Philosophy is so difficult to study

@dream_ozn (1754)
Singapore
May 6, 2011 9:08am CST
Hi all, I am currently studying ethics which is under a branch of philosophy as a module this semester. Have you taken philosophy before? To me, this is really one subject I find extremely difficult to study. Philosophy writers have this way of writing English which makes it very difficult to understand what they are talking about. Anybody have any tips on how to study philosophy?
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10 responses
6 May 11
I am a Philosophy major, but I have my emphasis in Epistomology ('real philsopophy'). It includes branches like Logic (my favorite) and Philosophy of Science. I do have some trouble in areas like Ethics, which are under the Value Theory branch of Philosophy. I dislike Value Theory because it is so subjective. However, it sounds like the trouble you have with ethics is not the actual concepts, just trying to understand what the author is saying. Am I right? Like, if someone would just explain to you what the author is trying to say, do you think you'd get it? If this is the case, I recommend a) looking for Cliff Notes versions of the philosophers you're studying (I assume people like John Stuart Mills, Kant, etc?) b) At the end of every chapter, just write the author's point in one sentence for yourself. If you can't figure it out, ask a tutor or the professor. c) Talk to your professor often! Philosophy professors LOVE to talk about philosophy, and they don't get the chance very often! So if you act interested, they'll probably be more than willing to just sit down with you and state the main points in plain English. Final tip: Most philosophers in Ethics will believe that either a) The ends justify the means, or b) The means justify the ends. Figure out which philosophers belong to which party (eg. Mill is A, Kant is B), and you forget everything else they believe, you can guess a lot based on their position on that one issue. Good luck with your exams! :)
@urbandekay (18278)
7 May 11
Karin... "Ethics will believe that either a) The ends justify the means, or b) The means justify the ends." That amused me; ethics in a nutshell Dream... a quick review of the various ethical positions might help you. Virtue ethics; Key figures, Aristotle, MacIntyre. Key concepts, Eudaimonia. Virtue ethics may be simply understood as the idea that character rather than rules govern ethics; a good man acts for the good. De-ontological ethics; key figure Kant and Ross. Key concepts. Treat others as an end-in-themselves never as a means to an end, make only those ethical rules that you can universalise, i.e. one law for all Consequetialism; Key figures, Bentham, Stuart-Mill, Singer. Key concepts, promote the greatest happiness for all whilst maintaining it is better to be Socrates unhappy that a pig that is happy! Recent trend in ethics include the notion of 'particularism' see Nusbaum And my own area of interest, creative morality all the best urban
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
7 May 11
@ urban. I like how karinxaaa gave the nutshell of ethics as you called it. I like that too. And thanks for classifying the people into deontological and consequentalists. do you major in philosophy? You seem to be very good in it.
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
7 May 11
Yes, it is really very subjective and my lecturer is not helping. and yes, you are right. I think i would definitely get it if someone explains what the author is trying to say because i realise that the authors uses simple words but the way the sentence is structured is slightly different from the English we use. And you are right again. I do study John, Kant etc. Okay, i'll take note to write the author's point in one sentence. i believe that would allow me to understand and remember each of them better. And the means justify the ends or the ends justify the means, has that something to do with consequentalist and deontology? Thank you for your response, it has really deepen my insight to philosophy and your advise really gave me more motivation to study my philo. Thank you!
@lowloy (316)
• United States
6 May 11
for me philosophy is a subject I find interesting because I like to study other peoples views on life and other dynamics. I read an article a couple days ago from autism reserch instute that explained poor and excellant employment for people in the autistic spectrum it was very appropriate read for me since I have AS. Philosophy is not for everyone. It would be interesting for you to see what color your rainbow is and make sure philosophy is appropriate for you to take. I have been told numerous times that social work is not for me since I have AS, but I stuck with it and I am a BSW and this is not good for me, but what is good for is an MSW so I can research. I am not sure how far along you are in your studies, if not far examine your journey to see if you are following the correct path. I wish you success. oh by the way maybe you can get your textbook on cd and listen while you read this will help tremendously if you can obtain one. Ask your professor if he/she knows of a companion cd. and again the best of luck!!!
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
7 May 11
@ lowloy, your response is very interesting with all the short form, such as AS
8 May 11
As a child I was diagnosed with Autism-Spectrum Sensory Integration Dysfunction, which is now called Sensory Perception Disorder. I remember being tested by people I assume were a physical therapist, an occupational therapist, and a psychologist. I had to complete all kinds of different tasks like filling a cup with water (couldn't do), catching a bean bag (couldn't do), putting letters of the alphabet in order (couldn't do), etc. I also had to answer a lot of questions about what sort of things (like feeding and dressing myself) I could or couldn't do. I assume this was some sort of practical test. I don't really know. My freshman year of highschool, all of records from middle school had been lost, so they had to re-test me. They just did an IQ test. IQ is based on many different facets from many different areas; mine ranged from 103 to 158. A gap of more than 50 points between IQs is considered a learning disability in the state of Kansas, even if no IQ is below 100. So i was labeled learning disabled, and they wanted to drop the AS label, but my mom showed them my school agenda, in which I had written everything backwards, and for some reason this convinced them I was still autism spectrum. I label myself high-functioning because... well... I can type this. So I'm clearly not low-functioning, right? I mean, I'm a 3.6 GPA college student, so I must be pretty high functioning, but admittedly, that is a label I have applied to myself. And glad I could help :)
6 May 11
Do you by any chance have the name or the author of that article? I'm high-functioning AS (sensory perception disorder), and would be very interested to read that. I also listen to my textbooks while reading them! I never thought about 'normal' people doing that though. Because AS is considered a learning disability at my university, I get all my textbooks on audio. It is very difficult for me to understand spoken word without lipreading or reading along in the text, but being able to hear the words while I see them is very helpful to me and helps me understand better than just reading.
• Indonesia
7 May 11
I think that philosophy is interesting to be learnt, and it makes me easier to study even though it is a bit difficult. I don't know, I just think it is interesting while others might think it is a difficult subject.
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
7 May 11
To me, it is an interesting subject. But it is definitely a very difficult one to master.
@Cherish14 (2693)
• Philippines
7 May 11
at Davidkwan95, i admire your perseverance yeah i guess one just have to try his/her best to get through all the hardships in life. life isn't easy. good luck to you again Dream_ozn Happy Mylotting
@Cherish14 (2693)
• Philippines
7 May 11
hi dream_ozn, oh gosh i hated Philosophy. i almost failed in that class i had my classmate tutor me. i don't know how they found it easy like they could understand it very well and right away. no matter how i read it and listen to the instructor, i just couldn't get it, still. i guess i wasn't just focusing well hehehhehe but i still think it is a hard subject. i am just glad i am done with college. i just hope Philosophy and I don't bump into each other again someday hahahah
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
7 May 11
I also always how some of my other classmates are able to understand philosophy. Like you, i hated philosophy too. I have been trying my best to listen to the lecturer in all his classes, but it gives me no help. Was i not focusing? Or is the subject really difficult!!! I also never want to see philosophy again!!!
@Cherish14 (2693)
• Philippines
7 May 11
yeah we feel the same. just focus more right now, and try your best. soon you'll get through it good luck on all of your exams
@naija4real (1291)
7 May 11
I studied Business Management at the Univerisity. I do not think there are different way to study philosophy. The basic thing is that you must love the course called philosopy. If you do not love it then you can not concentrate to study it. It is well known that people do well in subject that they love. My question is do you love philosopy? If your answer is yes, then you are half way through your problem. The next thing is for you to buy your books, attend lectures regularly and then jot down everything that the teachers says in the class. Some times you may have to go to the internet to download study materials. you also have to go to the bookshop to buy study materials. It all depends on you and how serious you are?
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
7 May 11
Hi, i am studying business in university currently. Perhaps people have different methods of studying a subject? For me, i don't think i will choose this subject should i have the choice. All students are 'forced' to take this course as it is a core subject of the university. Definitely, people who love whatever they do will excel in it. I do have my textbooks with me, i read them before class, pay attention during class and listen to the lecturer. And thank you for reminding me that i can use the internet to download study materials!
@blacks94 (161)
• Italy
6 May 11
It's kinda difficult in Italian, too, so don't worry about that. I have a method which works for me, but I can't assure you it will work for you too. Draw maps of the concepts you have to learn, then try to create a logical connection between the various elements you have chosen (which, of course, must be the most important ones). Hope this helps!
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
6 May 11
Wow, in Italian. Are you from italy or do you just study philosophy in Italian? Than you for your method, and i will definitely try it out!
@blacks94 (161)
• Italy
7 May 11
I'm from Italy - I believe it would be almost impossible to study philosophy in Italian for someone who doesn't speak italian as a first language. Sometimes I have to look up in the dictionary the meaning of many "philosophical terms"! About some of the comments I have read on this post, I would like to point out that Philosophy IS a subject, and it consists in studying the life and thoughts of philosophers from the origins (Greek philosophers) until present. It may be fascinating for some and extremely boring for others, but remains a subject, and quite an important one. Don't know about other countries, but in Italy it is a compulsory subject in many high schools, where it's taught from the 2nd to the 5th year.
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
7 May 11
It's really cool to be speaking in Italian. i have always wanted to learn that language. I took an introduction to Italian (far from the real italian) and it was extremely difficult. English is my first language and i already find it very difficult to study philosophy and you did philosophy in Italian! Awesome. Indeed, philosophy is a subject and yet, it is really an important one. Like what you said, my school also makes it a compulsory module for all students. I am so lucky to need to take only once but you need to take it for 4 years, from 2nd to the 5th!! GOod luck
@urbandekay (18278)
7 May 11
Philosophy may be hard but it can be the most fascinating of subjects. In a way there are no non-philosophers only good and bad ones, since to be part of a language using community is to contribute to meaning. It must be harder if English is not your first language and often poor philosophers will resort to jargon and technical terms that make the language hard to penetrate for the beginner but don't despair. Most concepts can be explained in fairly simple language by a good teacher. Also, remember philosophy is essentially a practical activity, at least in the English school, which, from the philosophers you mention I presume is what you study, and you can do philosophy with little or no special learning, all you need do is question and keep questioning! If you have any specific question, I am happy to help all the best urban
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
7 May 11
Yes, i do agree with you that it is one of the most fascinating subjects. In my textbooks, there are many philosophers who writes using jargon and technical terms making it all the more difficult to understand who they are trying to argue. I am indeed a beginner but i will listen to your words and not despair. I believe a better teacher for me is the internet rather than my teacher who does not helps at all. Plus, i will remember to keep questioning and questioning! Thank you
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
7 May 11
hi dream ozn I had the best in structor in the world when I was taking all his philosophy classes in junior college. I loved it as he made it make sense to me and he offered ways to check on things and differentiate between what he called bullsh*t and the truth. I think getting a really passionate teacher is the best way to start. also see if there are any web sites on the net that will offer good tutoring in this subject.ethics is a deep really interesting subject and is difficult but once you really get into it it should be fun too.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
7 May 11
I took Philosophy 101 and 102 back in college and it was indeed confusing, from Socrates to Cosmological arguments..lol but if there is one thing i've learned in Philo is that one requires to THINK a lot.
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
7 May 11
I am currently taking what is called to be Philosophy 107 in my school! It really require us to think alot and it is not pure thinking, but thinking in the way of morality which makes it all the more difficult!
@mohdromly (165)
• Malaysia
7 May 11
Learning phylosophy is like learn to see.You must be the philosophy and try to understand what they are trying to tell you.