what's the point of debate?

July 30, 2012 10:51am CST
People sometimes debate with one another especially about what they believe. For me there is no point in debating and it's just a big waste of time. People who are in debate have their own views and everyone wants to tell that their own point of view is right. I'd rather talk to people who are earnestly seeking their question from the bible not to the people who only intend to check if you have great knowledge in the bible. When we enter in debate we are like giving precious stones to pigs or dogs.
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@Bluedoll (16774)
• Canada
1 Aug 12
I do agree we must be careful not to enter into some argue or become angry when we discuss such wonderful things. It is true our pearls are on display but didn’t Jesus Christ also do this by talking about his most valued treasures? Though we are warned about giving our pearls away having them in view is not against any law I think? As I look at this very discussion in the religion category I think well, it could be both. This could be a friendly discussion or it could be a debate though debates can be good or heated with anger. So what to do? Let me read 1Timothy 6:3 – 6:4 or more and decide what is best I think.
@Bluedoll (16774)
• Canada
1 Aug 12
Even the word debate can be questionable? A debate in my mind is suppose to be something we discover. My memory of debates in school was fun, exciting and a learning experience. However, I see some debates being made into something ruthless and online debates can be just terrible hostile sometimes, it is true. This is why I like that Mylot has choosen to call our activity discussion not debating. My concern is not so much what other views there might be. People have views for certain and it is good they express themselves but how anger and even vulgarity can creep into debates is never acceptable for me. I believe it is special to talk about our spirtuality even online. If there is a connection between two people or more, then this is something even the angels take interest in (biblical reference) and we should show caution, I agree. It is like a prayer and how it would hurt me to become angry at such times. It is something very disrespectful. I do see though, even delight in other viewpoints for everyone has a different perspective. I've heard it being discribed as looking at an elephant from different views. A good illustration. Some have much different beliefs than ours. The key I think is a respect for each other on a personal level if possible. Jesus had a wonderful way of talking to people.
2 Aug 12
yes debate is a word that has many faces today. sometimes, people has a different view of it. online debate can be very destructive, people can hide with their username and can say whatever they want. Even Christians can involve themselves in questionable conduct online, like engaging in debates, without careful considerations of its spiritual dangers. talking spiritual matters online is a special thing also for me but to the right people not in a debate. I believe angels have primary obligation to guide the people preaching about the word of God to those with honest heart individuals. I remember the illustration about the elephant and a great reminder for us to look and understand the bible as a whole and not just the portion of it to support our own established ideas. yes, Jesus made a fine example for us. Respect is the key. thanks for the insightful comments.
1 Aug 12
hi bluedoll, thanks for your views here. pearls are the truths we learned from the Bible, by telling it to people who only want debate, we are like giving it to pigs or dogs.. meaning we are just wasting it for undeserved people. I have no intention to debate when I created this discussion but you are welcome to say how view this. Thanks for the bible text, debate are for those puffed up with pride, not understanding anything, mentally diseased... Ooops it's not my own words but from the bible itself. Thanks!
@buenavida (9985)
• Sweden
31 Jul 12
Hi I don't like debates if both are trying to convince that the other person is wrong..but if both are respecting each other and sincerely want to find the truth, that is different. There are many kinds of people and we have to find out if there is any point in talking with some, but at the same time remember that next time they may think differently. We remember what happened to the apostle Paul. He changed completely when he understood he was wrong and later became a wonderful Christian brother.
@buenavida (9985)
• Sweden
1 Aug 12
Searching for the common ground is a great way to get contact with people of all kinds. If they just want to discuss, then we can leave them that time.
1 Aug 12
hello, thanks for the good points you shared. Like Paul who changed his beliefs people can change too. but as I have said in my previous comments here, I think debate is not the right place. talking to people in personal and knowing their questions is one way I could think of. Jesus also set a fine example for us how to share the truth to others. Yes, we must know when to leave the conversation when we feel that it's becoming a debate.. seek for the common ground and not something to disagree with.
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2 Aug 12
reaching people of all kinds and sharing them the truth should be our aim not debating our belief to the people who have close minds.
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@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
30 Jul 12
I think ti still depends upon the person who are debating. If they are debating because they just want to speak out their mind then that is arguing, not debating. Debating means speaking out and standing to what you believe but in other hand you are also there to listen, accept and understand the opinion of others. Debate can be a two way process depending on the people. At the end of the debate, both people or parties must have learn something. If they don`t then they don`t listen and the purpose was lost.
31 Jul 12
yes we all need to listen and we shouldn't insist what we believe, we have to respect other people's opinion. debate often leads to arguing and exchange of bad words, insults and criticism.
• Philippines
5 Aug 12
I hate it when there is a situation that comes to this. I mean respect is always the key and they must avoid debate when the people that is about to debate cant understand how it will work. Debate is suppose to be an open communication and exchange of ideas not to the extent of fighting
• United States
31 Jul 12
You're probably right, but I enjoy a good debate where both parties voices their point of view in an effort to convince the other side.
1 Aug 12
then, I respect your point of view here. thanks for participating.
• Valdosta, Georgia
30 Jul 12
I just think people are so focused on trying to change other people that they don't give enough thought on changing themselves. I do not care what others believe. They will not change my beliefs so who cares? I would not debate because all it does is cause more harm than good. Just like people trying to change other people's habits...Is it hurting you? NO! If you don't like it, don't look!! Worry about changing yourself and your own bad habits instead of judging other people's habits! What others do have no affect on what we do. Just my thoughts though of course...
• Valdosta, Georgia
1 Aug 12
Oh no not at all. You did not mean you, I was talking about people that take it so seriously if someone does not agree with them. I was not mad or upset at all. I promise. I was talking about people in general. Like a heavy person telling a smoker it is unhealthy for you to smoke. Um no offense to anyone here but it is ALSO unhealthy to be overweight! That is what I was talking about, who are people to try to change others thoughts or habits you know? Lol. I think everyone has a right to their own opinion, but no one has the right to judge what others do when we all have bad habits of our own. That is all I was saying. I'm not mad at all, and if I misunderstood the topic I am so sorry. I thought that was what we were talking about here. Maybe I am losing my mind?
1 Aug 12
well thanks for clarifying this and I'm glad you're not mad. anything in excess is not good. we have to weigh things and since we are all imperfect no one has the right to judge. Our free will or choice in life make us also all responsible for whatever acts we do in life. oh you're not out of your mind, sorry to let you think that way, it was just a plain misunderstanding.
31 Jul 12
yes that is true, people in a debate are trying to change the beliefs of others. sorry if you misunderstood my topic here, I am not trying to change the habit of everyone, I just want to say my point of view. So you are right, it's not hurting ME It seems my discussion caused you so much pain!! Just my thought also.
• China
31 Jul 12
Debate exists when some people try to make others support their opinions.If two sides don't change their own point of view,that's a waste of time. However,debete do has something good.Just like every coin has two sides.Debate also has pros and cons.Through debate,we can make our opinion more clear,think better.
1 Aug 12
I agree, it has it good side too for those who are open minded. debate can let us think more logically but sometimes it can corrupt our thinking too. so I'd rather be away from it.
@urbandekay (18278)
11 Aug 12
Debate is the blast furnace, smelting the slag out of the molten truth! all the best urban
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
31 Jul 12
Well, if you're already a devoutly religious person, then obviously there's no need to debate. I would suggest anyone who is devoutly religious avoid debates altogether instead of just fussing about how pointless they are. Sure. There's probably little point to someone already believing that the beliefs they have are the "right" beliefs to have and that they're going to experience paradise and all that. Why would that person even want to debate to begin with? Debate is for everyone else. The people who aren't sure. The people who don't believe. The people who do believe but might find gaps in the logic of religion. And while some might say the burden of proof is on the believer, everyone knows how it works at this point. So, no, nothing's on the steadfast, devout believer. I wish that person the best. I also wish they would avoid debates on the topic and save them for people whose minds might be changed after the facts are weighed. The debate to prove religion (pick one) is just nonsense to begin with. One side: I believe. The other side: Show me the evidence. One side: You can see it everywhere; it's true! The other side: Oh, ffs. And on and on it goes. So I say save debate for those in the middle.
1 Aug 12
I fear God, I think that's the right term for it. I appreciate your suggestion, I saw your point. Well some debate in good faith of convincing others for what they think is right. I guess debate is not the right place for it. It's very rare in a debate to see that someone accepted the point of view of others rather they fight for what they already know. Your observation is right all have their own dialogue in a debate. People like evidence and for someone with a close mind, it will only be a no ending explanation. In short a great waste of time.
@bird123 (10632)
• United States
2 Aug 12
Interaction is part of God's great learning system. People do change people, sometimes only in a small way. One should never run from interaction simply because there is a little drama. Often drama is where most of the real learning takes place.
@rog0322 (2829)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
31 Jul 12
Hi, A debate often brings out what is the truth. If I listen to it long enough, I may learn something new. What is interesting there is the way the people bring out their arguments on the subject: some has no proof at all, some fabricated, still others are based on hearsay bordering on the illogical to the impossible. Whether I am involved or just a third party listener in a debate, I always bring home another stock of knowledge gained from the exercise. Most of the time, though, I just sit back and relax and listen to the competent and incompetent would-be orators and laugh my heart out on their attempt to describe reality. Times like this, I always remember the blind men trying to describe an elephant.
31 Jul 12
what can I say? so far I just receive the best comment.. what you all said are true. sometimes, I laugh how people are fighting and throwing words and arguments to each other. I also notice the logic thinking and made me use my own thinking too. But this doesn't mean that I like debate.. we can always accidentally see debates topic here but it is our own choice to give our comment or just opt to read and observed. The blind men trying to describe an elephant is really a nice illustration. Thanks for the good thoughts you shared!
• Philippines
31 Jul 12
I completely agree with you. It's impossible to change one's mind through debate. Each side is already convinced that he/she is right. I wouldn't waste time debating with people, I would only share to those who are open to my ideas and opinions. I don't think people disputing over what's right and wrong about the Bible care much about God. They just want to grab the spotlight and show off what they know. A person who is truly a believer would humble himself/herself and act instead of talk. Don't get me wrong, if someone insults my beliefs, that would be a different story. But to volunteer myself and include myself in the middle of a debate, that's just not my cup of tea.
1 Aug 12
yes some have intentions to show off what they know. Instead of focusing on the bible's principle and teachings, that person is trying to draw the attention of the people not to the bible but to his own ideas. Truly, it's more easier to say than to show it in acts. It'a an instinct for us to fight for what we believe and it's normal to get hurt when someone insult our religion. So the best thing to do is to respect their own belief too and don't pay back bad for what is bad. I don't like debate and it's not my cup of tea either. Thanks for the wonderful thoughts here.
@mikyung (2232)
• Philippines
30 Jul 12
Debates can be good or bad. If it will bring violence, harm, discrimination, definitely, I would say "no" to debates. But if it will bring the best of each and one us, I would embrace that with an open heart. Peace to everyone.
31 Jul 12
thanks mikyung for sharing your thoughts. I guess debate always has a spirit of competition, yes there are valuable points we can learn but if the mind of the people in it is closed, we can't do anything from it. In the end it will be just a waste of time.
• India
10 Aug 12
Well if the debate is all about putting their point if view then it should not be called a debate rather I invite them to Mylot. A debate is mainly over a topic which has only two sides and ones taking part should concentrate on proving which of the two is correct. Also unnecessarily arguing over different beliefs is correctly a waste of time as you mentioned. We have different belief and I do not see any sense in questioning that.
@riyauro (6421)
• India
30 Jul 12
It is true. I would not debate and waste my time on such topics that are based on beleifs. Have wonderful day ahead.
31 Jul 12
hi riyaro, thanks! it's always nice to have a constructive communication rather than choosing debate which is really destructive. Have a wonderful day too!