How do you tell them to leave?

@choybel (5042)
Philippines
June 24, 2012 2:10am CST
I am in this situation right now, where I have to ask my friends to leave. So here's the whole thing. I have been renting a house with four rooms for about a year now. I mentioned this to a friend who became interested in staying with me. It was all good at the beginning. He was a party person and I am not really that type. I can mingle but I choose to be doing other things more. He is an active member of their fraternity and I just despise the ways of fraternities in this country. So, what I am saying typically is that we are just two very different people who are friends. So over the year, he has brought many friends over, which some have eventually became my friends as well. Some of them started to live here as well, without even proper permission from me. It started with one sleepover until it turned into weeks then to months. There was really no problem with all these except when the bills came. It would be fair if they would at least share some of the burden, but it just seem so hard for them to do that. I have also problems dealing with the mess and some of the types of people he brings home with. I have talked to him and them about these and there just isn't any improvement on their part. I grew tired of this so now, I just want them out. I am just tired of them being irresponsible and all the abuse of my kindness. Now, how do I tell him that I just want them(his friends and him) out. He's been a friend of mine for long and I do not want to mess that up but I think it's inevitable at this point, right? So, do any of you have a good way at dealing with this? Any of you ever had to go through something like this? Any help would really be appreciated. Thanks!
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17 responses
@kkaria309 (297)
• United States
24 Jun 12
I think money should never come in between friends. And you say this guy has become your friend, right? So that means you get up front, and ask him for the money he and his friends owe you. Get that out of the way first so that the friendship does not suffer because of it later. I have seen the best of friends become enemies over money, and I would pay my friends every single buck I owe her the minute I get the chance, because I don't want her to resent me later, and not being able to ask, because I am her friend. Second problem of yours can be solved by the same way. Be nice and explain everything. Tell him, dude, this is not working out, and I don't like people living here without my permission. Tell him you are not a great party-person and you would like him to move out, please, because he did not improve anything when you told him before. Do not get moved from your decision if he says he will make an effort now, even if he swears on it. He did not do it once, and he is not going to improve now either. Maybe he will resent you for a while, but you have make sure he knows that this is about the living situation and he will still be your friend. If you can, help him find another place. Be helpful, but stay firm in your decision. And do not delay this, because the resentment will increase and situation can get more complex for you and him.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
It went well, I must assume. I had a brief chat with him last night as he was about to leave the house. I made things clear and said that I hope this decision doesn't put our friendship to an end. He did say he understood me and said he will be packing up and leaving this week.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
You are right. I just agree with you all the way. Money should never be the issue between friends, that is why I never had the heart to ask them or him for it. I just thought that maybe they would realize it. I did talk to them about the bills and everything and it didn't seem to work. I don't want to make him feel that he owes me anything so it would just be better to let him leave. I think I will just have to accumulate enough courage to tell him personally that I have decided that it would be best for him to leave, of course in the nicest way I can. I just really wish this wouldn't put a dent in our friendship. I definitely plan on doing this as soon as possible, probably tonight.
• United States
24 Jun 12
All the best. Do let us know how it works out. It is always good to know how people react, and I would also like to know how you handle such a delicate situation.
@garson (884)
• United States
16 Jul 12
I thought fraternities and sororities are US thing. Interesting that they exist in Phillipines. Do they occur because of US influence in the past? This is a classic roommate/housemate situation, which happens to many college students. If I may ask: Do you own the house? If you own or rent the house, did you sign a lease with your housemate? I don't know if this practice is common in Philippine or not. If your housemate is on a lease/contract, then you can confront him that he can stay there anymore. It may sound easy to say like many comments here, but among good friends, you just have to confront this with him. As part of learning to communicate, to become assertive, to take control of things, etc, you just have to keep trying to get the message across. Hopefully, you don't need to take drastic move.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
16 Jul 12
I don't know if it's an influence from the past but I do know they existed since way before I was born. I rented the whole house and there was no contract when he stayed, I just agreed. We have been friends way back and I didn't think it would be a problem. I guess I became to lax and so he thought everything was okay his way. I did confront him several times and it didn't seem to make any effect that lasted long. Anyway, the whole thing is settled now. I somehow managed to ask him out without getting our friendship in real trouble, so I guess it went okay.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
31 Jul 12
It is actually the problem I am facing right now, the bills.
@garson (884)
• United States
30 Jul 12
When I was in college years ago, I made a stupid mistake renting a whole house by myself. I would never do that again unless I can really afford it. Still, it depends on your ability to pay rent regardless.
@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
I think you have to talk to them or even with your own friend whats the problems you have. In other way if they don't want to listen and pay, you can cut the electricity for they can live there anymore which the worst and least you can do about it. But if you can compromise with them in good condition you should try it out. Good luck!
@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
Wow really what a surprised. But did they pay the bills? How come you can live there without electricity and water?
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Oh you would be surprised. For three months I left the house without electricity and water, thinking that they would stop living there and they just continued to stay. I did talk to them and there was no major change after that. Right now, the best thing I can think of is letting them leave. If only it was that easy.
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@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
They didn't. I had to pay it when I decided to return. They slept here and just continued living. I don't know how they managed but they did.
@celticeagle (159359)
• Boise, Idaho
25 Jun 12
I think he saw you as a person he could walk all over and has. You need to set down some strict rules and boundaries. Set down with him and express what you have here. You have to or just continue to put up with this behavior. I hope you have a lease because the only other thing you can do is wait until the lease comes up for renewal and have him put on it. Then he is libal for the bills as well as you are. THen, by law, if he doesn't do his part you can take him to court.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
I don't think I have the heart to bring a friend to a court for matters like this. I did set rules and boundaries but they have not mattered to him as I have noticed, so now the best decision for me was to let them leave the house. We did talk about it last night and thankfully t went well. We had no hard feelings between us over this matter, and he agreed to leave this week.
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@celticeagle (159359)
• Boise, Idaho
27 Jun 12
That must be a great relief to you. I am glad to hear all went well.
@Shellyann36 (11385)
• United States
2 Jul 12
I am afraid that here in my state if you have this problem you have to go to court and formally evict the person living with you. Here if a person has stayed in your home for ten days straight and has any belongings there they are considered a resident. The court process is a tedious process and here it is the law if the person is not willing to leave on their own. Good luck with this. I think you have been straight forward with this person and that is the best way. He has been taking advantage of your kindness for a long time. You have to ask yourself this question: Is this person really your FRIEND?
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
2 Jul 12
I have settled the issue and everything is okay now. I am relieved that the friendship we have did not have any negative effect because of this. It was not easy but what needs to be done was done. Thank you very much for your response. I have learned something new today and that is a little bit of something about your state law. Thanks again and happy mylotting!
@Shellyann36 (11385)
• United States
2 Jul 12
I am glad it worked out so well for you!
@chicgale (2982)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Just tell them honestly, because they are not visitors anymore. Visitors only stay 3 days maximum. Since they are staying there for months, you should atleast tell them to share something like foods, electric bills and a little bit of the rent. Maybe they think that it is just OK with you that they are staying there for free because you didn't tell them.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
I actually told his friends already and they have left, now it's him that I couldn't tell in person yet. I did text him about it a while ago, but I just want to explain this to him in person, upfront. I want to do this doing the least damage to our friendship possible. I just want him out. I have told him before about the bills and everything and I believe he is old enough to know responsibility but it didn't quite get into him. I believe that the best move is just to ask him to leave.
@chicgale (2982)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
Yes, you should tell him upfront so that he will know. If he will not understand and will get mad about it, that means he is not a good friend.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
I had a brief talk with him last night as he was about to leave the house going somewhere again. I did explain to him the reason and everything went well, at least that's how I feel it did. I told him I just hope there would be no hard feelings between us about this and he did say that he understands.
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
25 Jun 12
I see that you have already tried talking to them, so I would just tell them it is time for them to find somewhere else to live. It is not working out. You are not a free ride.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
26 Jun 12
That is probably what I told him, only in a nicer way.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
7 Jul 12
C'mon, wake up! He is taking advantage of your friendship and he's using you deliberately. Friends do not do that~! Would you ever act this way towards anyone? Let alone someone you consider a close friend?? NO, you would not. So you need to get used to the idea that there is no friendship here. It's in his best interest to be nice to you and whatever so he continue to abuse you. Make some new friends and before you rent out any rooms, get references and a bond.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
7 Jul 12
We have been friends for a long time now, even way before we shared a house so I wouldn't want to just throw something like that over matters like this without trying to fix it first. Anyway, the issue has been resolved and fortunately everything went well, that's considering that I was able to ask him to leave nicely and made no dent to our friendship.
• United States
25 Jun 12
You can either just be honest and say what's on your mind and that things are not working out. No one is respectful of your home, no one contributes to the bills, and no one picks up after themselves and it has to stop. Give them a short notice and ask to do what you ask of them or to please find elsewhere to live. Or you could lie and say your landlord noticed too many people staying at your place and had advised you to have the extras be removed or you would be put out. (and in many cases this is true, if people are staying there and are not on the lease you can get evicted).
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
Well, I had to be honest during our short chat last night. I expressed how things went and how I felt about it. I told him that it would be best that if he leaves as I am planning to let the room be rented. He agreed and promised to leave this week. I am just thankful that it did not ruin our friendship at all.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
That is a dilemma.. maybe you should really talk to him seriously about this, as bills are serious.. i mean who wants to pay for all of it when they also consumed right? so go and talk to him you have the right as it is your house.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
I did talk to him about it last night and it was settled. He promised to leave within this week. We made sure though that there would be no hard feeling between us about this. I told him he could come visit anytime.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
good that he was able to accept it choy and no problem occurred.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
29 Jun 12
Sounds like they have put you in a very uncomfortable situation. It is admirable that you are still considering your friendships and their feelings after that kind of blatant disrespect. It may come to the point where you just have to tell them. Sometimes people don't hear you when you are too nice. I hate that too. Remember though...you are not the one that caused the issue. They are. It's not your fault you have to address it. Sounds like they have put you in a position where there are limited choices.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
29 Jun 12
It was not easy but I am relieved it is over now. I had talked to them and it's all done now. I explained that I wanted no hard feelings about this and it was agreed, which was also the good part of it.
@bjc66bjc (6730)
• United States
25 Jun 12
wow choybel, If this person is a really good friend as you indicated there should be no problem just coming right out with your request to him...I am sure if they have not abided by your rules and request they should be expecting something like this to be addressed eventually...There should be no hard feeling or anythng, because if he really cared they would have adhered to your request about helping out with the bills and being reponsible with maintaining the household. Thats the least they could do...I would suggest you clean your house of the "heavy loads" and move on...otherwise it will most likely continue...remember you can do bad all by yourself...They need to help you or get to stepping..... out of your home.... DON'T LET PEOPLE USE YOU,,,THEY WILL USE YOU UP!!!!!!!
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
They sometimes helped with the household choirs but it is usually their mess they fix afterwards, so it's expected, but there are times when they don't do this at all and I just feel violated or disrespected. I also had to remind them time after time of switching off the lights and unplugging their gadgets when not in use. It just came to this point where nothing I say will matter and I just want them to leave. Fortunately, we had a brief chat last night and I explained to him about how I felt and that he should move out. It went well as he just accepted my decision. I had to tell him that I hope this doesn't affect our friendship and no hard feelings would be born from this, and he agreed.
@keoni108 (42)
• United States
24 Jun 12
You need to help them back on their feet. You may have heard this from somewhere. You need to help them get a job, even its a part time job. They need to start helping out with the bills, buying food, etc. When they have a stable, well paying job, then you can ask them to move out. If they refuse to even get a job, you need to stop doing things for them. Stop buying food, stop taking them places, etc. They will eventually get tired of living that way. Another option is to kick them out. Its a harsher version of what I just said. When you kick them out, uou need to make a point that they have been taking advantage of you for too long, or they will think you are an meanie (swear words are blocked :p), and you will feel bad too. I despise just brings in people, mooching off of your money.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
I wish it would be that easy. I am already having a hard time helping myself up, hence the reason I want them to leave. It's not that they are actually homeless, they just like living here as it is free and they can party anytime they want, which is almost like every time. I did get the chance to talk to him last night and we settled that he leaves the house this week. I'm relieved that it went well and didn't really went to extremes, as I feared.
• Philippines
5 Jul 12
how about, try to confront him that he and his friends are now becoming a burden for you? that you cannot pay all the payments? That if they won't share an amount for your bills they really need to leave? If this did not work. Try throwing their stuff out of the house(Joke :D) Well, I think,confronting is still the best answer.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
5 Jul 12
We have already resolved this matter and indeed there was a confrontation. It went well so I'm thankful for that. I didn't really want to ruin our friendship over this.
@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
I think you should be mad at him for a while. It actually helps you know, if he is a real friend he can understand your situation. Be mad and then talk to him seriously. It will always be tough for him to understand your point but don`t give up. It`s not fair that you are the one who burdens everything. Sometimes being too kind is really hard especially in your situation. I just hope that you can talk it through and stay friends at the same time. Of course the relationship will change, but if he is open minded enough to understand your situation then everything will be alright
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
I did have a brief and serious talk with him last night about it when he was about to leave the house. I went better than I expected as I was able to explain to him how I feel and plan things to go on. He did agree and said he will be moving out soon. I also made it a point that we not put this thing between our friendship and he agreed. It's a good thing he was mature about this.
• Malaysia
24 Jun 12
Hi choybel.I read your post and I truly understand how you'd feel because i've been through the same thing.A good friend of mine asked if she could stay over for just a day because she was still house-hunting, and that 1 day turned into 3 months!I was able to bear her lengthy stay and my lack of privacy,However,the last straw was when she started to use my clothes, my toiletries, and use my air-conditioner 24/7!And true enough, she brought over her friends to stay over and have lunch at my place using my food stuffs!I wondered why my bills had a significant increase(it was about 65%).I couldn't wait anymore for her to leave. I did realise that telling her to leave will jeopardise our friendship but fixing my finances was more important and I missed my privacy.So we had a friendly but serious chat, when she was in a merry mood of course. I showed her the recent bills and I told her that if she wants to continue to stick around, she has to do her part-pay for the bills and the rent. Of course, I didn't expect a positive reaction from her.which she didn't give but she just left the house. A few days later though, she came back with all her things and she said that she'll stay permaneantly and she'll discuss with me first before inviting any of her friends over. In conclusion, I think if you want to tell your friend to leave in a nice way, just talk to him( when he's in a good mood of course) and tell him nicely how you feel about what he's doing. Even if something bad happens, the important thing is that you let him know. However, if you think that doing so will permaneantly damage your relationship with him, I suggest you look for a different housemate or move to a different zipcode. Hope you make a decision soon! Happy myLotting!
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
25 Jun 12
After a few attempts, I finally get to talk to him personally and expressed the matter at hand last night. I mentioned how I feel things went and how I planned it should go with him leaving the place, also asking him not to make this issue something that could come between our friendship. He said he understood and would move out this week. I'm relieve it went well but not really sure I'm totally happy about it. I guess I can live with it though. Thanks!
@meumeu25 (917)
• United Arab Emirates
24 Jun 12
It is better if you talk to them right away, it's obvious that they are being inconsiderate. Just make sure that you talk to them where people can see you, in case of misunderstanding. They have to understand that at some point, Nothing comes for free. Tell them, you can't pay all the expencies and you can't do all the houseworks alone. You are going to need someone to share with, if they don't want to have a share then tell them you need to find someone else and that they will have to go.
@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
24 Jun 12
I did that and nothing really happened. It's like scolding a child for misbehaving and then he starts to behave for a while and then goes back to misbehaving. The best solution is to just tell them to leave. I'm just tired of being the good friend. I have other problems to attend to and this just doesn't help at all. I just wish we could stay good friends after I tell him to leave.