Is Children's services ruining families???

@pjnjclyn (176)
Newton, New Jersey
April 6, 2011 11:45am CST
I happen to live in NJ and I have to say here what we call childre's services is DYFS (Division of Youth and Family services) I will tell you that they are destroying families in this state children are taken away when they should be getting help with what is wrong. Then they live children when they should be taken away from the family. Then we have the foster homes there are so many homes that are worse then the homes that where in the fist place. I know people that are on both sides of the coin and it is terrible. Children telling their parents if you punish me I will call DYFS on you. You have the schools having programs telling the children what do and call DYFS if your parents yell at you or punish you. What is going on? How is it in you state???
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@terryt52 (243)
• United States
6 Apr 11
First of all I will tell you I did foster care and I have adopted two beautiful special needs children from the foster care system. I agree that children that should not be taken are and those that should be taken aren't. I feel that way too many children are being abused and there most usually is a sign that things are wrong in the home. I am a big news reader there is not a day that goes by that I do not read that a child has been hurt or killed and at the end of the day you find out that DCF has been there before. I do not think that enough is being done to protect our children and on the other hand I know cases where DCF is involved where they shouldn't be. I know the school system does not help the parent trying to parent their children. They put their nose in when they shouldn't. It is a messed up world however we as citizens can help protect those children where the protection is needed. I have gone right up against the state for a parent who should not have their children returned and I have gone against the state when I think a child should not have been taken. I am a very big advocate for children and domestic violence. It saddens me to think after all their education the system DCF still does not have it right. But then again the hire people right out of college who does not have an inclination on parenting. So this is what we are dealing with. My two girls are the best present God gave me and I still take in kids after they are thrown out of the state and I never give up that they will make something of themselves. I could write a book on the system it is way out of control.
• United States
6 Apr 11
It sound like two kids where lucky enough to be saved from the system. All to often as with my cousin good people cannot handle what happens in the system so the system loses them when most needed. Kudos to you and yours!
@pjnjclyn (176)
• Newton, New Jersey
6 Apr 11
Thank you for helping people like you do. There should be more out there. You are afraid to parent your children becsuse of fears but when you do nothing the child is out of control because there are no boundries. I think that truly that you need to have children in order to be able to tell parents what they think is right or wrong. You get these young people that do not know anything about children and they think that all children are sitting in the home with their hands crossed and that when you clean your home is stays spottless for the entire day becuase they kids do not mess it us. Oh God forbid the childs room is a mess a child would never do that. This is not fairytale land things are not going to be perfect especially when they are young children around.
• United States
6 Apr 11
Wow Terry many blessings to you! My sister-in-law took on 5 children who were in a really dangerous family ranging from ages 6 months to 13 years old. One year later she adopted them all. To date 1 has graduated college 2 are in college now and the other tow in high school. So many blessings to you Terry and hope that more parents like and my sister-in-law make differences like this to deserving children.
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
7 Apr 11
I am not from your state nor country but I do have relatives in New Jersey. My aunt sees to it that all her grandchildren are given the discipline the Filipino way - obey your parents. As to the law, I think America came up with that when the parents, two generations ago, were nervous wrecks. The second world war disillusioned the people and the adults were releasing their outbursts on the poor children. Thus the anti-abuse on children law. That is how I view it from the outside, lyn, I might be wrong. But if I am right, then it is time to amend the law. Your house representative could look into it... all you have to do is to suggest...
@pjnjclyn (176)
• Newton, New Jersey
7 Apr 11
No elected officals will get invloved when you go and speak to anyone and mention DYFS there is nothing that will be done. It is almost like they are above the law. Even if you are found innocent of something DYFS will still hold it against you. They are terrible and the elected officals let them get away with whatever they want to get away with.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
7 Apr 11
Such a gargantuan task, huh, that is why our people down here run to the media, to expose the politicians whose primary objective in running for a seat in the house of representatives is to do some power play, and eventually enrich themselves.
@apples99 (6556)
• United States
7 Apr 11
Well thankfully I've never had to deal with or experience anything having to do with children, and family services nor has any of my immediate family, but I think sometimes they are a necessary organization because there are children in the world who are in bad family situations, and they need someone to be there advocate. But I also think that sometimes people abuse the organization and use it to wrongfully persecuted and separate families just because there angry or because they misinterpreted something that happened in the home. I'm referring to people who call family services without the full facts, and cause unnecessary grief to children and Innocent parent's and sometimes there instances in which the organization made mistakes, but I think they are a necessary organization because children that are really abused need this kind of service to protect them we call them de-fax in my current state. Do I think that the organization is ruining families no, but do I think I that family services makes mistakes yes, but over all I think there a necessary program/services.
• United States
6 Apr 11
NJ is one of the worst. I grew up there and was one of the kids scarred by the system. I have seen many who could have or should have been helped left to their own devices. Yes that was 20 years ago but then I hear things now. A cousin who adopted through the system lied to about the kids, kids who when taken to a counselor where found to be too dangerous to be around younger kids (mind these kids where 7 and 5!) because of a situation that was in the (unshown to my cousin and spouse) files about a horrific experience in their first foster home. The siblings where taken away because of being deemed to dangerous even though my cousin wished to help them or at least try to figure out something. (Two of their kids are natural siblings from the same parents that's why they where trying to get them from the state) This left emotion wreckage all the way around and no one will now tell them what is to or has happened to the kids. Way to go NJ for ruining the lives of a 5 and 7 year olds. So disgusted. Here I do not know the laws have not run into any situation to have to thankfully.
@pjnjclyn (176)
• Newton, New Jersey
6 Apr 11
They lie to everyone and the thing that I can not believe is that they change the rules and laws when they feel like it and do not have to answer to anyone. They can literly tell you one thing today and tell you something else the next hour and it is alright. There has to be something done to help people. There is no support system for familes that is not involved or paid by DYFS so that is not a help to them because all they do is run back to DYFS and tell them things and people do not even feel open enough to tell them anything because of those fears. Then they will tell you for example if you need a new bed for a child they will tell you we will help you get that so the child has a bed then after they do that they write a report and tell their supervisor that you are not able to take care of your child and buy them a bed. They set you up to fail. Do not get me started on what they do to the children or the all the families involved. I know they lie and do not tell anyone what is going on and that even includes the parents when they get them back from foster care and they are all messed up because of what happen to them in the system.
• United States
6 Apr 11
Sadly all too true.
7 Apr 11
but in india its not like that , how many welfares will come for children doesnt work efficent for them . parents are not much enough sound to study their chhilds which leads to move for work in that child age leaving all education and enjoyments happieness ,,,, how disasters to see india like this