Romanian stray dogs to be slaughtered
By Liliac26
@Liliac26 (557)
Romania
November 24, 2011 11:10pm CST
A law was passed on Tuesday in Romania that would allow for thousands of stray dogs to be killed. There is a huge dog problem here: there are a lot of dogs on the streets and people have been attacked. This problem has been going on for years now. Killing (euthanasia they call it) was used before and did not help. Animal protection groups have done everything to make people understand that neutering the animals is the only solution, but in vain. Politicians from the governing party have gathered a huge number of signatures from the population in favour of the law (they did this by various means, including lying and manipulation). The law is in their interest because they want to use it as political propaganda. Also, there are interest groups that will make money out of killing the animals.
Now, the problem of the strays really needs to be solved. However, I strongly believe that murdering innocent animals isn't the solution (and could never be a solution to anything). What do you think? Do you think that this law is moral? Could this ever happen in your own country?
The law still needs to be ratified by the president and there is a petition against it going on, but I don't think I'm allowed to post the link here. If I am, please tell me (if not, but you still want to help, you could PM me).
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9 responses
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
28 Nov 11
You know we can't do anything to change Basescu's decision. I have no doubt that he will ratify the law. You know his history as major of Bucharest.
We can gather signatures hoping that this will help but...
I don't know what are our chances when the local communities will have to vote for or against strays' euthanasia.
In my town, most of the strays have been neutered with the help of a NGO and a warm-hearted vet who did most of the surgeries pro bono. 
But you know it's a never-ending job. New strays appear all the time, being abandoned by people who don't want them any more.
Even so, our major came out on the local TV and said he will vote for euthanasia.
We can gather signatures hoping that this will help but...
I don't know what are our chances when the local communities will have to vote for or against strays' euthanasia.
In my town, most of the strays have been neutered with the help of a NGO and a warm-hearted vet who did most of the surgeries pro bono.
But you know it's a never-ending job. New strays appear all the time, being abandoned by people who don't want them any more.
Even so, our major came out on the local TV and said he will vote for euthanasia.2 people like this
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
30 Nov 11
Of course this is the reason why we don't have problems with strays: we love them and they can feel this.
I don't know about those who complain they "live in the fear". I have a neighbor that is terrified by any dog, no matter the size. He nearly faints when he meets us (me and my dog) on the staircase. What use will be if he votes for killing the strays? He will still live in the fear.
@Liliac26 (557)
• Romania
29 Nov 11
I know Basescu's history. But I just can't abandon hope like that. The mayor of my sector also said he supports euthanasia, although the general mayor doesn't. Maybe the law will be rejected by the Constitutional Court (as it is very much unconstitutional). I need to hope.
As for the local community, I don't know. I know people that are very much against this, but so many others complain they have been bitten, they live in fear, can't sleep at night, can't have guests around, and so on. And I do believe them, though none of these things happen to me (and there are at least 20 dogs living around my building and many more in the neighbourhood - maybe I don't get attacked because I love dogs). But they should be made to understand that killing is not the way to get rid of this problem.
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@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
This is a really sad news, I don't know how big Romania's problem about stray dogs but I believe there is no understandable reason to kill innocent animals, they should think of other ways to control dog's population but not through that way. I hope people in Romania will not allow this to happen, it's so cruel.
By the way regarding your concern about putting a link in the discussion, mylot allow as to put a link that is related to the topic (as long as it is not a referral link) so readers can get more information about the topic being discussed.
@Liliac26 (557)
• Romania
25 Nov 11
It's big. There's some 40,000 strays in Bucharest alone. But killing won't solve anything. They have tried it before and it failed. But many Romanians refuse to acknowledge that.
Here's the link:
http://www.four-paws.org.uk/website/output.php?id=1273&idcontent=2661&language=1
@Liliac26 (557)
• Romania
25 Nov 11
Yes, that's true. But most local authorities will choose to kill them. The mayor where I live (which is the area of Bucharest with the most stray dogs) has already announced in the media that he plans to kill them. Most of those dogs are not in the least aggressive, no matter what anyone says. I've been living there for ten years and I've never been attacked. This doesn't mean they should leave them on the streets. But they should find a moral solution to deal with this.
And adoptions are made impossible. Most people cannot fulfil those conditions.
@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
25 Nov 11
Hi there... I agree that stray dogs are a problematic. They're dangerous and when over populated, then can become a menace... But killing them wholesale wouldn't be a good idea... They should make something good out of it... Like they should create a large dog house or something like that full of cages, for these dogs...
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Nov 11
hi liliac 26 I hate that, poor dogs. there has to be a better solution. People who take pets then decide they do not want them and dump them on the countryside should be punished. people need to
be educated to take care of their pets and neuter them so they willnot have more dogs than they can afford to care fir,I don't think I have ever heard of a huge dog problem that made the government want to kill huge numbers of stray dogs. usually we have this with cats but there are many people who are willing to save feral cats. this slaughter of stray dogs really is so horrible. they are living creatures created by God and not just rubbish to discarded like a bunch of old shoes all worn out. these are living animals and should not be killed l like that. Cannot enough Romanian people insist on stopping this assassination before it becomes a tragic reality?
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@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
28 Nov 11
Unfortunately there is a small chance to solve the problem.
Most strays come from people who abandon the puppies after their dog gave birth. There are too many people who think it's easier to abandon the puppies somewhere in the town instead of neutering their dogs. If such people are asked if stray dogs should be euthanized or not, they will be the first to answer "yes".
Most strays come from people who abandon the puppies after their dog gave birth. There are too many people who think it's easier to abandon the puppies somewhere in the town instead of neutering their dogs. If such people are asked if stray dogs should be euthanized or not, they will be the first to answer "yes".1 person likes this
@Liliac26 (557)
• Romania
25 Nov 11
I hate it too. People who abandon pets should receive large fines. As long as animals continue to be abandoned, this will never stop. I really don't know how to answer your last question. I definitely hope we can, but the situation doesn't look very promising...
@phillyguy (3005)
• Philippines
25 Nov 11
It's not a law yet and it shouldn't be, people of Romania should do something about it, law is not just for humans welfare alone, government should always consider the welfare of animals too.
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@Liliac26 (557)
• Romania
25 Nov 11
Unfortunately the law has already passed. It only remains for the president to sanction it. Animal lovers will continue to protest, so maybe there is still hope. You're right, nothing good will come of it, I just wish more people will understand this.
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@dainy1313 (2370)
• Leon, Mexico
25 Nov 11
It´s very very sad, that human beings kill any life. Here in my country occurs, and is very sad and hard to me to even think about so such pain to the dogs. My God, but I think I cann´t help, so I think that those innocent beings will rest in peace with God, and they will stop suffering on earth =( (it´s so sad)
=(
Blessings... Dainy
@dainy1313 (2370)
• Leon, Mexico
10 Dec 11
Today I am so sad because a nasty rate ate 6 of my loved innocent canaries. Never before happened this to my birds. I´ll buy new birds, and some locks for their cages. =( I feel so sad, I think about the innocence of them. I´ve already prayed our Lord for them. =(
The thing that hurts is the innocence of the animals. It´s a blessed innocence.
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
26 Nov 11
Well, it does sound horrible to kill all those animals- maybe the government is just lazy and want the problem solved now than waiting for the dogs to die off... But since people were already attacked, a solution must b made immediately, they should just put the dogs in a dog pound and neuter them, why can't some people adopt smce of the dogs too?
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
28 Nov 11
Adoptions go very slow here, Stanley. Dog lovers already have at least one dog but they just can't take home all the strays. There are too many of them. They must have done something years ago. Instead, the authorities let the problem become worse and now they claim they are forced to adopt such drastic measures.
There are too many of them. They must have done something years ago. Instead, the authorities let the problem become worse and now they claim they are forced to adopt such drastic measures.2 people like this
@Liliac26 (557)
• Romania
26 Nov 11
The government has fought for this law. It took a long time for it to pass (and I was even naive enough to think it won't). If they wanted this to be solved quickly, they should have worked with the animal groups, not against them, for a solution everyone would have agreed to. This problem should have been solved years ago.
Thanks for your reply!
@joystick (1675)
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26 Nov 11
That is really sad.I think that all countries should have a law where people get fined, if they do not have their pets micro chipped, that way if a persons pet gets lost stolen they get to have their pet back and if they have dumped it they get fined.All the fine money, could then be used half for shelters and the other half for the governing party, that way every person would be happy, also less animals would end up being treated cruely.I also think that fines for over breeding as well, would be good.Less animals killed that way, as well as less people neglecting animals.
@Liliac26 (557)
• Romania
26 Nov 11
That would be a solution, yes. The stray dogs will be chipped, as far as I'm aware, but then they will still be killed if not adopted. And the law makes adoptions almost impossible. I absolutely agree about the fines. One of the things that bother me the most is that these dogs are on the streets because of people and most of us still don't want to take responsibility.
Thanks for your reply!
