Is It Really Discrimination?

United Kingdom
February 8, 2017 1:32am CST
People discriminate all the time. We discriminate against people, places, beliefs, and opinions of a multitude of subjects. Sometimes, it is necessary. Whenever we apply for a job, the potential employer must make a choice. This could be considered a form of discrimination even if it is discriminating against someone they don't believe is capable of carrying out the required task. This makes perfect sense, of course. There are, however, some examples of discrimination which are not what they appear to be. In the UK, it is illegal to discriminate against someone because of race, disability, sexuality, age, gender or religious beliefs. In the case of race, gender (except in one to one care roles) or sexuality, discrimination is illogical as these things are irrelevant I most situations. Age, religious beliefs or disability might make a difference to some things, though. For example, it's accepted that we discriminate against age so that we don't have 8 year olds in nightclubs or toddlers buying alcohol. It would also be perfectly reasonable not to offer a job to a blind person if the job required driving. As for religious discrimination, it is possible that a person's beliefs may be incompatible with certain things. The point of this discussion, though, is that tricky area in which someone thinks they have a case for illegal discrimination but, as a matter of fact, there was another reason. That reason could be simply that you don't like the person, which is still a form of discrimination, and have nothing to do with age, gender or anything else. I remember a boy at school. Other children didn't like him and neither did many adults. This was because he was a horrible person and a bully. He also happened to be Asian in a predominantly white, British community. He'd play the race card and accuse others of being racist although he, himself, was racist. There were other Asians in the community and most were accepted. This particular boy didn't seem to understand or realise that it wasn't his race but his attitude which people didn't like. More recently, I've been working with a blind lady. If you've read a recent rant of mine, you'll know a little about her! Anyway, she had complained that a taxi driver had refused her because he wouldn't take her guide dog. Now, I do know that some taxi drivers won't take dogs including working dogs. Whether that is, or should be, their discretion is debatable. What is not debatable is that this particular woman is a pain and I have to wonder if taxi drivers knew her and refused her because of her as opposed to discriminating against her disability or her guide dog. Then there are all sorts of invisible disorders such as dyslexia, dyspraxia, autism, etc. Of course, it is wrong to discriminate against those things but let's take dyslexia - it can be a difficult thing and I know a few people who have it who have been accused of being stupid. While that is unfair in itself, I also know some dyslexic people who are actually not very bright. It's perfectly possible, of course, to be dyslexic or dyspraxic or dyscalculic or autistic or anything else but also be a good, intelligent person. It's also possible, just as those who do not have these things, to also be not very clever. Having dyspraxia doesn't mean that a person is clumsy or lazy but it also doesn't mean that they can not also be those things, just as having dyslexia doesn't make a person stupid or incapable of learning but nor does it mean they can't also be stupid or that they are capable of learning. So, do you agree with the way in which I have defined discrimination? Or does discrimination have to fit certain criteria?
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@JudyEv (326601)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Feb 17
I think you are quite right but it does make the whole issue of discrimination a real minefield.
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• United Kingdom
8 Feb 17
Yes, it certainly does. You could have a perfectly valid reason for denying someone a job or for disliking them, etc. but if they happen to fit into a 'minority' or 'vulnerable' group, you still have to be careful! Then, of course, it's an even bigger problem when it is actually the protected trait which is the problem. 'Sorry, you can't work in this brickyard because you have no limbs and it would be dangerous to allow a wheelchair on the site'... 'You can't do that, it's disability discrimination'!
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@JudyEv (326601)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Feb 17
@pumpkinjam I think the wheel has gone too far. If you were a small business owner, you may not want to hire someone who is pregnant if they are going to leave in a few months. I sometimes think the employer is discriminated against in instances such as this.
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@Plethos (13560)
• United States
8 Feb 17
disrimination is when you judge someone by a trait other than their character. at a place i used to work at, a fellow co-worker complained to my foreman i was prejudiced/racist towards him. I was confronted about it by the two of them and i laughed at him and said that i dont hate him for being black, i just didnt care for him because hes lazy and an a-hole. and if i was racist, why havent the other 2 black co-workers of ours not complained about the same thing? foreman was also black, he basically told the guy to quit making false accusations and learn to work.
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• United Kingdom
8 Feb 17
That's a good definition, judging in something other than their character. I remember my mum saying when she had an interview once that she was asked about equality, what it was, and how she would implement it. Her answer was that she hates everyone equally! So you know everyone will be treated with equal contempt.
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@Plethos (13560)
• United States
8 Feb 17
@pumpkinjam - when people jump straight to the race card or gender bias, i tell them its them personally because , as your mother said, i have equal hate and respect for everyone. now thats equality for all !
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
9 Feb 17
This used to be the main case here in the US. But not no more. Now they are very prone to being very rude and judgemental when it comes to Health. Just wish sometimes more employers could think more before judging.
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• United Kingdom
9 Feb 17
Yes, more employers, and people in general, should think more before judging. I have a partner and son with 'invisible illnesses' so we're quite aware of this sort of discrimination. Although, as I mentioned, there are some who will assume that someone is unfairly discriminating when they are not. As in the child in my example who thought everyone was racist against him when he was actually just not a very nice person.
@Kandae11 (53769)
8 Feb 17
People discriminate all the time - and some are not aware of it.
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• United Kingdom
8 Feb 17
True. Some are not aware. Sometimes not realising what they're doing, or ignorance to the fact it is discrimination. Others, of course, discriminate deliberately but for different reasons. Sometimes because they are racist, sexist, or some other 'ist' word! Other times because they feel it is necessary to discriminate.
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@frank96 (114)
8 Feb 17
Discrimination shouldn't appear yet it's everywhere .
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• United Kingdom
8 Feb 17
Maybe not but there is such a thing as positive discrimination and, depending on the exact interpretation of discrimination, it may be necessary. But to discriminate or judge a person's merits on anything other than their character (as PLETHOS said above) or their ability to do what needs to be done, is wrong.