Will the masses in England now see the only cup coming back is a paper one !!

@oldchem1 (8144)
June 13, 2010 3:46am CST
After the EMBARRASSING display that that shower of English players put on last night against ( let's be honest) hardly the best soccer team in the world, do you think the poor disallusioned people here in England will eventually realise there is no chance ( yet again) of us winning the World Cup. My son is 14 but he said when Fabio (A flaming Italian !!) had chosen rubbish goal keepers - and I think Jack was proved right last night!! But what can we ( living in the home of the game!) expect when all our top Premier League players are playing in the World Cup for other countries. This is due to the fact that instead of encouraging and training our own home grown talent clubs are relying more and more on foreign players and managers - even to the extent of the English manager. We need to take the sport back to grass roots and perhaps then there may be a chance of 'Football coming Home'!!
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@rosie230 (1674)
13 Jun 10
I must admit, I was enjoying the game in the beginning, and even though I missed the England goal in the first few minutes of the game due to ITV playing up, I thought Yay, actually perhaps we have a good game to look forward to, but well, when Green dropped the ball after catching it, and it rolled into the back of the net, I thought, Oh here we go again! # The game was a disappointment, and I think the same as many others that they were positioned all wrong. Rooney never really done anything until the second half, and he is supposed to be a top player. I think after last night well, England need to get sorted, so that the next game is not as much as a shambles if they want us to take the cup home. After all the World Cup hype that we have endured over the last couple of months, it really made me think that yeah this year I hope that England will bring home the cup, and get themselves another star on their shirt! But now, I just feel a bit disillusioned by it all, and just think we will again be beaten in shame and taken out. Let's hope Cappillo (or however you spell his name) sorts the team out, and gets us playing better, before we go out in shame!
@oldchem1 (8144)
13 Jun 10
It might help if we had a manager who could speak English !!
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@karen1969 (1788)
13 Jun 10
Oh, I haven't given up yet, it was only the first game! I don't actually think we could win really, but hopefully get into the semi-finals or something. I will certainly be watching the rest of our matches and keeping my fingers crossed!!!
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@oldchem1 (8144)
13 Jun 10
Don't get TOO excited!! Let's face it if we can't beat America what hope have we with the big boys!! I'm in an online row with my eldest daughter at the moment on Facebook about this!! She thought they 'played well' I call it wearing rose coloured glasses!!!!
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@karen1969 (1788)
13 Jun 10
Hey, I'm an optimist! There are still some more games coming up that we can win!
@bashesbc (12)
13 Jun 10
I must admit that I am not really a sports fan although I do somewhat enjoy a good rugby match, of either code, but being English I decided to watch our overpaid nancy boys last night, and as usual finished up calling them what I thought throughout the game. What we desperately need to do is concentrate on funding proper training of home grown talent,of which there is plenty, and forming a team which can compete on the world stage. I will probably watch any remaining England games, hoping that they improve, but I won't be holding my breath.
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@oldchem1 (8144)
13 Jun 10
'overpaid nancy boys' I love it!!!
@zralte (4186)
• India
13 Jun 10
I agree with you there that it was embarrassing not to beat 'hardly the best soccer team in the world'. I have to disagree with you there that it was the Keeper's fault. I think it was purely luck/misfortune that that particular score was made. Agreeing with you yet again that home grown talent needs to be encouraged. After all, they would be more useful and also, they would contribute to the country as a whole. Instead of sending their earnings home to other countries, etc. etc. Better for the economy as well.
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@oldchem1 (8144)
13 Jun 10
He DROPPED the ball - it was really an own goal!!!
@mysdianait (64294)
• Italy
13 Jun 10
I watched it too. I am English and in the first years that I was here in Italy I would cheer for England but then as time passed I changed teams. Let's face it, I live here for over three decades and feel that I belong here more than there. However in the back of my mind I can still remember what English fottball really was. That wasn't what I saw last night though - but Italy still have to play their first game (tomorrow) so I might be disappointed then too. Just a thought: if all the players have to have the nationality of the country that they are playing for, then surely the manager should be from the same country too?
@oldchem1 (8144)
13 Jun 10
Exactly my thought!! How on earth an Italian can be our manager defies belief!! I am old enough to remember a time when England had all English players and played well actually holding up that precious cup in 1966!!
@mysdianait (64294)
• Italy
13 Jun 10
Yes me too! I feel a song coming on... "Those were the days, my friend...."
@oldchem1 (8144)
13 Jun 10
all together now!!
@ram_cv (16516)
• India
19 Jun 10
I do not think realistically I expected England to win the world cup this time around. I was thinking more a semis spot for England. But after watching two rounds of performance from the English, I have downgraded them to a first round exit!! I am sorry there are really no good English goalkeepers around and all you have to do is look at Premier League where none of the top teams have English goalkeepers as their first choice. If you look at the three picked by Capello, in David James and Rob Green you had two people who fighting relegation battles and Joe Hart was somewhere mid table. No European experience at all for any of the goalkeepers. Cheers! Ram
@oldchem1 (8144)
19 Jun 10
You have hit the nail on the head with your comments on our so called team. We have too many foreign players in our Premier league and so have little choice for a national team
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@ram_cv (16516)
• India
19 Jun 10
When it comes to international matches, I am a firm believer that each nation should represent it's character. So everyone involved with the team including coach should be from that country. That is when passion comes into the job. Teams such as Germany, Italy and Brazil generally follow this principle. I am not a fan of a foreign coach for an established footballing country. It is okay for up and coming countries to help them in their development, but not for countries with good footballing setup already!! Cheers! Ram
• China
14 Jun 10
i love england ,i love beckham,but i dont love the coach,at the beginning ,the england team played good,but they lose a goal by a mistake,i think it is dont matter,i think england will play more better in next game ,and they will win the cup at last !
@oldchem1 (8144)
14 Jun 10
I wish I had your optimism!!
@vivek2006 (1419)
• India
13 Jun 10
I was disappointed as well after that draw and against which team America i mean wtf happened, just because of a stupid goalkeeper's blunder all the hard work by other players was undone. I mean that Steven Gerrard's goal was superb and it would take America ages to score that kinda goal but all in vain just because mr.green can't hold his balls. I felt so irritated when i saw that goal in highlights even your 14 yr old son would have held that ball easier than that green. Goalkeepers have been a problem for England for quite some time now. There is no Buffon or Julio Cesar who whould make saves that are beyond imagination. But still none of expected such a horriffic blunder from that goalkeeper. I hope it doesnt happen again bcoz top sides wont get a draw but a win when you make blunders like that. I agree with you on that premier league statement that homwgrown talent needs to be nurtured in a better way than what been happening as foreign players have taken the front seat and young english talents are lagging behind.
@oldchem1 (8144)
13 Jun 10
Think of the goal keepers in England - they're all foreign!
@ellie333 (21029)
13 Jun 10
Hi Oldchem, I watched the match last night with my son and admittedly Green let that goal in but goalkeepers blunders are always there for all to see, but there were many missed opportunies from other players on the field too. I agree we should encourage our own home grown kids to play, they weren't international transfers etc years ago, we need a few more Gordan Banks, Bobby Moore etc back on side eh! Like Karen I too haven't given up on England yet. Someone I know has tickets for the Brazil Portugual match and alsothe semi-final - lucky them eh! I am quite happy beinghome here watching it all from my lounge. I let my son stay up last night to watch and he got quiteupset when I screamed NO!!!! very loudly at the screeen when the USA scored and said mummy please don't shout you frightened me bless, yet at a Ladies Cup Final I took him too recently he was the loudest cherring and shouting bless! lol Huggles. Ellie :D
@oldchem1 (8144)
13 Jun 10
I'm really a Rugby League fan, me and my son get very vocal when we watch matches. If we watch on the TV my hubby leaves the room!! But there IS a sport, one that is more exciting to watch then watching paint dry like that one was last night!!