I'm No Longer The Beggars' Friend.

Picture in Public Domain from Pixabay.
By Jabo
@jaboUK (64361)
United Kingdom
March 16, 2016 9:20am CST
I've always given a coin or two to beggars, though my husband says I am gullible. However, I'm not stupid - I know that it may be spent on drink or drugs, but if there's a chance that it may help someone in genuine need, I give anyway. Here in Spain there are quite a few beggars on the streets, and I've tossed a bit of change their way. Yesterday I happened to pick up the local paper which is printed in English, and there was a headline which caught my eye - 'Don't Give To Beggars'. It seems that 99% of the beggars are part of a gang who are bussed in each morning, and then have to give all their 'takings' to a 'slave master'. I don't know what they get in return - perhaps food and a bed for the night? Whatever - they'll get no more from me. Picture from Pixabay.
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@LadyDuck (460362)
• Switzerland
16 Mar 16
This is sad but true Janet. The same happens in Italy and also here in Switzerland there are a few that are bussed from Italy each morning. The police has put warning signs not to give money to the beggars, at most we can give food or discarded clothes if we want.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@LadyDuck I hadn't realised that begging is an organised business - what a state of affairs. In that case, food or clothes would be the things to give.
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@LadyDuck (460362)
• Switzerland
16 Mar 16
@jaboUK At least they can eat the food and use the clothes. There is a serious business behind beggars, what a shame!
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@LadyDuck I'm wondering why the authorities don't do something about this. If it's in the paper warning everybody, the police surely know about it too.
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@TheHorse (207500)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 16
Sounds like something out of a Dickens novel.
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@marlina (154165)
• Canada
16 Mar 16
That was my first thought also.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@TheHorse You know I hadn't realised the similarities to Fagin and his gang, though of course they were picking pockets, not begging.
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@TheHorse (207500)
• Walnut Creek, California
16 Mar 16
@jaboUK Heh, yes. I enjoyed that book. I think Dickens rewrote the later chapters, in part to make it less offensive to Jewish readers (Fagin was Jewish).
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
17 Mar 16
I choose the beggars i would give money with . If i see that the beggar is an old and weak person , i would give . But if the person is still mobile and whom i can perceive as capable of going to work , i don't . As for those children , i certainly would not give . Giving alms to beggars who are children and those who are still mobile , i like encouraging them not to look for work .
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
17 Mar 16
@jaboUK That's good to hear then . Here some are being used by syndicates for begging for them .
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
17 Mar 16
@SIMPLYD Fortunately I haven't seen any children being used for the begging here.
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@hostessman (11871)
• Tucson, Arizona
16 Mar 16
I offer then some yard work and then pay them for it.. most of them don't want to do that
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@hostessman That shows that they aren't genuine then, unless they are disabled.
@Lucky15 (37346)
• Philippines
16 Mar 16
Aww...same case here. Beggars are syndicates
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
17 Mar 16
@Lucky15 Oh yes, there will still be lots in genuine need, and it's a pity that we will be wary of helping them because of not knowing if they belong to gangs.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@Lucky15 Judging from the responses here I think that I must be the only one who didn't know about these gangs!
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@Lucky15 (37346)
• Philippines
17 Mar 16
@jaboUK though i knew some who are really beggars because when i give them food, they take it
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• United States
16 Mar 16
Why in the world would these people stay and beg for someone else? Why don't they just run off and disappear? Here they beg everywhere and there are newspaper stories about people they follow up on who live in big houses and drive nice cars on the money they get. So I don't give to them, but give to the homeless shelters. If you can earn so much by begging though why are so many in homeless shelters? It's a puzzle.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@Jeanniemaries That's what I find hard to understand too, the begging for someone else. I suppose it's the security of knowing that they will have food and a bed at the end of the day. As you say, it's better to give directly to homeless shelters.
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• United States
16 Mar 16
@jaboUK It also would be quite easy to infiltrate the gang and find out who the leader is if the police wanted to. It is hard to understand how this can be ongoing.
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• United States
16 Mar 16
I guess that if it was in the paper, then it is true ... that is far more trustworthy than an article on the Internet. However, I was wondering why the local government has not done more to put a stop to this sort of behavior, especially if it is so well-known that it is in the local newspapers.
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• United States
16 Mar 16
@jaboUK That is exactly what I was thinking. Then again, I guess it is not really the beggars that are doing anything illegal but more the person or people taking the money from them. I was thinking that they could arrest the beggars or at the very least keep them off the streets with the "no solicitation" laws or something like that.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@purplealabaster If they know they are being bussed in they could surely just be waiting for them and turn them away. As you say, individual beggars are not illegal.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@purplealabaster That's what I wondered too - if the newspaper warned us about this, the police must surely know about it too. The beggars must have a camp or something nearby, it wouldn't be hard to find.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
16 Mar 16
Wow that is insane! Here in the US I do give to people that are in need. I am in no position to judge what they buy with the money I give them-that is between them and God. My heart being in the right place and helping is between God and I. I love helping others. =)
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@xstitcher (30540)
• Petaluma, California
18 Mar 16
I try to give when I can, too--though i'm not able to do it very often.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
18 Mar 16
@xstitcher I'm going to be more careful about giving now.
@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@LovingMyBabies I've done the same as you up till now, but this has certainly made me think twice. I won't be giving any more while I'm in Spain, anyhow.
@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
16 Mar 16
Down here I have noticed that they always travel in pairs, see one and look around you will see their partner in a car or across the street, I don't give to them.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
17 Mar 16
@jaboUK Yes and I see them smoking and drink Starbucks coffee dahhhh
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
17 Mar 16
@BelleStarr Lol - I've even seen the beggars with mobile phones!
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
17 Mar 16
@BelleStarr If they've got cars they aren't exactly down and out, are they?
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@Inlemay (17713)
• South Africa
18 Mar 16
Eureka - did the light bulb go on? They are indeed a group of conning people that play on our sympathy. I remember a day when we say a beggar woman at the Entrance to one of the Catholic Churches, it was late afternoon and as it got dark we were about to leave, and low and behold, her male friend arrived, she took off her robe and walked away with him with the most modern designer clothes on. Wharever!! I was cured of my gullible giving in an instant.
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@Gina145 (3949)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
21 Mar 16
@Inlemay That kind of story seems to be quite common around here. In Joburg we had a beggar who managed to sit in such a way that it looked like he had no legs. He would sit himself down on the ground in the middle of the road, and naturally people felt sorry for him. Then the cops came along and he quickly sprang up and ran away. I think someone caught the whole thing on video.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
18 Mar 16
@Inlemay Yup that light bulb sure did go on, just as it did for you when you saw that woman.
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@Inlemay (17713)
• South Africa
18 Mar 16
@jaboUK I know - they are such con artists and we fall for it all the time
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@DianneN (247216)
• United States
16 Mar 16
Many of the beggars in parts of Europe, especially Paris, work for terrorist organizations.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@DianneN Do they really? I feel really naive now
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@DianneN Me too, from now on.
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@DianneN (247216)
• United States
16 Mar 16
@jaboUK Live and learn. I am very careful who gets my money now.
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@JudyEv (326601)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Mar 16
This is terrible. I've heard the same about beggars on the continent too.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
17 Mar 16
@JudyEv Have you? This was the first I'd heard about it, but a lot of the commenters have been saying it goes on in their countries as well.
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@JudyEv (326601)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Mar 16
@jaboUK Yes, I noticed that. Eastern Europeans are said to make the children go begging and wait round the corner for the pickings.
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@OKennedy (1130)
• United States
17 Mar 16
it sucks that sometimes we have to stop helping those who can't help themselves because you helping them is really helping someone else who is taking advantage.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
17 Mar 16
@OKennedy Very well put, you've hit the nail on the head.
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@OKennedy (1130)
• United States
17 Mar 16
@jaboUK Its very hard to do when we want to do a kindness but if we give in we aren't really helping we are only enabling the people who abuse them y our good intentions.
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@miniam (9154)
• Bern, Switzerland
16 Mar 16
l once saw a documentary in BBC where bosses bought babies and women in Romania then take them to the UK to beg, little girls as young as 3 years are sent to beg, at the end of every working day they have to give money to the bosses. The BBC followed them around all the way to Romania, these people had mansions and driving top range cars from the begging money.Some bosses had up to 7 children and women. Babies sell better because they receive more from people and they have a longer life(in begging business).and people feel sorry for them so they earn more l have not given a penny to a beggar since then, l will donate to homeless shelter or any other charity if l want to but im not giving to anyone
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@miniam I didn't see that documentary or I would have stopped giving to beggars long before now. The beggars here in Spain look like Eastern Europeans to me, so it could be the same scenario as you describe.
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@miniam (9154)
• Bern, Switzerland
16 Mar 16
@jaboUK l believe they call them iternos or internos in Spain. Im not being mean here, im talking from experience, they also steal a lot, the women/children go begging men go shop-lifting.Men don't get much sympathy when begging so they steal
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
16 Mar 16
@miniam I can believe that.
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@slund2041 (3314)
• United States
17 Mar 16
I wonder why they are not out there begging for themselves or their own family. Why are the begging for some Master? Is this a type of gang that once you are in it, you cannot get out?
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@slund2041 (3314)
• United States
17 Mar 16
@jaboUK You are probably right. It seems so strange, but I guess everyone is not fortune enough to have their own bed. I guess I tend to take too much for granted. These poor people.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
17 Mar 16
@slund2041 I think they beg for someone else because being part of a gang gives them the security of a bed for the night and enough food. That's only my guess.
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• Hyderabad, India
17 Mar 16
I know right, I stopped giving to the beggars too. But one day ( this was years ago) a child happened to ask me for food. I readily accepted. The next thing I saw was, he ran with the food towards his little sister. Fed her and then he had. My heart melted right there. I didn't know these kids had emotions inspite of being abused and tortured. Since then I choose to give them food. This was my exp, if you'd like to read it.
His face lit up, his eyes dazzled with happiness as he said 'thek kyu Didi' .
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• Hyderabad, India
17 Mar 16
Thank you for those kind words Ma'am. I write on Motherhood for that blog. If you found that article interesting, then may I request you to share it? It'll help build us readership. :) That boy changed my outlook towards life. I realised that there were a lot of things that I during my college days took for granted.. Be it food,clothing, shelter, parents and even God. There are children who don't have some of these and then there are children who don't have any of these.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
17 Mar 16
Your article has really touched me, you are very compassionate. I haven't seen that sort of thing in England. Children should never be in that position.
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@Gina145 (3949)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
21 Mar 16
I don't give money to beggars, but if they come to our door I sometimes give them food.
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@Gina145 (3949)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
22 Mar 16
@jaboUK You're lucky. It's quite a common occurrence around here.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
22 Mar 16
@Gina145 We never get them come to the door, thank goodness.
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@ridingbet (66857)
• Philippines
18 Mar 16
I am a beggars' enemy here. I would always tell them that ai am a nurse and I can bring them to a government agency that takes care of people like them; that is why they curse me while they run away. I believe thay are members of a syndicate because a policewoman said at 6AM, these beggars are brought in and they disembark from a big truck where many of them have newborn babies with them too.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
18 Mar 16
@ridingbet It seems that everybody knew about these syndicates but me! Lots of the commenters here have told me that the same thing happens in their countries, and you are saying the same about the Philippines.
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@ridingbet (66857)
• Philippines
19 Mar 16
@jaboUK it is, my dear friend. there are syndicates of beggars around, and they are from another regions of our country
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@VivaLaDani13 (60681)
• Perth, Australia
28 Apr 16
This is a very hard thing to deal with sometimes. Some people look down on you for not giving because it makes you look uncaring. But if you do give, there is always a chance that it's given to a complete scammer. I can't remember if it was here in Australia or somewhere else but my dad told me a story of this dude who would beg for money in the street but got caught driving away in a Ferrari hours after.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
28 Apr 16
Wow - a Ferrari? Any sort of car would be bad enough, but sheesh!
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• Perth, Australia
28 Apr 16
@jaboUK lol yeah I know. So pathetic. I don't know how he can sleep at night knowing he can happily take money from people who believe he is poor.
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@AunBecky (265)
• Virginia Beach, Virginia
17 Mar 16
When i read your title i thought hubby had offended you. lol
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
17 Mar 16
@AuntBecky I suppose it's inevitable that you would be funny, the same as him!
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@AunBecky (265)
• Virginia Beach, Virginia
17 Mar 16
@jaboUK it rubs off. lol
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