What to do about the Santa Claus Problem?

Canada
October 26, 2010 10:03am CST
I am very strongly against lying to children, ever, in any way. Children can feel very hurt and betrayed when adults lie to them, and if your children don't trust you it can even be dangerous (like when you say, you have to come here, NOW, and they don't believe you, but it's because they are in the path of a car and in danger!) So, what do I do about Christmas? My daughter will only be 6 months old this Christmas, so no problem there. But next year I do not know what to do. My family has Christian roots, but does not practice any religion. Christmas is a time for families to get together and experience the joy of giving, in my family. And my dad loves to go overboard, giving many, many, presents from "Santa." If I told my parents that I was uncomfortable lying and didn't want any presents labelled "from Santa" I would seem ungrateful, but worse, I would be ruining their fun that they want to have, surprising their first granddaughter with pretty gifts! I remember when I was little, Christmas was so exciting, and I know it would be less exciting without the Santa Claus myth. But I'm still torn with my principles of never lying...what should I do?
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
26 Oct 10
When you go to a play or watch a movie, do you ever think that you are being lied to? That these people are only actors and the story isn't real? Of course not! When you read the old favourite stories like Cinderella or Goldilocks and the Three Bears, do you believe they are real (or would you expect any child to think they are real)? No! There should be a place for fantasy and make-believe in any child's life (I really ought to say, in any adult's life, too). When we are little we accept such stories in the same way that we accept reality but gradually, as we grow older, we learn to know the difference between myth, make-believe and reality and we KNOW that the non-reality things are different from lies. People who see the 'Sants myth' as somehow lying to children have, sometimes, themselves lost that magical dawn light of childhood where talking bears might exist and princesses might sleep for 100 years and a great, jovial (and somewhat scary) old man dressed in red might fly through the sky on Christmas Eve. Children aren't harmed by a belief in (and fear of) Santa because they already live in a world where many inexplicable things happen and love the frisson of knowing that something isn't really real but can still really exist in their imaginations. Children are not like some adults where a lie is 'black' and truth is 'white' there are many grays - and colours - in between. In fact, if we are honest, the world is NOT black and white, even for those who are so fixated on 'good' and 'evil' that they cannot allow children to 'make-believe' because it is not the 'truth'. It seems to me that such people are inclined to remove much of the fun out of their own (and other people's) lives.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
26 Oct 10
You have a year to think about this, remember, but, before that, I hope, you will be reading your daughter stories. What will she like best, do you think? "The Hungry Caterpillar" or "A Child's History of America" (if such a thing exists!). Just remember that the first is fiction and the second is bound to be mostly lies and half-truths ... and know the difference!
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
26 Oct 10
Well, perhaps I am at an advantage because, you see ... I AM Santa (or, at least, have been for a few hundred children over a couple of Christmas seasons). I have awed, delighted (and scared) all of them in turn and have said to some of the older ones (when they challenged me) that, "Yes, of course I'm a real man, but ... what do YOU think Christmas and 'Santa' is about?" I have had some very interesting answers. When I put on my red coat, dreadful false beard and shiny black leather knee boots I become a different person. I borrow patience and a special love of and respect for childhood from my ghostly predecessors (Odin, Saturn, Grandfather Frost and St. Nicholas, amongst others) who, for that season, gather their 4000 years of experience in me (and thousands of other 'Santa's all over the world). Santa is far, far older than Jesus but his message is the same (and he defers to his younger superior who said it a lot better and whose birthday we are, after all, celebrating ... isn't THAT why Christmas is specially about and for children?). It's a big responsibility and one which I have enjoyed more than anything else in my life. I hope I can say that I have NEVER lied to the children I speak to. I wish them all a happy Christmas individually and from the bottom of my heart. If any of them are shy of telling me whether they have been good or not, I just look into their eyes and KNOW that they are ALL good at heart (and I tell them so). Sometimes I ask their brother or sister for confirmation (with a twinkle, of course) ... and occasionally I ask them if their Mom or Dad has been good and what are they going to give them for Christmas! I shan't be doing it this year and I will sorely miss it! Now, am I a fraud, as Santa, or not?
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• Canada
26 Oct 10
You have a very good point. I am an avid reader and already read to my daughter. The problem I have is not with the story, or with escaping into fantasy temporarily, but with telling children that Santa is real, including the "be good or your won't get presents" line that accompanies the belief. Because that is lying. I, and my parents, would still get her presents even if she misbehaved occasionally, of course! I would not expect my daughter to believe in Cinderella, and if she asked, I would tell her it is not real. I am worried about questions. I think I can say "go to bed so Santa will come!" but I don't know if I can answer all the inevitable questions about how reindeer fly and fat men fit down chimneys, etc, because it will not be factual information! It is not that I want to spoil the fun, of course! I am leaning towards going with the fun of it, but when I sense that she is figuring it out herself, telling her the truth then, that it was a fun game that we played because it made her excited and happy. The problem is more with me: whenever I try to tell even the smallest falsehood, I feel sick to my stomach and guilty for a long time. Even if it's a "white lie" for a good cause.
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• Philippines
26 Oct 10
When i talk about santa claus to children, i just imagine telling them a fairy tale. It's not actually a bad thing. For instance, what would you say if a kid asked you where the babies come from? Your tendency here is to lie provided that the kid insisted you on giving him a specific answer.
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• Philippines
27 Oct 10
Well, whatever suits you. :)
• Canada
27 Oct 10
Haha, exactly. I'm not going to tell anyone else what they should be telling their kids. That's a great way to make enemies :P
• Philippines
27 Oct 10
So why start the discussion in the first place? Lol
@vijay12 (1642)
• India
26 Oct 10
Tell the truth and at the same time ask the kids, to consider this as fun and enjoy.
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• Canada
26 Oct 10
That is one thing I have considered. Thanks for your input!
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• United States
29 Dec 10
I'm sorry for just answering this question now. I have had issues with this as well. I've told mine that Santa exists and we explain where the idea of Santa Clause got started. Last year I started putting things in Layaway at Kmart. I told her last year that momma had to start paying Santa Clause for all the presents she gets from him because Santa had to start paying people to make them with the way things are now. It takes so much to make toys now, especially all the electronics that he needed people who knew how to make things like that. Well, then I said that Santa decided on certain toys that parents could pay a payment on to certain stores to do layaway so that way they don't have to get it out all at once. This year we did that as well. We also explained the meaning behind the presents and why we put the star lighted up on the tree as well. This year I was able to ask for help from one of the local churches. Those pieces were the ones i put from Santa and the others from Kmart were from me and my mom. It's easy to get carried away with the giving. My mom always said that you should be doing the giving all year long instead of waiting until Thanksgiving to start doing it. It's hard to see the meaning behind the gifts if they don't appreciate the story behind the meaning of giving gifts. Teaching them where it got started and why we celebrate Christmas should be something you should look at in the future. Even at 1, my little girl wouldn't even go up to Santa, we had to get a background of santa for her santa pictures. Let them know santa lives in our heart and who santa was and who santa still is to many. We believed in Santa when we were young and even though we're adults now we still believe in the magic behind Santa otherwise we wouldn't be passing the tradition down to our children.
• Canada
29 Dec 10
Well I agree that giving should be done all year -- but not toys and "stuff". I think we should be giving of our time and attention and love all year, and of course I plan on teaching my daughter that. My parents always saw Christmas as a time to spoil us with the toys they couldn't afford to give us all year round (like some of our friends got) and also, they could say "santa" gave it to us as a reward for being good -- that way we still respected that our parents weren't rich and we were not to whine and beg for toys they could not afford (again, as our friends did to their parents)
@formidexo (1351)
• Canada
26 Oct 10
I applaud you for having such high moral principles in this decadent and destructive world. They are principles worth upholding. The principles of telling the truth and wanting the truth to be told is higher than mankind. I do understand that not everyone values the truth as some of us do. But then we are the product of a lie (if you believe the Adam and Eve story, we have resulted from Adam and Eve believing Satan's lie). Could they not put on the gift, from Grandpa and Grandma who love you very much. That's what I do when I give gifts to my grandchildren. They are told the truth as to from whom the gift is coming. The world is so full of lies and liars that it makes me sick. Today, we credit "mother nature" or evolution instead of God with the gifts He showers upon us. I know we are all entitled to our own opinion and I'm just stating mine for any that might not agree.
• Canada
27 Oct 10
Thanks for weighing in. It's not that I want to ruin anyone's time or spoil anyone's fun, it's just that, the more I mature, the more it makes me feel physically ill to say something that isn't true. When someone asks me a question, I feel compelled to give them as close to the truth as I can/as they will understand. And I know my parents would respect whatever I ask of them regarding my daughter, but I also do not want to ruin their fun. I didn't realize one of the hard things about being a parent was going to be considering the emotions of everyone who will interact with my child, if they don't completely agree with my parenting philosophy!
@formidexo (1351)
• Canada
27 Oct 10
Telling and living the truth is not easy. Remember what happened to Jesus? John 18:37 (New International Version) "You are a king, then!" said Pilate. Jesus answered, "You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me."
@beeh13u (1038)
• Philippines
27 Oct 10
I thought Santa was real until i was high school. It broke my heart that it was my father all along. I got angry with him later on. I turned out to be a rebel. But santa wasn't just the reason. During that time, my relationship with dad wasn't great. So he stopped giving gifts. Right now, I still feel sad about it.
• Canada
27 Oct 10
That is a sad story, and I hope things with your dad are better now. I didn't always have the best relationship with my dad but I realize now that he was trying his best -- he just didn't always know what to do or say.
• United States
26 Oct 10
I tell mine that santa comes to kmart and picks toys out and momma pays santa every couple of weeks. This is to where they think santa is there, but understand that you have to pay for things.
• Canada
27 Oct 10
That is interesting. I have never heard of it being done that way before. See, this is why I posted this discussion, to hear all these different ideas!
@Kirinx (1688)
• United States
26 Oct 10
Well if i was in your shoes I would just tell her the truth and would tell her that you adore and love her so much that you buy the gifts for her and that Santa Claus isnt real just a fairytale like the stories people read to their kids at night. The truth is the best route.
• Canada
29 Dec 10
I think that's probably a good way to go about it: and it certainly is true that I adore her!
@mmaine29 (12)
• United States
26 Oct 10
In a case like this, this is a hard one but really a no brainer. I would let the traditional "Santa Clause" role play with them until they are old enough. Believe me they are going to find out when they mature. Little Billy or little Sue at the school they attend will say "Oh you haven't had the talk yet huh" and then the Santa thing will all disappear over time. Don't be a Scroog and tell them about it at a young age. Let them have fun in believing for the moment. Believe me it has some advantages for controlling your kids at "The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year".
• Canada
29 Dec 10
My little brother found out at school, but for a couple of years he pretended to believe still so he wouldn't hurt my parents' feelings! (He is the "baby" and he knew how much they loved surprising him!)