Have you heard of a haybox?

@JudyEv (326276)
Rockingham, Australia
May 3, 2016 8:33am CST
I have had a lovely discussion with @Raelove on her post 'And Speaking of Cooking'. We were discussing the old wood and oil stoves which wives and mothers had to contend with years ago. I asked Rachel if she had ever heard of a 'haybox' and promised to write about it when I found out more information. So here it is. Basically a hay or strawbox uses the hot food to complete the cooking process. Foods are heated to boiling point then insulated so that the trapped heat finishes the cooking process. This type of cooking has been described as the non-electric version of the crockpot. It is suitable for any recipe that is boiled, simmered, roasted or steamed. You can find lots of information on Google but here is one way of going about making a haybox cooker. Find or build an almost airtight box out of tongue and groove timber. It needs to be nearly airtight with a tight-fitting hinged lid. A 30 inches high, deep and wide box (a cube) is a good size to take a 2 ½ quart Dutch oven. Glue heavy paper to the inside surfaces, overlapping the paper to cover any openings. Pack the box three parts full with fresh hay. It needs to be fine hay, not coarse or clover hay. Hollow out a nest to hold the cooking utensil. A heavy metal pot will give best results as this will retrain heat better than most other materials. Sew a casing out of strong fabric, stuff with hay and pack in around and over the casserole or Dutch oven. Then close the lid. That's about all there is to it. Start the evening meal in the morning. There won't be any evaporation so you won't need as much liquid. Ensure the food is well and truly boiling before transferring the dish to the haybox. A good haybox will hold usable heat for up to 8 hours. I realise this is probably of little use to anyone but it IS interesting and perfectly feasible. The photo is of a planter box but this is the sort of box you'd need with the right dimensions and a lid. I wonder if I can talk Vince into making me one?
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• United States
3 May 16
I see no reason or benefit to cooking like this in modern times. It seems a lot of effort and risk involved. It is interesting, but just in a historic sense, like when big chunks of ice were put into an "ice box" in the kitchen before household refrigeration was common. I think many people suffered from food borne pathogens at the time.
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@Fleura (29230)
• United Kingdom
4 May 16
It's largely been replaced by the electric crockpot/ slow cooker, but if you had a power cut or were camping in the woods it could still be useful, as long as you could light a fire to start it off. It saves a lot of fuel.
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@Fleura (29230)
• United Kingdom
4 May 16
It's been reinvented in a modern version - have a look at this
North America Other Africa Europe Australasia Welcome to Wonderbag, creators of the first portable, non-electric heat retention cooker. Founded in South Africa in 2008, we’re changing the way communities cook around the world.
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• United States
4 May 16
@Fleura What is old is new again. This is true of many things. Home gardening should be taught in schools again, along with other "home ec and industrial arts" skills.
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@LadyDuck (459635)
• Switzerland
3 May 16
I have searched and I have found interesting photos that show this old time cooking method. This is not something that I have ever seen. I remember that my grandmother used to put the pot in a niche in her wooden stove. The hot ashes finished the processing of cooking. I remember the potatoes cooked under the fireplace ashes, we left them there all the night, the taste was so incredibly good.
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• Canada
5 May 16
@LadyDuck My grandmother did that too. I loved her big old cast iron stove!
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
I have had potatoes cooked in the ashes too and they are SO nice. When we have a big bonfire we might wrap potatoes in foil and pop them in the ashes.
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• United States
3 May 16
most interestin' indeed, ms. judy. i reckon we kinda sorta did somethin' similar? 'xcept not near's fancy 'n with ol' quilts 'nstead'f hay. i dunno if'n ya can talk mr. vince into such'r not? i'm still tryin' to figure why the hay'd not catch fire with such a hot pot.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
I don't think there would be enough heat for the hay to catch fire but if I ever do it maybe I'll put the box outside!
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• United States
5 May 16
@JudyEv lol, thanks goodness! i'm purty paranoid o'er fires...perhaps coz my dad 'twas a fireman 'n constantly preached 'bout't. big hugs!
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 May 16
@crazyhorseladycx I am wary about fire too. And now Alberta is copping a whopper I believe.
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@Inlemay (17714)
• South Africa
4 May 16
they have clay boxes around these parts that do about the same thing - clever idea - its all about combustion I believe
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@Inlemay (17714)
• South Africa
5 May 16
@JudyEv In Africa they make ovens out of COW SH** as well
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
That's interesting that you know of something similar.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 May 16
@Inlemay I've heard of this. Isn't it used to insulate huts as well? Plastered on the outside?
@MALUSE (69409)
• Germany
3 May 16
We had such a thingy in the 1950s. But we didn't make it ourselves. We bought it.It wasn't filled with hay, though. It was a big metal pot with soft padding inside. I don't know what kind of material it was. My mother and I lived alone then. She prepared something to eat in the morning and put it in the 'cook box' as it was called in German. When I came home from school and she wasn't back home from her job, I took the food out of the box which was still warm and ready to eat.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
It seems it doesn't need to be hay. You can use just about anything that will hold in the heat. Obviously from what you say, they work quite well.
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@Lucky15 (37346)
• Philippines
3 May 16
It was just now that i learned about it. Learned somethng new ;)
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
A little bit more trivia for you. But it is okay if you forget about it.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
3 May 16
I have known of these previously, but not well enough to describe one properly.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
Certainly some have heard of it but not too many.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
3 May 16
That is very interesting as I had never heard of a haybox.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
5 May 16
@JudyEv I would have to agree with you on that. Lol lol
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
I think there are many who haven't heard of it.
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@gudheart (12659)
3 May 16
This is the first time I have been educated on it! Sounds really interesting. I wonder if the food cooked in it tastes a lot different.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
We'll probably never know! But one day I might try it out just for fun.
@PainsOnSlate (21854)
• Canada
4 May 16
It sound like something we could do while camping...not! Too much work. I remember my grandmother with the wood stove to cook on and bake in but I don't remember a hay box. There might have been one because they were farmers and there was lots of hay. Let us know if you get one and use it...curiosity is key...
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
I think any air-tightish box would do and you don't need hay it seems. Old quilting or rugs would do just as well. Watch this space!
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@shshiju (10342)
• Cochin, India
4 May 16
haybox is something new to me.
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@shshiju (10342)
• Cochin, India
5 May 16
@JudyEv Ya sure thanks
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
I have taught you something new then.
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@just4him (307544)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
4 May 16
Now that sounds like the perfect kind of box for camping trips. Not that I go camping - I don't. But I've been camping enough as a child to know that would work very well once you got the food boiling over the fire.
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@just4him (307544)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
5 May 16
@JudyEv It seems like a very practical thing to use for camping. If my mother would have known about it, there would have been one of those packed in all the camping gear too.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 May 16
@just4him There are all sorts of 'mod cons' now even in the camping world.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
It could be quite handy camping and having a casserole-type dish might make a nice change.
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@norcal (4890)
• Franklinton, North Carolina
4 May 16
I have seen pots that work on a similar principal. It is basically a pot that goes inside a larger, well insulated pot. It is called a Non-Electric Thermal Slow Cooker. They are available on Amazon, pretty pricey though. It might be worthwhile for someone living off-grid.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
If you didn't have electricity it might be worth considering. The post was just a bit of trivia really. I've heard of those cookers too but they're hellishingly expensive over here too. Promoted in many camping magazines.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
@norcal Our friends have one of the expensive sort. It cooks while they're driving and their meal is ready at night.
@norcal (4890)
• Franklinton, North Carolina
5 May 16
@JudyEv I guess you could take it with you when travelling, and your meal could cook on the way.
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@MarymargII (12422)
• Toronto, Ontario
4 May 16
Definitely something new for me- I like the idea- will have to get hubby to whip one up for my next pot of Stodge----LOL!
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
Yes, it would be ideal for stodge!
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 May 16
@MarymargII It doesn't hurt to have ideas like this lurking in the back of your mind.
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@MarymargII (12422)
• Toronto, Ontario
5 May 16
@JudyEv You see- I catch on quicly-ha! Btw the hay box would be great to keep around- for survivalists.
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@GreatMartin (23675)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
4 May 16
I'm spoiled--I'll use the crockpot!
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
Fair enough. The post is just a bit of trivia. I'm not trying to change the world.
@garymarsh6 (23393)
• United Kingdom
4 May 16
These sort of things have gone right out of fashion in our fast paced world which is a shame really. There are many other examples that have gone by the way side for example pickling, making jam curing bacon etc etc All the sort of things my grandparents and parents did. I have tried to show my daughter some of these things but she would rather just buy stuff from the shop. The taste is no comparison!
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
I'm glad I lived when there was much of this going on. We didn't cure bacon but we killed our own meat (I can still cut up a sheep carcass), made gallons of jam and bottling a lot of fruit. I find all these old ideas really interesting.
@DeborahDiane (40068)
• Laguna Woods, California
12 May 16
I guess this is the early idea for a crock-pot or slow-cooker. Very cool idea (or perhaps I should say "hot" idea!)
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 May 16
@LindaCPearson came across mention of one in a book she is reading so isn't that interesting? I wonder if it will come up a third time somewhere.
@DianneN (247219)
• United States
4 May 16
Not for me, but it must have been useful back in the day. I prefer my new and modern cookware.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
Me too but it's an interesting idea.
@AnneEJ (4917)
• Dollard-Des-Ormeaux, Quebec
3 May 16
I have read about these in books, but never actually tried one, or knew anyone that had. Very interesting. I remember when we were children, and had no refrigerator, my parents used to bury meat in the haymow to keep it during the winter.
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
There were all sorts of ingenious ways to stop food from spoiling wasn't there?
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@AnneEJ (4917)
• Dollard-Des-Ormeaux, Quebec
5 May 16
@JudyEv Those good old days, eh? Makes us thankful for what we have today
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• United States
4 May 16
I most likely won't do this but it definitely is interesting. Sounds like a lot of work and I'm getting lazy in my old age!!
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@JudyEv (326276)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
The post was just meant as a bit of trivia. But it has piqued my interest and I just might try it one day. :)