When does art stop being art?

@Aeval39 (773)
United States
November 16, 2006 10:12pm CST
I look at this new modern art and it makes me wonder... just how far are we going to bend the lines between art and just... stuff? If we define art as something that evokes feelings and emotions in you, and elicits a response, then just about anything can be art. I've seen things that look like a child's stick figure scribbles, and those red box things that make me go "I could have done that." Even if it is art, what makes these things worth millions of dollars, and your child's pictures worthless to most others?
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
21 Nov 06
All art is legitimate, and no two people will see eye teye as far as art is considered. Our preferences in Art are a manifestation of our likes ,dislikes ,beleives and the various random experiences we have had. what makes these things worth millions of dollars,and your child's pictures worthless to most others? Though some hype might be associated with the high prices of modern art, it's still free and fair trade, between two willing people.
@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
23 Nov 06
Oh no, I'm not angry. I was just discussing. (:
@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
22 Nov 06
It's true that there are people for every kind of art. I also agree that what somebody purchases is his own business. But I don't want to be told what is great art, just because it was bought for a large sum of money.
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
22 Nov 06
There is some amount of drama surrounding art today,but it does not warrant anger. One can always live a clean life should one chooses to.
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@zuri25 (2125)
• United States
20 Nov 06
This is a great question! Art is one of those things that has no static definition. To me, art is anything that makes me smile, makes me think, makes me ponder what the artist's motivation for creating the work was, makes me scratch my head in contemplation, and inspires me to create my own works of art.
@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
21 Nov 06
Great defenition! Some of the weirder stuff really does make me scratch my head, but more in confusion than artistic thought LOL. I love to browse around DeviantArt, that really gets me motivated to draw.
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@zuri25 (2125)
• United States
21 Nov 06
Thanx! - thank you
Deviantart is my all time favorite website. I hope that in the near future I will be able to have an account to share my photography, my mosaic artwork, and my poetry. Thanks for giving me best response...much appreciated!
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@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
22 Nov 06
Rubber duckie! I love your new avvie! ^______^ And I look forward to seeing you on DA. I've been neglecting it a little lately... but I'm going to come back!
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@akumei1269 (1749)
• India
20 Nov 06
You are opening the pandora's box through your discussion . I also sometimes feel myself fool watching certain so called art pieces .Nothing they can evoke in anybody's mind . You bang your forehead on walls searching the meaning of such arts . In fact they are like any other commodity . The brand name of the artists of such art pieces is behind such bogus arts and art exhibition . And the buyers are not necessarily art connoissure . Owning arts of certain types of artists is nothing but status symbol for them .Their servants just keep such art pieces from gathering dust on it .
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@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
21 Nov 06
Hah, I know I am. But it's a discussion that I've always loved having with people, because I'm truly interested in what people have to say about it. It looks like the art world is nothing but a big business, just like everything else these days. I see so many incredible artists on DA, who get no recognition beyond the website because they don't have the right connections. It begs the question... is something that isn't purchased for millions of dollars considered worse art than what is? Ha, I just asked another horrible question, didn't I.
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@icequeen (2840)
• Canada
20 Nov 06
I totally agree with you. However...that is the way of the world. It is a buyer's market and some people have the money and are willing to spend it on frivolous purchases. I guess it is what you define as art...and perhaps talent takes a backseat sometimes...
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@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
21 Nov 06
It's sad but true. You're completely right, and I guess we can't do anything about that, and I wonder why, if one person buys something completely on a whim, everyone in the world suddenly sees it as an incredible work of art.
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• United States
20 Nov 06
yes, I agree, yeah I don't know where the line is, but I definitley agree with you, art should take some skill too
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@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
21 Nov 06
You can put as much feeling as you want into your scribble, but if all I see is a scribble, it's not really art to me. Scribbles can be artistic too, but that's where the skills come in. I guess art is in the eye of the beholder, just like beauty lol.
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@valmiki9 (1171)
• India
22 Nov 06
770960419 - natural view
A BIG FRAUD ISGOING ON IN THE NAME OF ART. Recently I heard a joke. one person said to another that he in artist. What have you drawn? asked the other. the firsst one showed a blank paper. "There is nothing here" said the first one." dont you see the cow and green grass asked the first one. No said the other. "dont you realize that the cow has eaten the grass and gone away that is why the paper is blank" said the first one. Modern art is like this.The painter draws some vague lines and tells you to imagine something beautiful in that.
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@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
22 Nov 06
LOL! Wow. XD That just about sums it up, right there. "That blank part right there, THAT was the cow. It symbolizes peace and well-being!!" Seriously. And I bet someone would buy it for millions of dollars and it'll suddenly be a classic. Look on the bright side, at least forges will be easy to make. XD
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@Antianara (608)
• Australia
22 Nov 06
I know how you feel, one gallery I was in had a painting that had one brown paint stroke on it (nothing artistic about it, just a straight line) and that's all, the rest was blank canvas. now I know the "artist" could have had a long winded story about what it meant but... I couldn't see it as art. and it bothers me when people splatter paint (with no artistic thought in it at all) on a canvas and then becomes rich and famous while those that actually try are compeletly ignored.
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@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
23 Nov 06
Wow, that sounds like something people these days would love. The paint splatters, while they take no talent at all, are kind of fun to look at. Makes me think of modern poetry, too. It seems like the people just splatter random things on a page and then let others have fun trying to figure out what it means.
• India
23 Nov 06
wen da only motive behind it is money
@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
23 Nov 06
That's true.
21 Nov 06
I don't personally know what classes art as art myself, but for me, I think art is anything that I like. But it does have to be good. I cannot abide those pictures where all you get is a 'splodge' either. What's the point?
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@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
22 Nov 06
That's true! Although I know some people who will look at the splodge and think "That part right there symbolizes This and That!" Which might be the case! Or it might just be the way the paint landed. That kind of thing bothers me in writing, too. "The author used this specific word in the middle of this sentence to symbolize..." maybe he did, but most likely he didn't. I guess it's fun to analyze anyway.
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@akotalagato (1334)
• Philippines
22 Nov 06
i think it varies with every individual. some might think its art when others might think its just junk. i guess its like beauty. its in the eyes of the beholder.
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@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
22 Nov 06
Yup! I completely agree with that. And I don't mind as long as no one comes up to me and points at something, saying "Here's what you should think: that right there is beautiful."
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• South Africa
18 Nov 06
Wow - deep question. I agree that the lines between junk and art are very fine these days. I have seen some truly ridiculous pieces passed off as art... But I think the beauty of art lies in individual expression and value (as well as commercial value). If a child's picture is meaningful to you (and I have several pieces that mean a lot to me from children!) then it's definately art and it's just as valuable.
@Aeval39 (773)
• United States
19 Nov 06
I agree. But I still say that someone should take their child's drawings and sell them off for millions. That would be awesome. And a great "in your face!" to modern artists (I mean no offense to anyone, of course).
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@jamie11982 (1658)
• United States
20 Nov 06
Art is always art.
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• United States
22 Nov 06
Im not sure exaclty when. I guess when it is not original work, and it merely imitates another person's work.