pacman was ko'd because of religion

Philippines
December 10, 2012 2:54am CST
i don't if you've heard of the insinuations that pacman was ko'd because he changed religion from being a catholic to a christian. also, pacman did not wear the cross that he used to wear in his other fights. what's your opinion on this/
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@aejey322 (1006)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
I don't actually believe in this. In boxing, or in any other sport, you don't need anything but yourself and your will to win. I mean, yes we need prayers, we need God, but religion does not matter. As long as you believe in God, He will do what is best for you. I am a devoted Catholic myself, but I am not believing in what the others said about it. It may be that God has a message for him that's why he let it happened... Or it's just that there is some other reason around. But I can also say that it was a wrong move of having no defense while attacking his component. So the impact was hard because he clashed himself with the other's punch. But back to those insinuation, there is really no connection and we should not blame Pacman for converting his religion. It's just a game. And in a game there is really a chance of winning or losing. It's just unfortunate that he lost the game yesterday. It is still the same God that he is praying to. Though he does not wear the rosary anymore, but what's important is he did not forget to pray before the fight. Let us not blame anyone. But just be thankful that Pacman is safe and feeling okay after what happened. He is still blessed that he had not experienced what other boxers experienced after that fatal hit. God loves him because he blessed him and gave him a renewing life.
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Thank you for this reasonable response. I thought that many people will actually believe that one as use it as an excuse. Sports id 90 percent skill and the rest is luck. You win by your actions, not be some predestined script that one Ultimate Being knows. If this is the attitude of all religious people in the worlds, I’ll be an atheist sooner than later.
@aejey322 (1006)
• Philippines
11 Dec 12
You are right. I was really not expecting that this thinking will come out... I do not judge people and I still respect their opinion. I was just sad that people used the religion and beliefs and even blaming it. It's considered blasphemy, I may say. Because even if they are saying against the religion and not directly referring the Lord, but still religion is about believing in God.I guess that is why we already experience many calamities now because people already tend to misunderstood our Faith in Him. But well, that's another story...
• Philippines
11 Dec 12
I'm a roman catholic so this is basically what I felt he was defeated. But, it also is unfair to other religion especially to the Protestants to judge the game according to religion. Well, for me, I think his ultimate weapon is the rosary that he always wear and it takes part of him when he began not to believe in Mother Mary. Hopefully, he will be back to be a Catholic.
• Philippines
12 Dec 12
my brother-in-law said his rosary was broken when he fought bradley. i'm not sure though.
@agmamayo (804)
• Philippines
11 Dec 12
Religion has nothing to do on Manny Pacquiao's KO loss to Juan Ma. It was all planned after all, the bout has no bearing to Pacquiao, it is all about the money, under Bob Arum's greedy hands. Manny Pacquiao has become the cash cow for the mafia's of Las Vegas, Nevada. After the controversial loss of Pacquiao to Timothy Bradley, Arum floated a possible rematch between them, then a few months later, suddenly the Top Rank CEO stated that they are still looking for possible opponent for Pacquiao at the end of 2012. Then came the name of Juan Manuel Marquez rematch dubbed PM4. We all know that Bradley has a lesser fan base compared to Marquez, and the income of the Pacquiao vs Bradley fight was nothing compared to what they earned during the Pacquiao vs. Marquez 3. The bottom line for the PM4 saga was all money, and the loss of Pacquiao will be a good trigger to lure Floyd Mayweather to think about a fight between Pacquiao because that is what all of us fight fans want to see. The Mega fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather might again be relived because of that KO loss handed to Pacquiao. It will signal Mayweather that Pacquiao is now ripe for the picking, and the chances of him winning against Pacquiao is high. For Pacquiao, if the mega fight will happen, win or lose, he will earn a huge payday compared to his 20 million dollars earned from his KO loss to Marquez. Pacquiao has nothing to gain from the Marquez fight, there is no belt to fight for, just prestige, and Pacquiao win or lose, KO or not is still a Hall of Famer, a 8 Division World Champion and still the Philippines well known boxer. If you noticed during the fight, Pacquiao was not his usual game plan, he was so careless and all his punches were lounging types as if he is trying to reach something. Common sense, you have fought the same man three times in a row and you know he has a right hand power punch, yet we have seen Pacquiao do a right hand jab all the time instead of doing a left jab to upset Marquez right counter punch. I think everything was planned by Arum, he is still after the Mega fight between Manny and Floyd. If the PM4 fight ended again in a split decision or if Pacquiao won then we won't expect Floyd to come out and challenge Pacquiao, but now that Pacquiao was knocked out, then Floyd might think otherwise.
@nicanorr (1789)
• Philippines
12 Dec 12
Hi, agmamayo! Hats off for a bright analysis of PM4. Here are offshoots I got from your piece. If Pacquiao played as mafia's cash cow, he could have fake his KO and received substantial amount on the side, aside from the $20M legal earning. Pacquiao brushed aside rematch clause with Bradley and settled on PM4 based on previous ticket sales. Money was the big issue. The PM4 was nothing but a struggle for prestige, nothing more nothing less; Marquez got it as "WBO Champion of the Decade". For his KO, I think it's okay to say that Pacquiao's name got tattered. If Pacquiao enters the ring again now with Floyd on the foe's corner, then I would say this turn of events were handmaid by Arum with Pacquiao on the leash, and Floyd swallowing everything hook, line and sinker all because of money.
@rsa101 (14917)
• Quezon City, Philippines
12 Dec 12
Yes there are many speculations coming from even a sportcaster that theorizing that the usual things you do on the rings somehow affects your ability to fight effectively. It is not religious but more of a psychological according to him. If before he use to pray with the rosary in his hand and pray some catholic conditions his mind and body stronger psychologically. Then all of a sudden he changes his methods then it may have some impact on his psyche all in all. There was another one that says Dec. 8 is Immaculate Conception in Catholic calendar which is pivotal day and Rosary was indeed important religious icon which he did not bring anymore. That is why many devout Catholic are speculating that he was not given a blessing from the heavens. Although the Catholic Bishops are not endorsing this that he is being punished by the heavens for going away from Catholicism and they are respecting the decision of Pacquiao if he has chosen a different religion for himself. As for my opinion, I guess there was too many factors behind that affected his performance. There was his social life which has changed already. I guess in the past he might have focused solely on boxing but now his life is entirely different from his past. It stole his time for extensive training. I heard that he had only 5 weeks intensive training in the US while Marquez had 5 months uninterrupted and intensive training. I think it was not solely religion that affected his ability to fight well it was his action and dedication in it. He has gotten so many from it already that even if he loses from this he would not suffer that much anymore but just a wounded ego.
@cobalt20 (1321)
• Philippines
11 Dec 12
Why religion? I think its just a lucky punch for Marquez. He is doing well in his training. Do we not allow Manny to pray during the fight match?
@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
11 Dec 12
Pacquiao has probably gotten reckless for some reason. I think it's not his religion. I'm not sure, did he change his style of fighting? Plus, enough with all this religion having something to do with Manny's loss.
@louievill (19361)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Personally I think this is what the devil would like us all to believe, more National divisiveness in the name of religion, come on guys, let's get over this nonsense issue, he lost because he lost, next time he will win or more Filipinos will win and become champions if we stay united as a people and not let these distractions get to all of us.
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
I have to control myself from doing a double face palm. I respect religious people, even Manny and his mom. But this really takes the cake. I mean, does everything have to depend on religion? If that so, maybe Manny would win more because he is now a more spiritual and religious person. Last time I heard, he’s preaching the Bible. Is God not now answering his prayers? Would that mean he will lose his fights from now on? Seriously straw man argument. Perhaps, maybe it’s not a good idea to debate with the religious after all.
@aabuda (1729)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
People are commenting on this...and I think there is no problem to that. The only problem is that on how his new religion interfere his training habit that made him lack strength and conditioning.
@nemrac12 (388)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Hello mylotter I heard that also , they said Pacquiao should not change his religion thats why he lose the fight. But it has nothing to do with the religion. The main reason is he was being over confident of himself. And he did not follow his coach instructions the he should practice in states with his coach. Unfortunately he prefer to practice here in philippines. He should change his technique for marquez had known for a long time how he fight.
@devonavis (1857)
• Greece
10 Dec 12
Yes , I've heard of that. Even her mom Dionisia Pacquiao said that in an interview just after the fight aired in the national television. But personally, I do believe that Pacquiao got overconfident . I can't judge Pacquiao and Marquez because I'm not a boxing expert and I'm just a spectator, I didn't even learn the fundamentals of boxing.