how reasonable is this?

@hushi22 (4941)
November 29, 2010 2:18am CST
hey mylotters! once again i need your minds and advices. well, we have this issue in school. last saturday our professor/coordinator said that we will have a seminar next week and we will have to pay P500 each. the seminar comprises of 3 Filipino speakers about 3 topics. there will be 86 students who are expected to pay and attend. we will use the viewing room of our school. as my classmates and i counted, it seems too much... P43,000 for an 8 hours seminar in a day. there is no meal or snacks. maybe no handouts, too. what do you think pal?
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28 responses
• Indonesia
29 Nov 10
you should more expand about that seminar. when I was school I always interested to attanding the seminar even I should pay. and I think your teacher has considered for that price of the seminar, so you can take the ticket to get in. my suggesstion is dont such an accountable for the "knowledge" you'll get because "knowledge" is your investation in the future. well Good luck!
@hushi22 (4941)
29 Nov 10
yeah that is why we asked but the professor is not giving other answers aside from those and she even looked angry. so we were really worried esp that we heard of bad feedback about her before.
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@ajithlal (14568)
• India
5 Mar 12
I think it is good to attend seminar because it creates opportunities in the future. I always believe that knowledge is wealth.
@shia88 (4582)
• Malaysia
29 Nov 10
Hi, Maybe you should look for the information is this seminar is very important and compulsory to attend. If yes..then no choice, you have to spent that amount of money. But normally for seminar,they should serve some light tea snack in between. You can ask your coordinator for more information about this seminar before making your payment.
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@hushi22 (4941)
29 Nov 10
hi pal! actually we asked but she didnt give a good answer. she only gave those answers in sarcastic voice. it is also compulsory.
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@ajithlal (14568)
• India
4 Mar 12
Live is not always hard it changes with time. Sometimes we have tough time and sometimes we have nice times. I think it changes with time. I hope you will have nice time after that.
@foofermen (503)
29 Nov 10
get together with a group of people and have them all pitch into the admission of one student equally. Then have that one student bring a digital recorder and upload it into an e-mail and send it to the people who were involved in paying for the one students admission. Just an idea. =\
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@hushi22 (4941)
29 Nov 10
now that is a good idea! thanks pal. =)
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@angelic123 (1112)
• United States
29 Nov 10
Wow, that is really too much. I think it is okay to pay that amount if they will give you snacks and you will have the venue in other place. Maybe you should talk to your adviser about that. Ask her what is the ideal payment in attending a seminar?Or maybe you can go straight t the professor and ask her/ him nicely why the fee is high. I think the fee with depend on your course. Maybe you are going to use paraphernalia on that seminar that is why it is costly. Just ask the coordinator.
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@hushi22 (4941)
29 Nov 10
that's our point pal, but the coordinator is being sarcastic and not giving us answers on our questions. the problem is she is the coordinator of the course. we think that is really unreasonable.
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@louievill (18674)
• Philippines
29 Nov 10
People who would like to make an extra buck under the table are always unreasonable, hope she's not reading all this right now, she might make an unreasonable reply
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• Philippines
29 Nov 10
A seminar for a cost of P500 is a right price w/ 3 speakers attending. For all I know speakers cost a lot now a days particularly technical expertise of w/ they charge an hourly engagement.
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@owlwings (39249)
• Cambridge, England
29 Nov 10
That seems quite expensive. Good speakers don't come cheap, I know, but, if all 86 students pay 500 pesos, each speaker would earn £200 ($300) for their session. It sounds as though the school or faculty is not subsidising the session at all! I would say that it had better be a very high quality seminar at which you would learn a great deal of value for your 500 pesos!
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@ratyz5 (7829)
• Philippines
29 Nov 10
I have attended seminars before and some of them didn't even require us to pay any amount but, we still get something to eat and so on. We would have guest speakers too and we would get to talk to them and ask them questions if we have any. If ever that we do need to pay, we still get to eat something and with that amount that you mentioned, I think you would really get a fine meal with it. Now, you mentioned that there would be no meals and/or snacks. No handouts even?! I have heard of compulsory things at school but, there are things that they do have to reconsider, knowing that money isn't as easy to earn these days..
@hushi22 (4941)
29 Nov 10
hi ratyz! =) yeah that is too huge. i remember the only time i attended a seminar of this amount was held in Mariott Hotel with a lawyer speaker (already US citizen Filipina) who is famous and has been working for so long. that was for Nursing. we even had two snacks that time and free pencil and paper for taking down notes. it was good for 8 hours. when i compare it with what we will have this weekend my heart breaks.
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@ratyz5 (7829)
• Philippines
30 Nov 10
Well, no matter who the speaker is, be it a local or someone who is very well known internationally, everybody would be capable to be a speaker in any event for as long as they have the experience related to the theme of the event to back it up with. Try to discuss this matter with your teachers at school. Perhaps hearing both sides would get you all to an acceptable conclusion wherein a compromise can be settled?
@ybong007 (6658)
• Philippines
30 Nov 10
If this is a school requirement or something in which you are graded upon then i guess you have to cough up the five hundred pesos registration fee. If you think that it's just a way for some people to get a cut then you should bring that up with a higher authority, you could do it anonymously.Five hundred pesos is already equivalent to a days work for those who have a day job therefore it's also important that you get your money's worth which ever way you spend it.
@hushi22 (4941)
7 Dec 10
yeah. we just did pal though many students were complaining during the seminar.
@jazel_juan (15767)
• Philippines
30 Nov 10
no one disagreed on the amount? i would have. that is too much, students do not even earn any income, parents are the one earning and giving that 500..toooo much for a one day seminar. who are your speakers? the president? your mayor? hahaha plus if it would be in my case i would be the one talking to the speakers if they could do it probono.. or just give them tokens since it would be students that would be listening! plus no meal? no snacks? impossible! when i was in college, i also organized such event, a one day seminar, and i had speakers from NEDA and DTI and we just payed for our meal and snack..and we did not pay the speaker at all, we just gave them tokens of appreciation.
@hushi22 (4941)
7 Dec 10
that was exactly our point, but the coordinator started being sarcastic when my classmate reacted.
• Portugal
29 Nov 10
i think that you have to pay so much for just three days of seminar. im very sorry that you have to pay all that money just for that. anyway you need to go bcs your course right? i really wish that you could go for free but i see how these things are. in my country to take little courses also have to be paid a lot of money too. but i guess that 43 000 pesos is too much really and no one should have to pay that.
@hushi22 (4941)
29 Nov 10
it isn't even three days sweet. it's only 8hours but three topics.
@toniganzon (50001)
• Philippines
29 Nov 10
The speakers are paid per hour and the lowest rate is 2000php! And that's the lowest. If the speaker is well known he needs to be paid 8000php per hour. And if they live in another island or city, the transportation fee will be paid by you including their hotel accommodation and food. And you said there will be three.
@hushi22 (4941)
29 Nov 10
according to our researched two of the speakers are part time (weekend) teachers in the school.
@bin22l (160)
• Guwahati, India
16 Dec 10
Hi! hushi I do not know the value in Indian currency you mentioned.But in India too the students has to pay money for attending seminar.Perhaps Rs.100 per day, if the seminars are national level or international level.When some internal seminars are organised by the college itself, the students do not have to pay anything.Of course, the seminars are not valued for examination purpaose in India.
• Philippines
8 Dec 10
wohooooo............that's too much money huh!in a State Colleges they can have an option like what we did last semester we conducted a seminar but we find a speaker who is willing to be part of it without giving him a single penny what we did is we just bought him a lunch and a snack as i know there was about 200 participants, having a 43k budget is too much there should be hand outs and snacks too :) have a nice day!
• Philippines
7 Dec 10
hushi22, P500.00 is ok provided that the place is rented. Since I already had attended plenty of seminars and the places where it is held are places for rent. But if you are talking about the viewing room of your school, then it's probably free. So, therefore, I conclude that your professor is going to have a good time this christmas and can afford to buy expensive gifts. Lingaw kaayo siya karong pasko.
• Philippines
3 Dec 10
Hi Hush, For that I can't say anything now, but maybe you should try to validate, if there's really no meals, snack and even handouts. You may also ask if who will be the speakers? A celebrity? Politician? or an Icon from Different fields? and if this seminar does have it's beneficiary? if it;s you who will gain more knowledge and some institution who will receive the collected amount? or just the people behind who organized that. Then after we'll know if paying P500 for that is fair and reasonable enough.
@ajithlal (14568)
• India
2 Dec 10
I think it is expensive and if you can afford it, I think you should try to attend it. I hope in the future there will be seminars and classes, which are less costly. Here also some of the education classes and seminars cost very high. I think you should do what you really feel. If you really want it, I think you should try to go for it.
@aerous (13474)
• Philippines
1 Dec 10
You know friend, that is against the school rules and regulation and you should consult with you school president about it before pay the amount. Because it is the duty of the school to burden the expenses for seminars...even they approve soliciting money for the meals of the guest but not that amount... I don't why you agreed in that particular case in your school. If you feel this is irregularities you consult to your school president. But if the President, still agree on it...go to the nearest CHED office and consult about it
30 Nov 10
I would tell there where to go in not such a polite way. This really is way too much. To ask for you to pay 500 each is disgraceful, especially just for a seminar. To expect all 86 students to pay this and for such a possibly short and quick seminar they seem to be getting around 43,000 is awful. Is this something that you really do have to attend? What would happen if you didn't? Surely there are many others that would not wnat to pay this amount of money? Have you spoken to others to see what they think about this and what they are going to or want to do about it?
• Philippines
30 Nov 10
maybe if your going to some place but hey, your in your own school.. maybe you can clarify to your teacher where would it be used specifically, cause it;s your to know.
@aeiou78 (3457)
• Malaysia
30 Nov 10
No handout, no snacks and no meal. It is just a chit-chat program. May I know if the seminar is compulsory for all of the students? Then there should not have any charges. I have a good idea for you. Among your classmates, you should send one or two representative to attend the seminar. By using a mini camcorder, you can record down everything in the seminar which can be shared later. In my past experience in attending the seminar, I were not allowed to use camcorder during the seminar. As such, you should think about a way to hide your camcorder. ha! ha! ha!