sep 09
So do I, thanks for responding.
• India
24 Sep 09
you are welcome....
@prinzcy (5057)
• Malaysia
24 Sep 09
He really die as a hero. I don't know whether I'll be able to help in such situation. I probably freeze with shock if I saw someone being rob or beat like that. Did anyone call the police? Shouldn't someone do that in such situation? The least I can help is record with camera and call the cop. With my strength I can't help much.
@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
24 Sep 09
Not that I know off, thanks for sharing.
@kutedarsu (254)
• India
23 Sep 09
If there were at least 4 or 5 people, they could have easily made the thugs run away.If not fighting with the thugs face to face, the best thing will be to call up the police. I wonder why no one ever did that.
@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
24 Sep 09
That's a good question, thanks for responding.