15-yr-old Chennai boy stabs teacher to death in classroom

@ravisivan (14079)
India
February 9, 2012 9:50am CST
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/15-yr-old-Chennai-boy-stabs-teacher-to-death-in-classroom/articleshow/11821865.cms Please see the above link. it says a boy of 15 year old stabbed his teacher and killed her while she was taking a class. it is said he killed her due to anger for her scolding him. Parents must educate children to control their anger. They should also advise them to behave properly in schools and respect the teachers.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Feb 12
hi ravisivan Oh my I thought things like this happned only in our American schools. I so often wonder what triggers such violence in a teen ager. Fifteen and already a killer its so shocking and yet it has happened in our schools here too.What is happening to students respecting teachers and teachers not picking on students? when I went to high school we had been taught to respect and obey our teachers. Now teens here come to school disrespecting anything the teachers say. They text each other, they talk about how boring school is.They do not listen to the teachers lectures and seem to think its all a big joke.I am wondering if some of this is because the kids at home are not taught to behave well in school and to pay attention to their teachers. A lot of teens here in the US. have both parents working and I sometimes wonder if the parents ever even try to teach their teens to pay attention in class and have respect for their teachers.I know some teens do not see their parents except at dinner and nobody seems to care how the teens are doing in school. I do not ever remember students hurting teachers or shooting class mates when I was in school .we did have respect for out teachers and our parents were really interested in how we were doing in out school work.If I'was not doing well in a class my mom and dad would talk to me and to my teachers. they cared how I was doing and were really happy when I made good grades. How things have changed now. sad to see.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 12
Hatley aunty: thanks for your detailed response. Respect for teachers --it is very less. In fact yesterday in an engineering college class --a boy was disturbing quite often and not taking notes. I gave pat on his back. Now when I read this report --I have to be cautious with students. The school where the boy killed the teacher is also in my city. I may not scold the students hereafter.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
10 Feb 12
Sadly Hatley, this also happens in my country. Gone are the days where we have total respect with our teachers. We might not give our full respect to some teachers before, but we see to it that whenever they are around, we treat them like our parents too. Parents are also one to blame as they lack guidance and they should at least talk to them if they find them a bit different than normal.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 12
enelmy-- super point. perhaps you have children going to school . Parents should talk to children when they find the behaviour of child is different from the routine. they should guide the children properly.
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• Philippines
10 Feb 12
This is not a good story to tell,but sad .I agree that some kids today are not in good discipline because it is parents fault. They do not teach their kids in the young age,and that is the result of no education for child. Its so bad ,how this boy can do that,maybe that is Satan speak to im so he an stab the teacher and that is because of anger,hatred satan's attitude.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 12
an important point. All these years for ages together teaching profession is considered as a very safe profession--i.e. with less occupational hazards. Now there is problem in this field also. I will be more careful in scolding children hereafter.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 12
You are also 16 year old only. You do not go to school because of the scolding by teachers. Please learn some craft and try to improve your expertise.
@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
9 Feb 12
I am not sure who we should blame for this as there are many factors contribute for it to happen. It is normal for teachers to be strict to their students and I agree that youth are less patience and lack of self awareness when it come to controlling their emotions. There are many incidents like this happened here and it mostly because they can't control their anger. I doubt if they even know what is right and wrong to do in their life~
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@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
12 Feb 12
That is what I mean..We should start to teach and guide them from early age. I admit that adults did most of the crimes but it always got something to do with their background-some found it as innocent action when they did it in their early years...(^^)
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
12 Feb 12
If anger management is taught in schools and colleges it will go a long way.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 12
CT Hanum : We adults are lose patience. Sometimes we hit the other. But it should be on a low level. Parents should teach the children about tolerance right from from the beginning.
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@sjvg1976 (41131)
• Delhi, India
10 Feb 12
Hello ravisivan, Its really shocking for me. I in my time always treated teachers like my parents and never thought of trouble them anytime. I wonder in country like INDIA where EKLAVYA was born and people do give lots of respect to teachers can have such an incident.Its really shocking!!
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
12 Feb 12
Exactly -- ours is a country where teachers are regarded next to mother and father.--"Matha, pitha, guru deivam". the life not only that boy's family but also the teacher's family is ruined. God should help them come out of this crisis.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
10 Feb 12
This is a sad news. Things like this happened also in my country and I can't help but feel sad and angry over these kids. I don't know what is happening with the youth of today. Most of them don't have respect with their professors and just stab and kill them. That is why I am supporting lowering the age of criminal liability from 15 years old to 9 years old.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
12 Feb 12
In India it is 18 years. Upto 18 years they are treated as minor and hence no severe punishment is given. You are right the criminal liability age should be reduced from 18 to 12. 9 may be very low in my view.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
Yes I also think age 9 is still very low. It was only thought of when some 9 year old kids raped an even younger kid. So for me, when such is the case - I would not treat it as a 9 year old.
@dharanil (319)
• India
9 Feb 12
This incident shows how India is now !. I will say Movies and televisions are responsible for these kinds of incidents. Violence in movies makes others to attempt the same. Government must tighten rules regarding permitting violent movies and it will reduce these kinds of crimes.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 12
dharanil -- movies and television are responsible for this state of affairs. Parents should see that upto 10 years at least children see only cartoons and comedy movies.
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@dharanil (319)
• India
11 Feb 12
Yea, Parents have to see their children up to 10 to 14 years. During the investigation the boy said Movie " Agneepath " inspired him to do the murder.
@GardenGerty (157615)
• United States
9 Feb 12
Yes, I think that the problem begins in the home.It is too bad. Many schools are now using metal detectors to prevent students from bringing weapons to school.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 12
This is a news for me. We go to different colleges for taking classes. They check by looking into the car and enquiring details. So far they do not check the bags.
@jaiho2009 (39142)
• Philippines
9 Feb 12
hello ravi, I do believed that great foundation of child's behavior start from home. Somehow the environment gives a good contribution with every child's behavior and changes with their attitude. or maybe, the boy is undergoing some pressure at home itself that he doesn't have anyone to confide with. Like what the other students says "the boy is a silent type and do not mingle with other students" that means he is disturbed- but doesn't have any friend to talk with. This is really sad :(
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 12
yes. we have to teach children to tolerate or bear NO from parents. parents should not give everything to the children immediately. We should delay and give.
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@surekharathi (14146)
• India
9 Feb 12
Uncle two second before I also read this news in yahoo and start the discussion and after uploading the discussion I read your discussion. Why new generation students or child has no patience. Yes the students should respect the teachers.
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 12
surekha: You are also a teacher . I am teacher. So we have to be more careful. I have decided not to scold students hereafter. It is ok for you to start a discussion. You might have analysed from a different angle. Further different friends will be responding your discussion and my discussion. How is son-in-law? (hope he is doing well in his institute)
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@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
10 Feb 12
some of the parents are truly trying to educate their children about anger management or the like, but if those children sees the frequent quarrels of their parents, then their children attitude also absorbed
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
11 Feb 12
yes. parents should set an example to children. they should not fight frequently in the presence of children.
@Rick1950 (1575)
• Lima, Peru
9 Feb 12
Hi Sivan, you're right; parents should educate their children. In this case it seems that the parents of this child were bad and the child has learned to be angry like his parents. The place where we have been educated is our home and during the first years our life. Also there are exceptions as that a child could become bad although his parents were good persons. In my country we are having too cases of violence made by kids. It's a pity and a big problem.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
11 Feb 12
In this case it is told that the boy has failed in a few subjects and comments were written in his note books. This boy had planned and committed murder. His life is spoilt. The life of family of teacher is also ruined.
@kundanraj (660)
• India
9 Feb 12
Although much of the details is not in the news but i hqd understand so far that it was teacher's fault which maker him angy and he did this. Though murder can't be solution to scolding what teacher do but i am in favour of boy. as in the conversation of student it is said that he never used to mingle with others, which means he was so forced by the lady teacher and was treated badly verybadly. A student must respect teacher but it doesn't mean teacher's have right to do do any thing with them. If teacher treat with love each of studen them self respect them. Respect is acqiured not forcly gained. Poor boy..... What more to say of him!!!!
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
11 Feb 12
If a teacher is strict though he teaches well the class is not received well. If a teacher is lenient students take more advantage and give trouble. Via media approach is to be followed.
• Philippines
10 Feb 12
Omg! This is unbelievable news I've heard. I hope parents teach their children with a proper respect to those elder.
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@myzhian (584)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
This is so horrible, wherein young people committed crime at a very minor age. If this will alleged to all the youth our nation will be hopeless. Parents and teachers must learn how to importance of teachings the moral and spiritual values to their children or student. I suggest that schools should also give some seminars and discussion for parents, students and teachers that will help them be a more responsible citizen and god fearing people. I noticed that many of our institutional education are lacking guidance with their students, and so with the parents never give enough attention to their kids!
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
12 Feb 12
This lady who was killed is from my place. I came to know of it just a few minutes back when I read a local paper--Mylapore Times. She is survived by her husband and two daughters. It is a big blow for the family.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
12 Feb 12
welcome to mylot--you are from Caloocan city, Philipines -- Hope it is a nice place to live-- Chennai where I am staying is on the sea shore -- Bay of Bengal and is capital of Tamil Nadu. Here power crisis is the problem. Hope you do not have power shortage in your place.
@myzhian (584)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
hello my friend. We often times experience power crises here, it is only during typhoon or some technical issues! Thanks for the comment!
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
18 Feb 12
This is a world wide problem I believe. There is no longer any discipline in the home. Parents are weak, giving into the whims of the children in all areas. There is no respect taught for themselves or their family or teachers or peers. Many children are unable to control themselves because they have not been taught how to behave. I should say this is not every child in every family but standards have certainly dropped. Children need discipline! They need to have limits set.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
18 Feb 12
Ms Tickle -- I agree with you. Today I was in a college in the suburb of Chennai. Morning sessions which consisted fully of girls went on nicely. they participated well. In the afternoon I went to civil engineering 4th year. At 1.30 pm there were 45 students. the lecturer came and took the attendance and left around 1.35 pm. Immediately about 18 students left the class. I did not stop them. The class went on nicely after that. I was taking placement training class for them. discipline of students is at low ebb in spite of the college authorities being strict.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
10 Feb 12
No that's not going to help now. See, what matters is what happens to the 15 year old kid. If he gets off easy, the other 15 years olds will see what happens, and know they can get away with it. At that point, nothing your parents are going to say, is going to fix that.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
11 Feb 12
I don't know. Here in America we do not pressure our children to study and work. The result has been that they don't study, they don't work. They become adults that are not educated. They live off of welfare and the hard work of others. They produce nothing in their lives, and waste away as useless people. They become 40 year old people, who still don't know how to live on their own. Do not know how to take responsibility for their lives. Do not know how to work, and earn a living. Children need direction to be an adult. So you need to push them to succeed. For their own good. If you stop doing that, you'll end up regretting it in just 15 years.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
11 Feb 12
This boy did not attempt to escape after killing his teacher. he has been sent to juvenile home. He will be in home for three year or more and later on has to be accepted by the society. Now I believe let us leave the children and other students to their own level and not pressurise them to study more and more.
@umabharti (3972)
• India
10 Feb 12
Teachers should also learn how to treat the students and how to have patience in teaching them .I dont say that the kid was not wrong .When an incident takes place it does not happen with only one person being the cause.There are many who get involved in that incident.The parents should love and teach the kids ,this is the first thing.The boy was getting one hundred for his pocket money.Why does a school going kid need that amount.May be we can say that he eats out his breakfast,lunch and evening snacks,and when there is no school transport he gets home with some other vehicle . Whom can we say that they are wrong.The kid is innocent.The people around him teach many things.Why can not it be the movie which can influnce him doing so,if that is the case then the director and the casting of the film are also involved in his wrong doing. The teacher she might having problems also,and they can make her behave in that way. The society,the culture,the system overall can be the reason for such incidents.I dont say the kid is wrong he is still young and do not know the world.He could not control his anger .So he did that.And he did not even know fear or the value of life.So he killed.Its not that easy to kill a person and stand over there without running off.Anyways what ever happened has happened and the boys life is gone forever under a criminal list. We can just discuss on these issues none other we can do.
@umabharti (3972)
• India
11 Feb 12
Women are not practical they try using oral words to hurt and show up their anger,they talk what ever they like when they are angry so this hurts Men.But Men are practical ,they use their physical strength to show their anger and hurt women so when men show their strength on women ,women respond in this way using their mouth. Done know what sort of pressures are giving by the Private school to make the teacher scold the boy so much. Dont know what kind of pressure is on the boy from his parents and society that he can not control his anger. Actually we all are responsible for this incident.We all should learn that being in a society we should treat others the same way as we are. When we see kids behaving abnormal we try to pull out more and more mistakes from him or her,which in result can cause such disasters. Pressures are on every one.There is stress all over.No one is in a calm state.Every one are running in the race of life.The result sometimes shows in such incidents.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 12
Umabharti: You are right. The boy's life is doomed. He is sent to juvenile home for correction. Case will go on for years. Imagine the plight of teacher's family. what a great set back. --a big blow to her husband, children. Teacher should show more patience and be kind to children. Why we teachers get anger? If the same behaviour is exhibited by kids , teachers do not get anger. But the grown ups knowing fully well what they are doing, indulge in "arrow thowing, chalk throwing, making noise like animals, playing cell phones loudly"--these cause anger. occasionally we resort to scolding -- boys get offended when scolded before girls. True emotions build up over a length of time and finally bursts.
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@Mashnn (4501)
10 Feb 12
A sad story indeed. I thinkk most of these children who turns to be violent has to do with the way they are brought up, no family support or no one to advise such a child on the best way to handle such issues.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
12 Feb 12
yes. it is very sad to read this news. How are you? Hope you are doing well. Children should be told to handle negative feed back properly.
@Mashnn (4501)
13 Feb 12
Iam doing fine just as hard as I can. What about you? Indeed, we are failing as parents and then we blame the media or the world when problems arise.
@olliekobra1 (1825)
10 Feb 12
sadly this is happening more and more, there needs to be tighter regulations in schools so students cant get weapons into class ,discipline also needs to be started at home by the parents.
@ravisivan (14079)
• India
12 Feb 12
welcome to mylot. You are from UK. Anger management is very important in one's life. Even I use to find it difficult to manage anger at times. How I wish God guides me and others to manage our anger well.