I do not support murder,but I support genocide

@loudcry (1043)
India
January 18, 2010 11:52am CST
"I do not support murder,but I support genocide." This is what one of my acquaintances said the other day. We were discussing about the current state of religious violence. He clearly was a religious chauvinist. But, for people to be comfortable to make such statement blatantly;that scares me. Just as we had begun think we are better than our ancestor ,as far religious tolerance is considered, it has risen its ugly face again. Almost all major wars and riots in the world today are motivated by religion.Without taking sides,for the sake of this discussion in any case, wars against Iraq and Afganistan fall in this catogory. Most problems in Africa are also religious in nature. What do you people think? Is there a solution in sight or we are descending into another period of dark ages.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
18 Jan 10
If it wasn't religion it would just be something else. It's man's nature. Religion, in the context you're using of starting wars, is only the justification. And in a world context, anything's going to be justification. Some of the biggest "wars" were over land and ports. We've seen "wars" over nutmeg. People are going to find a reason to fight and to rule and to conquer. Throughout history, out of every supposedly wise man's theories tried and hand-holding venture, the only real remedy for disagreements has been money. Prosperous nations are usually the last ones hellbent on blowing others up. Perverting religion to justify fighting is just convenience. I mean, how fitting is it that the biggest maniacs in history have held their respective higher power up to be more maniacal than them? It's just a scapegoat -- a way to get others on board and to skirt the blame by claiming they're righteous. We would have had to rise up in the first place to descend.
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
19 Jan 10
I sincerely beleive you have a point here. Religion might very well be just a justification for man's actions. Maybe we are hard wired to keep fighting each other over something or the other. There is no hope, is there?
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
23 Jan 10
Squashig bugs will make us feel that we have cleaned our society. But the ideology that made such a bug possible may still remain persistant, possibly breeding more bugs. We should attack the root cause of extremism, promote respect of each others rights.
• United States
19 Jan 10
Well, I think there's definitely hope. I could be wrong (deadly wrong, to be sure ) but I think we can really work toward prosperity in the world instead of a false idea of equality. This would be the "coming together" we all need, and when a nut like Jong-il pops up, we could all just squash him like a bug and move on with our lives.
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• United States
22 Jan 10
I think that those who are fighting to keep their land (the Middle East) are also fighting for their religion, but on the other hand, those fighting against terrorism (the United States) are fighting to protect their investements. Religion is an isolated issue of violence contained in the Middle East. All other wars have come about over land and money. Right now, the United States is fighting two wars simply because we need to maintain control of that land as the precious little fossil fuels that are left are contained in that area. The government will try to convince the general public that they are doing it to protect freedom and fight terrorism, but those issues are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the real reasons that we are fighting overseas.
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
23 Jan 10
You are right. These wars could very well be about oil and religion just an excuse.
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@harshadod (858)
• India
27 Jan 10
I will not like to become a believer of anything. I would like be a skeptic. Anti-dogmatic person who keeps challenging what he knows. Is there a theory called as "Biological Robot"? Facts are interpreted and in interpretation things get mislead. We are found of explanations and we keep seeking them. We as a species are struggling to come to terms with our intellect. The conflict is between survival instinct versus being politically correct, morally right or whatever you name it.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
18 Jan 10
Hi loudcry,I sincerely hope that we are not decending into another dark age, and personally I feel that we are not. I must admit though that hearing someone say that would certainly scare me and I agree that religious fundamentalism is behind a lot of it. People must find a way to live their religion without making others wrong for the way they are doing it. It is time to realize that we are all one and the religion that's best for one person may not be right for another. Many people are beginning to see this but not the fundamentlists, especially in Christianity and Islam. Lets hope that such people will see the light before there are more wars and more lives lost. Blessings.
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
19 Jan 10
I hope you are right.
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• United States
20 Jan 10
I would disagree about the Iraq was being about religion, but as that is not your question I will not go into detail about that. I think religious wars are the stupidest thing around. For the sole reason that there is not a religion around that does not teach it's followers to be peaceful and to love their fellow man. Now for the first person to bring up the term Jihad to counter my remark, you are being foolish, as that is not the true purpose of the term, nor the intent of a greater Jihad which Muslims face, the greater one is all about dealing with your inner self and fighting the evils there. Sadly, we have hateful people who take something that is meant to help people and give them a deeper sense of meaning and corrupting it into a tool to justify war, hatred, and murder. And what's worse is that many people are so blind and ignorant that they accept when such bigoted stereotypes are thrown in their face and believe it to be the truth. Too many Americans sincerely believe that Muslim = terrorist, that every last person in the Middle East hates us and is evil. The solution is simple. The solution is that people realize that every last human being on this planet is just like them. They have feelings, thoughts, and opinions. They will not always agree with you, nor should they, and that blind hate, or really non-blind hate is not acceptable. That learning about someone is more constructive then stereotyping them. And that anything is better then hatred. I'm a complete Atheist and I accept every blasted religion on the face of the Earth, I really don't see how everyone else can't. Other religions existing don't undermine or demean yours. No one is forcing you to join a different religion, and even learning about another for the sake of understanding a people does not make you a horrible member of your current faith. But what do I know? I'm a no good Godless liberal :P
@loudcry (1043)
• India
21 Jan 10
What do you think Iraq is about? Oil. It is very much a possibility that countries use religion to fight their wars, but haveing ulterior motives. I completely agree with your understanding of the muslim world. There are such intelligent ,rational people in the middle east, only they have never been engaged by the west. There is also a theory that it to the interest of the US and Europe if the middle east is unstable. That Al qaeda was funded by the US, it continues to support Pakistan,when it common knowledge hat they run terrorist camps. Anyway, more after you reply.
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