World monuments..cellular jail in Andaman, are you kidding?

@vandana7 (62379)
India
September 11, 2012 2:29pm CST
So..we go to Mausoleums ...and offer our respects, even if we have none, we at least admire the architecture. What do we go to jails for? Offering our respects? Agreed that those who lived there suffered and were political prisoners. Agreed that some of them died there. But does that entitle us to turn it into money spinner after their death? And show to the world the place where they must have been tortured..is it worth recalling? Would you preserve just anything that has some history attached to it, or something that is a reminder of good times? Your call..
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@jennyze (7048)
• Indonesia
13 Sep 12
I guess the original purpose was to remember and honor whatever happened at the site, thus the monument was placed. There is a monument in Bali to remember the first Bali Bombing victims by terrorists in 2001. Many people came there bringing fresh flowers to pray for the lost souls. And yes, for several years now, travel agency had made it one of the stop in their city tour... I hope the guide has the conscience to tell the tourists to
@jennyze (7048)
• Indonesia
13 Sep 12
I hope the guide tells the tourists to pray for them, too.
@jennyze (7048)
• Indonesia
13 Sep 12
Personally, I don't think I would want to visit those places... they must be haunted... But some people like to see gory places...
@jennyze (7048)
• Indonesia
17 Sep 12
Well, you are saner... You see, I fear somethings that I don't know or can't see or can;t touch...
• India
14 Sep 12
Hello my friend vandana7 Ji, Well, first of all I wish to tell you that everyone today is after name and fame. Those who make such events, find places in world records book. Exactly similar ways, modern people want to simulate those conditiond some 100yrs back to make fire with stones, want to live on tree, wants to do all those things, which were done in their natural ways. Similarly, regarding "Monuments..cellular jail in Andaman, ", where my hubby had been at number of times, being an Air force person, and as he described me, he said, it is beyond imagination and acceptance that so many people were made to live under those extreme condition.Som ebody to make study. So it is monument. In similar fashon, my hubby never likes Taj mahal, he says that he sees blood stains of those who made it and tortured labour, but it is being preserved. Have you ever visited that jail ion discussion. It is also known as 'KALA-PANI' May God bless You and have a great time
• India
14 Sep 12
Hello my friend vandana7 Ji, Well, I do not encourage you to visit, but as tehre two sides of each coin, similarly, goods & bads to go side by side. It is in nature. People who want to enjoy may not go, but people who are adventerous may prefer to find out and simulate conditions, if they have to live that, then how others will understand so ity is declared monument. Taj-mahal's real beuty comes and visible only for few seconds in a year, on Kartik Poornamasi, when Moon is glittering , sky is clear, many people wants to find out how Arebic language writings are seen when moon comes at particular angle. Please plan to visit only on that day. May God bless You and have a great time
@vandana7 (62379)
• India
15 Sep 12
MGB, Indians can be told this is all there is to it, if you all want to visit it. Mandatorily including it in tourist's itinerary robs the place of its solemnity I think, especially if the person incurs some charges for it. Those who truly feel for them, can choose to visit, and donate perhaps.
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• India
15 Sep 12
Hello my friend vandana7 Ji, Well, we simulate the things to find out the exact nature in its truthfulness. Just imagine the conditions, under which people lived. West Minister ASbbey is also grave-yard like Taj-mahal. kala-pani is also grave yard, who could not survive. May God bless You and have a great time
@allknowing (61686)
• India
12 Sep 12
I must admit I bowed down to the importance given to prisons and went to the "The Rock" a prison off California in the Alcatraz Island.No prisoner could escape from there The gangster Al Capone's cell is preserved in all its 'glory' - even the coffee mug that he used is there. We were not allowed to touch anything. It is not easy to get there. After a ferry ride there is a steep climb that one has to maneuver! I do not find anything wrong in preserving places that are unique. In London one can find torture cells too vandana. In my travel escapades I have had opportunities to experience the 'weird' and the 'wonderful'!!
@vandana7 (62379)
• India
12 Sep 12
Alcatraz was once supposed to impregnable, so I guess, it might have been fine to show it as such. But Capone would soon be "who Capone". Nobody remebers 15 odd Prime Ministers of the country who would remember terrorists. Yes..that is carrying things a bit too far..lol. Historic monuments I feel should be to appreciate the thinking of people and admire those people, wonder how they built such huge things, and how they did some of the functions without some of the modern machinery. That is ok..like Pyramids. We can wonder how those people must have lifted things and how bodies were preserved and why the internal structure towards sanctum sanctorium is so complex. That is fascinating..not a place that witnessed tears, cries, and pains of freedom fighters. At the best we pay respects if we feel like it and not go there as duty or with some indifference. I dont accept torture cells should be maintained.
@vandana7 (62379)
• India
12 Sep 12
Would you rather visit torture chamber or Buckingham palace? Another choice Torture chamber or the wardrobe of Queen Elizabeth the first? Another choice Torture chamber or the English countryside that you read so much about in Pride and Prejudice, and you get a chance for a nice cup of tea in the afternoon ..without milk ..and brownies. lol. I'd prefer the last one anyday..
@allknowing (61686)
• India
12 Sep 12
When one is in London surely you would expect them to visit Buckingham Palace. I did. But could not get in as it was a Sunday.Our holiday package had just 2 days to be in London. I could not even witness 'trooping the colour' which I so wanted to. When in Paris besides other things we were taken to Planet Hollywood a restaurant where they had displayed clothes worn by famous stars like Elizabeth Taylor and the likes. We were given free coke as much as we wanted. I will never forget the Lido cabaret where we were given free champagne and were treated to a topless show which was a part of a musical loaded with props that one rarely sees anywhere. Suddenly one would see a waterfall on the stage!!!
@thesids (22362)
• Bhubaneswar, India
12 Sep 12
That ancient one? Ah! I thought they would shift the Arthur jail to Andaman and declare it as a Monument... after all they have invested much of our monies on this one... Never mind.. anything ridiculous and insane can happen with this (il)learned and (un)concerned government... As for my call... let me check if I have the numbers of the authorities... or even the Chairperson...
@thesids (22362)
• Bhubaneswar, India
12 Sep 12
I agree with you dear but unfortunately at this moment, to me it seems to be more of an appeasement to the masses to show that the Authorities care... and as always, they are only trying to save themselves by doing some show off... they are never and am sure will never see the world beyond the Gandhi and Nehru family. I would instead prefer if the Jallianwalah Bagh or even the Park where Chandrashekar was slain ... there are definitely 100s of such places which should be considered. I fail to understand one thing though (off discussion) - we have so many Tele Serials, newspapers and other places where they ask people to vote via sms (and almost all of these are useless and waste of money) - so why not use the same SMS thing to take consensus and act on such important things which can help in getting things right! (this is one of the things I had written to Indian Express as an article which they never will publish but I am of the opinion that this could be a potential help)
@vandana7 (62379)
• India
15 Sep 12
In fact, I have been feeling the same. We need to strip the politicians of their power to randomly take decisions, without allowing the common man to know the implications of each of their decisions, adverse implications along with good ones. I am disappointed with broadcasting as well as retail FDI approval, because it will close all mom and pop shops around our homes and many of our broadcasting businesses wont be able to survive to tell the truth, if at all, they ever tell any of course. Broadcasting is a strict no no from me, and so is the retailing.
@ElicBxn (60762)
• United States
11 Sep 12
Well, the French have their La FĂȘte Nationale but the rest of the world call it Bastille Day, and the Bastille was a fortress-prison. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastille http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastille_Day
@vandana7 (62379)
• India
12 Sep 12
Oh the French are smart..they are smart..how I wish my countrymen would realize that too..if our freedom fighters suffered there, we should be destroying it, and creating some sort of monument par excellence that would prompt others to read something about the place..rather than show them those prisons..
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@ElicBxn (60762)
• United States
12 Sep 12
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcatraz_Island
@Hatley (164743)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Sep 12
hi vandy this is making me think and I am agreeing I wo uld not relish seeing the place where poor people were tortured at all.some places do not need to be shown just because of the history. now in the places where the Nazis killed so many many people maybe we do need that to remind us of how one little shrimp of a man was diabolical enough to cause the deaths of many many innocent people. Otherwise no lets know make monuments of jails and prisons'we do not need that. I think we should be a lot more upbeat a reminder of good times.