Only Men Play Chess In Public

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@MALUSE (69409)
Germany
May 28, 2016 3:12pm CST
When I go to the town centre, I walk through a park. Near a kiosk and a small building with loos/bathrooms are two chessboards (I'm using this term although it's wrong because there are no wooden boards but square slabs of black and white concrete) inserted in the pavement. Big boxes beside them contain the chess pieces. At least one of the chessboards is nearly always occupied. Two men are playing, several men are sitting on the benches on either side watching and commenting on the match. The men are tough. 'Nearly always' means that only in case of torrential rain or sub zero temperatures nobody comes. Most of the players and onlookers come from Eastern Europe as can be heard from their accents. Chess is a national sport and wide-spread pastime there. Someone who's grown up in Russia finds a German winter a laughable affair and sees no reason to stay at home when Germans already sit behind their stoves. You may have seen photos of snowed-in parks in Moscow where men dressed in winter coats and fur hats play chess at small tables. Occasionally I see Germans play and watch but I never see men from Southern Europe or Turkey. Some years ago I met a woman I know with her granddaughter at the chessboards. There were no men around at that time of day. She didn't teach the girl how to play, she was too young for that. But she showed her where to put the chess pieces and the girl eagerly carried them around. I remarked that it was the first time I'd ever seen females near the chessboards. Being an ardent feminist she nearly exploded. She attacked me with "Who says that women aren't able to play chess?" "Not me," I answered. "I haven't said anything about ability. I've only said that women don't play here, never have in the 40+ years I've lived in this part of the town. I haven't evaluated or interpreted this. I've only stated a fact." She scowled a me but calmed down. The last times I was in Stuttgart, the big city near where I live, I saw that someone had put a table with a chessboard and two chairs on either side in the middle of the central square. Two men were playing, a group of men was watching. No woman in sight. I don't play chess myself. Nobody has ever shown it to me. This is a lame explanation, of course. There would have been many opportunities for me during my life to learn it. Maybe if my husband could play, I'd have learnt it, too. My husband did play once, though. When we were students a friend asked him if he could play and he felt like saying yes. The friend placed the chess pieces on the board and my husband did some random moves without having the foggiest idea what he was doing. Surprisingly, they made sense and puzzled the friend enormously. He sat pondering for a long time until he made his moves. It took quite a while until he realised what was going on. Great fun (at least on one side)! Any comments from chess players why only men play in public and why even the best female chess champions are far behind their male counterparts?
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
28 May 16
lol m y hu bby won every time I played c hess witgy him women are not taugbt how to play it and so we learn as we go alolng and the men always win.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
28 Jun 16
my daughter has won a few times against my son who plays quite well
@valmnz (17099)
• New Zealand
28 May 16
It does seem to be men who are most attracted to the game. I used to be able to play, but would definitely need a few reminders if I started playing again. We have those big boards painted in public places in some parts of the country too, mainly used in summer.
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@valmnz (17099)
• New Zealand
28 May 16
@MALUSE traditional maybe? Maybe we can't see any point in armies chasing each other around the board!
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@MALUSE (69409)
• Germany
28 May 16
Have you never asked yourself why one doesn't see women playing? It's not indecent, is it?
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
28 May 16
It's something that I never learnt either - I didn't know anyone who played so never thought about playing. But it was the same with Bridge - I never had the opportunity to learn. I believe that a lot of women play the latter, but now I come to think of it, chess does seem to be a male dominated game. No idea why.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
28 May 16
I have observed this also, not just in Germany with outdoor chess games, but with dominoes in Spain too. I know not why it is the demesne of men in these cases. The Mediterranean countries favour the game of pétanque, or boules, or bocci (variants of the same game) and I have occasionally seen women taking part in this game. Cricket in England seems to be also the remit of men... Crown bowls, however, is played by men and women alike. Croquet, as in Alice in Wonderland, for example, is played by men and women too. Interesting post.
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@Fleura (29218)
• United Kingdom
29 May 16
I think perhaps the longer the game takes, the more likely it is that men will dominate, women just don't have that much 'spare' time!
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
29 May 16
@Fleura Perhaps. What about the ice game, curling? It is like bowls, and bocci/boules, and is popular with women too...
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@Fleura (29218)
• United Kingdom
29 May 16
@pgntwo I don't know, I guess you only need a few keen people to get into a sport and start a 'women's team' or whatever and then it can take off. Chess is a bit different because it is an individual game.
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@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
28 May 16
I used to be a pretty good backgammon player and on holidays in Greece and Turkey the local men were a bit shocked to see me and my then boyfriend playing in bars.
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@MALUSE (69409)
• Germany
28 May 16
I can imagine this. The question remains: why are board games predominantly (exceptions prove the rule) a male thing?
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@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
28 May 16
@MALUSE In those countries women meet in their homes and not in bars or cafes.
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@acelawrites (19273)
• Philippines
28 May 16
It is interesting because no women has yet been known in the "chess world!" Maybe it is known to be a man's sport, or just women are just so busy they don't like the idea of sitting so long in a chess table for a match like that specially along the walks. I knew some chess because my late brother taught it to me when I was in high school. Am a woman but I like to play chess if I have time and a "not so skilled" challenger! ha ha ha!
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@topffer (42156)
• France
28 May 16
I have never seen these kind of giant chessboards, except in movies. I played chess in a club and a café where there were a few female players, and some of them were very strong players, but it is true that women are globally less good than men at chess. I think that a woman plays chess as a hobby just to play, when a man plays to win. They spend less time to study chess, and have less competitive spirit. There is a mixed European championship since 2000, and never a woman won a gold/silver or even bronze medal.
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@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
28 May 16
I played Chess years ago. I had an Uncle who taught me. But it has been many years now since I played and I forgot most of it. I know the basics though. It is a fun game but a time consuming game at that. I also like playing Backgammon. And yes, Monopoly. I find those there games challenging. But I haven't played in a long time.
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@Teep11 (7674)
• United States
29 May 16
My grandmother played chess. My second oldest son knows how to play the game of chess because he was in the "Chess Club." We rarely see women playing chess. It seems men are more interested in the game and mainly older men. I love the chess collections. Enjoyed this post. Be blessed.
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@jstory07 (134527)
• Roseburg, Oregon
28 May 16
It is mostly men who play chess in public but there are some women who like to play chess to.
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@marlina (154165)
• Canada
28 May 16
Now that you mentioned it, I do realize that I have never seen women play chess outdoor. It is always men. I do play chess. My husband is a great player so of course he always wins with me. Our 2 sons also play chess but they are no where as good as their father.
@Fleura (29218)
• United Kingdom
29 May 16
As far as playing in public, I think it's a mixture of things - partly about showing off/ challenging yourself against others, which seems to be more a male thing, and partly as a way to meet friends because as others have said women often meet in their homes so the men need to get out of the way! In many places the home is still seen as 'the woman's domain' especially in the day time! As for why men play more/ are better than women in general at chess, I imagine like many other things such as inventions, it's simply a matter of having the time to devote to one superficially 'useless' activity. I did learn to play chess as a child - in one school it was made part of maths lessons! It wasn't really my thing though - I just don't have the ability to work out all possible consequences of my and other players moves. This is the same as for other strategy board games, which my partner and many other male friends love, they can spend an hour or more just reading the rule book! I like games to be more fun. This is funny really because in real life I am much better at forseeing the possible consequences of various actions! Like @Boingboing I used to play backgammon with my then boyfriend too but since we went our separate ways 18 years ago I don't think I've touched the board.
@MALUSE (69409)
• Germany
29 May 16
@Fleura @boiboing You both played backgammon with your 'then' boyfriends. Can we conclude that it's not advisable for young couples to play this board game together?
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@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
29 May 16
@MALUSE I doubt that backgammon broke up our relationships . There were far worse things absolutely my ex than his backgammon.
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@Fleura (29218)
• United Kingdom
29 May 16
@MALUSE I think that is confusing association with cause!
@JudyEv (326093)
• Rockingham, Australia
29 May 16
Maybe women have always been too busy with doing twice as much as men trying to prove they're equally as good? I have no idea really. Chess doesn't interest me as it takes too long but of course that's just me.
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• Russian Federation
21 May 18
Oh, you use the word "kiosk"! In several cities of Russia, both elderly men and women play in the parks
@MALUSE (69409)
• Germany
21 May 18
I've checked the word 'kiosk' on the internet and found interesting information. The word has made a long journey until it arrived in Western Europe. The German word is also 'Kiosk'. "1620s, "kind of open pavilion" (made of light wood, etc., often supported by pillars), from French kiosque (17c.), which is (along with German and Polish kiosk) from Turkish koshk, kiöshk "pavilion, summer house," from Persian kushk "palace, villa; pavilion, portico." They were introduced in Western Europe 17c. as ornaments in gardens and parks. Later of street newsstands (1865), on some resemblance of form, a sense perhaps originally in French. Modern sense influenced by British telephone kiosk (1928)."
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• Russian Federation
21 May 18
@MALUSE Oh, this word is connected to many languages! Thanks for sharing this information For us, a kiosk is a small shop where one can buy newspapers, envelopes or magazines
• Russian Federation
21 May 18
@MALUSE In ours, they do not sell food... Thanks, it was informative
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
28 Jun 16
it is a shame. my son tried teaching me a couple times but I am not that smart. but I know lots of women/girls in my family know the game well.
• Budennovsk, Russian Federation
11 Jun 16
In my childhood I have also seen old men playing dominos. That was, like chess or playing cards, some typical men's hobby and a time-wasting thing at weekends.
@MALUSE (69409)
• Germany
11 Jun 16
I wouldn't call that time-*wasting* but time-spending. Considering the crowded living conditions in many Russian cities (kommunalka), men must be glad to have the opportunity of getting out and women must be glad to have the space for themselves for a while.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
29 May 16
I have always wondered why it's been a 'man's' game @MALUSE . I think because the game takes a lot of thought and strategy, women find it boring. Yes, women do a lot in terms of strategy in a lot of things but a game? Not so much. I on the other hand love checkers. Fast and quicker maneuvering.
@MALUSE (69409)
• Germany
29 May 16
I used to play this when I was still at school. Not anymore since then. I've never found someone to play it with. I can't play anything with my husband because we always argue terribly. :-) / :-(
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
30 May 16
@MALUSE That definitely takes the joy out of playing (arguing).
@Ronrybs (17837)
• London, England
29 May 16
I've not seen that many outdoor boards, on my travels, and I can't recall anyone using them. Wonder why that is?
@MALUSE (69409)
• Germany
29 May 16
You've obviously travelled to the wrong destinations! :-)
@rogan99 (22)
12 Jul 16
Lol...people still play chess? That too,in the public?with boards?even after soo many apps available on playstore and appstore? And we have got nice consoles like ps3 and ps4...and we got much better games than chess..and people still play it? I really find old people strange....
@MALUSE (69409)
• Germany
12 Jul 16
Ever heard of social interaction? Should you ever visit Russia, you'll see people playing chess in winter in snow covered parks. They love it. Nobody makes them do it.
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12 Jul 16
@MALUSE i"m not a social person.. But I'm trying my best to be open... I do hang out with friends by the way..and yes, i really want to visit a cold place like russia. i hate the warm Indian climate.. But i heard Russians are very rude and aggressive.is it true? Check my discussion about Germany...
• Groveland, Florida
11 Apr 17
I can only assume this appeals to men more is because it is basically a combative game. It's war. Men seem to appeal to such strategic games, but I'm not saying just the guys only. My oldest daughter is pretty good. This might catch me an evil eye, but perhaps testosterone blends well with this sort of thing.
@MALUSE (69409)
• Germany
11 Apr 17
Your theory is as good as any. No evil eye from me! :-)
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