Do you think some people just don't know with money?

@lorelai (1558)
Italy
December 18, 2009 5:48pm CST
I have this really good friend, she is a very nice person and a good friend, but she just doesn't know her way with money. She is always broke, she comes to ask me for some money just a few days after she got her paycheck, and I know for sure that she doesn't ask me only but her other friends too, so when the new paycheck comes she gives money back to all of her friends and she is broke again. The fact is that my paycheck is just half of what she gets but she is the one who is always broke. We are both alone and pay only for our own bills, neither of us has children or husband and we both pay the same money for the apartment as we live in the same building and have the same apartments. But my friends likes eating at the restaurants, going to the bars, she never thinks about the future, buys very expensive products, never looks for discounts. The electricity company didn't send her the bill for the last six months as she moved to my building from another place and they were sending her bills to the old place address but she never once called them and asked them about the bills. She started heating the house when it was still rather hot and was heating with her windows opened and she never put a cent a side for the electricity in the 6 months she wasn't getting any bills although I was advising her to do it. Now she got the bill for about 400E ($600) just for the electricity and she came to me to complain about it. She was broke and had no money to pay for it. The electricity company called her and told her they would cut her electricity if she hadn't paid in 2 weeks time, but she didn't. In the mean time she got another bill for another 50E and she didn't pay those first ones. Then they gave her another 3 days to pay all the bills but she didn't want to hear about it. She told them that her paycheck come on the 1th in the month and that she couldn't pay before that. I know I can not help her because she is who she is and she will never change but I am sorry to see her in trouble all the time and to see her broke all the time because she wishes to travel, to go for a vacation and similar stuff but she never finds money for that because she waists it on wrong stuff. I am sorry to see her doesn't get the stuff she wants because she keeps wasting money on the stuff she doesn't need. For example, here where I live you can pay for car insurance of 3 months, 6 months, 1 year or 2 years. The 3 months cost 75% of what 6months cost, and if you pay for the whole year you get 3 months for free, and in 2 years policy you get about 9 months for free. But she never pays more than just 3 months although she needs her car for the whole year which actually means that in a year she pays 4 times for the policy of 3 months and if she paid for the whole year she would have gotten 3 months for free and saved the cost of 1 policy for 3 months. But she doesn't think that way because she thinks that it is better to pay $100 4 times per year than $300 at once for the whole year. There are two supermarkets each about 50m from our building and we were coming back from a walk and she needed something. We went to the first shop and what she needed cost 4E there. I know that the very same thing was on discount and cost 2,50E at the other discount but when I told her to go to the other discount she said she didn't have time to go to there now, although it would have taken only 2 minutes of her time. I know that 1,50E is not much, it is little bit more than $2 but I strongly believe that one should save on small stuff, because if you save $2 each day at the end of the month you will have $60 you weren't counting with. What do you think about all this? Do you have friends who make quite a lot of money but are always broke? Have you ever tried to help them? How? It makes me sad to see her wish for stuff she thinks she can't afford just because she isn't using her money wisely.
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6 responses
@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
20 Dec 09
Yep it's common. People who make more - spend more. It's like some people get a check and it is burning in their hands and they can't wait to spend it all. I do not have any friends that make a lot of money, but I can think of a few people who spent every dime they got the second they got it. A lot of times it was on things they didn't NEED. I knew a girl who would constantly say "I NEED a new couch as soon as I get my next paycheck." I'd say "what's wrong with your couch?" and she'd say "We painted the walls and now it doesn't match". Oh my! She didn't really NEED a new couch, her current one was fine. It was just the wrong color :-D Silly! People mix up the word NEED and WANT all the time. I will never lend people money who spend it un-wisely. It doesn't make me sad when they can't have stuff they want because I see how much stuff they buy that they don't need. My husband and I feel guilty if we splurge too much on goodies and we'll cut back for a few months to get rid of the guilt :) But the type of people you are talking about don't ever seem to feel guilty about spending the money. About the only thing you can do is try to help her figure out a budget - but it will only work if she's willing to accept help. Otherwise you probably can't do much but ignore her complaints.
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@lorelai (1558)
• Italy
28 Dec 09
Thanks for your response. I agree with you; there's a big difference between needing something and wanting something but some people just can't say NO to themselves and when they want something they have to have it. I am not like that so I don't understand it. I am more like you, when I spend money on stuff I feel I didn't have to I feel guilty so I try to cut back on some other stuff to balance the money I have. I would really like to help my friend but I also think that she might get mad with me if I proposed to help her calculate the budget. I find this advice of your great and I really think that would be the only way I could help her but I don't know how to tell her that without make her feel offended.
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@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
28 Dec 09
Thanks for the best response :) So basically if you don't feel comfortable enough to help her budget, then I guess all you can do is ignore the comments. Maybe, one day, she'll ask you for help or ask you how you manage your money. Sounds like you know how to keep things under control. Too bad many people don't know how to do that!
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@lorelai (1558)
• Italy
5 Jan 10
You are more than welcome vivasuzi, thank you for your great advices.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
19 Dec 09
Hello Lorelie Your Friend will never learn because there are always People there to lend her the money and as long as they are there lending she will carry on living like that It is not good that she is refusing to alter things and she will end up with no electricity as she is not even attempting to pay any of it, she know that when it is cut, all her Friends will get the money together to pay the Electric The only way you can help her to realize is by not lending her money I really hope that your Friend will learn how to deal with money
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
19 Dec 09
Lorelai, your Sister is right there I was not going to be that blunt lol but yes it is true as one Day she will be so deep in it that she can't pay it back
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@lorelai (1558)
• Italy
19 Dec 09
Thanks a lot for your response, I agree, my sister told me never to lend her money again because sooner or later she'll stop returning the money.
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
4 Jan 10
what ever you do, dont bail her out because what she needs is to learn how to manage money. this is something they need to teach in school starting at an early age.
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@lorelai (1558)
• Italy
5 Jan 10
I think that too but sometimes the most drastic solution is the best one.
@dodo19 (47082)
• Beaconsfield, Quebec
19 Dec 09
It is true that some people don't really know how to deal with their money. Some know how to budget, while others don't really know how to do it or can't do it for whatever reason. It's sad and unfortunate, but it's the way it is sometimes. I know a few people in my family are having some financial difficult, but it's really not because they want to. It just happened. My husband and I do try to help, when we can, because we're close to them and we know that they would help if and when they could. I wouldn't really say that they're broke, but they're definitely not in a good financial position. It really makes me sad.
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@lorelai (1558)
• Italy
19 Dec 09
I understand you and agree with you, such things make me sad too.
@sublime03 (2339)
• Philippines
19 Dec 09
There are just some people who really does not have any idea how to save money for a rainy day. Some people will just live at the very moment where they will just use up all there money just in time to get their next set of funds. It is unlikely for a single person to save up unless they are intending to buy something very expensive.
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@lorelai (1558)
• Italy
19 Dec 09
You are right, it is very unlikely for a single person to save if they don't have something expensive to buy. But ma friend bought something expensive, she bought a car. She knew she would buy a car for 6 months before she actually bought it but she never put a side single cent. Then she asked her friend for some money and he told her to return the money when she has it. For her it meant when she won the lottery, but the man actually meant, in a few months. Than last month, 8 months after she never returned a cent to him he got mad and asked for the whole amount back. She got 2 paychecks this month because that's how it works in Italy in December, but she still took a loan of 5000E although the car cost 4000E and I saw that what remained on her bank account was 47E and it was a few days after she got both of her paychecks. I understand that someone can be in debts if they buy something big but she bought the car and she was already in debt. I really can't understand that.
@l33tgirl (288)
• New Zealand
20 Dec 09
I used to be like this - well not quite as bad but I earned a lot yet never had any money. Spent it all almost the same day I got paid. I think a lot of it was my parents were very easy on me, never really gave me an allowance, just gave me money whenever I needed it so essentially I never really knew what it was like to have money of my own and how to manage it so when I started working and earning I didn't have the skills to budget etc. But I learnt my lesson, got out too many credit cards and ended up up to mye ars in payments. I buckled down and paid it all off and now I have no debt and good spending habits. Thank god!
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@lorelai (1558)
• Italy
28 Dec 09
I am really glad you managed to get out of debt. I know that it is difficult to do that because once you owe money it is not easy to pay it back as you need to make money to live with plus the one you owe. I am really happy for you. Keep up the good work.