Lies

Indonesia
November 6, 2011 1:59am CST
Today, I tried to talk about lies. I heard people saying it's fine to do lie on people for the good sake. I knew that lies would be disappointing and hurting if you knew someone told a lie to yourself. I learned a little bit how to detect liar from the way they smile, move and voice. Perhaps, you have ways of revealing lies of someone. Do you think it is allowed to tell a lie to someone for the good sake or whatever, and do you see what's the point to having been told a lie to someone.
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@almond24 (1248)
• Hungary
7 Nov 11
I don't like lies, neither from myself nor from others. But I think it's acceptable sometimes, like when you can protect yourself or someone else in an unfair or dangerous situation with a lie. Or when someone is feeling really down i tell him/her how strong etc. he/she is, even if it is not true, but it's encouraging.
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• Indonesia
7 Nov 11
I don't like to lie. I don't like people to lie to me as well.
@almond24 (1248)
• Hungary
7 Nov 11
I don't like neither lies nor to lie either. Just said some examples where i found that lies have a better purpose and they don't harm.
@Mashnn (4501)
6 Nov 11
Lying in whatever way is not good. It is simply a sin for those who understand God's commandments. I do lie though sometimes, but mostly those white lies.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
6 Nov 11
'white lies'-- what are they? I am not able to make out . I support telling a lie if it can help the listener/receiver.
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• Indonesia
6 Nov 11
What was white lies? Was white lies same as what the other said that to lie was allowed so long it is for the goodness sake, wasn't it ?
@Mashnn (4501)
7 Nov 11
White lies are simple type of lies and mostly you may just say to make someone feel good. Like you are so beautiful yet somehow you want that person to feel good. They do not have much consequences in the long last.
@mjcookie (2271)
• Philippines
7 Nov 11
I try to be honest as much as possible, even if it means me getting into trouble. I am a bad liar, and the moment I tell a lie, even just a small one, I feel VERY bad. Now about telling lies, I think some lies are good if it benefits the other person and the people around, and if in the long run, the lie doesn't cause trouble anymore. I know this is such a vague statement, but that's what I think. Lies that hurt people are bad. Lies that benefit are at least, well, beneficial for people even when lying in general is not a very good thing to do, moral-wise.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
7 Nov 11
Yes you are a bad liar
• Indonesia
7 Nov 11
Is there any useful of telling lies to people? I can't see what's the point to lie to people. I hope you would understand that lies was sin. Lies is lies. Not lies is not lies. That's all I know. Thank you.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
7 Nov 11
I think no one gives a damn about your honest opinion if that will be against their own beliefs .If you are somehow inferior to someone don`t ever tell him/her the truth because it .Tell them you don`t know or you are fine with whatever they are asking.If you are superior to someone or you can afford to lose him/her as a friend then tell them the truth every time no matter how much it hurts or if you want to tell them lies then do that,you won`t lose too much anyway
• Indonesia
7 Nov 11
Okey. It seemed that you were trying to say lies beyond our class. Seeing position when deal with lies was weird. How came ?
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
7 Nov 11
Ok let`s say you have a boss and that one is asking you something like am i smart ? Can you tell him he is an idiot ? Not really.I know there are people that are doing it when they have enough but i was asking about normal people.So you will say yes you are because you are inferior to that person otherwise he will kick your butt. What if you are the boss and one of your workers is asking you the same thing ? Yes you can tell him that he is the stupidest guy you ever seen or you can lie,but it really doesn`t matter because you are superior. This is happening with friends,family...etc.Our entire life is just a war where we are on inferior or superior positions to other people.And no one likes to hear he is wrong i can tell you that.When you are inferior you will risk a lot if you tell the truth no matter how much will hurt the other.When you are superior it doesn`t really matter. So try to see if you are in a superior position before telling people the truth.If you are not then try to tell them a part of the truth and make it in such way that will not hurt them.Or tell them a small lie.And try to become the superior one and then you can tell them the whole truth
@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
6 Nov 11
I don't like lies. I prefer the truth even if it sounds hard or it hurts. I don't like the backstabbing, blaming others or making up stuff to show how great you are and you did surely not a wrong thing. Also I don't think there is a good reason to lie. Don't ask if you can't stand or cope with the answer you get. They say if you talk to someone for 10 min. you hear at least 3 lies. The examples they gave I would not call all a lie (it includes being attentive or giving a compliment although you don't mean it as well). Seems we have the hardest time to find out if our partner is a liar or family we love/like. Although we all are raised to be honest (we get angry if kids tell a lie) most adults lie constantly. Some because they are afraid you get angry, other because they are afraid not to get accepted by a (social) group, others because it's a way to get money/make a living (so you tell someone you love him/her), others because they want to play safe (so you can go on cheating).. I don't see the point of that. I never liked to join a group, I don't like licking heels and I don't mind to be alone, I even love it. But it does mean that you are not popular at all. There are people who admire you because you have the courage to say the truth but they don't want to be friends with you because they are afraid you reputation will come to them too.
• Indonesia
7 Nov 11
I see that people cannot be separated from falsehood or lies. There are two types of lies, they are intentional lies and unintentional lies. I think basically human do not like to lie, but to be honest it takes courage to speak out and most people do not like others people honest. From your side, you aren't prepared to have friends within their lies, it'd better for you to be alone, was what that you say about? You are amazing and I really like your comment. Thank You
@humaira12 (149)
• Indonesia
7 Nov 11
lied for the good is good alibi to lie, i don't like to lie, i don't like also some people who lie. thoughs its for good, becouse let's say with honesty even, though it bitter. thank you :-)
• Indonesia
7 Nov 11
Me too.
@sk66rc (4250)
• United States
6 Nov 11
I personally don't believe in lies myself, weather it's for good or bad... There's an old saying, "road to hell is paved with good intentions".
• Indonesia
6 Nov 11
I think what you say is right. I don't believe that lies has reason for the good sake. Lies is still lies not matter how big or small they are, we cannot change it.
@megamatt (14292)
• United States
7 Nov 11
Lies seem to sadly have become a part of life. And I think that there are times where people have gotten trapped so far into a lie, that they have lost the ability to distinguish the difference between truth and reality. That really is the fact of the matter. There are just many people who might think, a little lie here and there, isn't going to be all that much of a problem. However it can escalate pretty quickly. I've just pretty much given up on holding people to the same standards that I hold myself to. I try to tell the truth when I can most of the time. Of course there are many times where a selective memory can betray you or even having a partial view of the situation. It's not necessarily lying but it is not exactly honest.
@didi13 (2926)
• Romania
6 Nov 11
I think lie together with love, has been the most debated phenomenon along the history. And never elucidated stark, because the thread that connects the truth of the lie is thick and hard to break. A simple lie downgraded to explosions, from the creative to the nuclear. He served as muse poets, because of wars and murders, and eventually remained buried in the archives. Once, when honor and ethical codes meant much, lie expressed by word of duel and became the worst of social relegation. For some reason was sufficient, others in turn, saw opportunity and gain scheming. It seems that the desire, the need was and is so strong that one can not help but resort to lying. Why do it? Lying is rarely elaborate, premeditated. This approach is only practical strategies set behind closed doors. For ordinary people, normal, lying is a gimmick of the moment. Just when it feels "cornered", ie put into situations without immediate exit, turn to lie. Some people have the habit of sharing lies in small and large. No matter how big it is, all lie remains a lie. Lie not weigh after the word, but after consequences. Lie without consequences is innocent. Those who lie too often do not appreciate the consequences of lying. They think that will take effect when they are away. Well, sometimes that happens. Lie has short legs. Liar is unaware of gesture, not even that bad of a lie can make. One is if you do not mind someone you'll never see you again, and another if you lie on the close. Lying almost always hurts. First it hurts the recipient and sender long term. Lying is like a game of dominoes. First comes a piece from fall a hundred. It's a boomerang.
• Indonesia
6 Nov 11
Yes, you're absolutely right how you so blamed the lies as the source of the earth boomerang. According to my point of view, from hundreds countries that exist, people from under developed and developing countries tend to do lying (liar). They are different from people who come from a sophisticated or developed countries. What made them a liar while they who came from developed, they're mostly honest. That's my opinion. List of corrupted countries, it is full of countries from under and developing country. I thought one condition of corrupted country is lies. Lies or not honest is one of many supporting ways of corruption. What do you think?
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
6 Nov 11
If you tell a lie and it will benefit that person --yes please tell that lie. for example doctors may not tell the truth to a patient who is critically ill--that will help him live a few hours/days more. But we should not tell a lie by which we may gain and the other person will lose.
• Indonesia
6 Nov 11
No Way, we cannot tolerate liar. It's a sickness. We have to get totally free from it. I hate if I have to lie. Thank You My Dear Friend and enjoy mylotting. God Bless You.
@sjvg1976 (41131)
• Delhi, India
6 Nov 11
Hello sijabatnaburjut, I don't think telling lie for someone's good is bad and the lie which may harm someone is definitely a sin. I tell lie with my kids when they demand for cold drinks and i know that they are not well and i say that we don't have it then i don't consider it to be wrong. I tell lie with my wife when she becomes adamant to cook food for me being ill and i say that i am not feeling hungry today then i don't think that i did anything wrong. So it depends on the situation and not necessary that we do sin every time when we lie.
• Indonesia
6 Nov 11
Yeah, that's what I meant to say about telling a lie for good sake. I have ever heard a story where there was a thieve who stole from the rich and given the result of his robbing to the poorer. He never told how he work to poorer but so much money, but he'd saved thousand of people. It's good, isn't it ?
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