How Camp Insanity Got Its Name

Canada
March 20, 2017 12:00pm CST
1987 New York State Campground, Four women – 8 kids under the age of 10 and bears that were hungry because New York State closed the dumps and started landfill that spring.  (But we didn’t know that yet.) That first night we mothers were in our tents reading bedtime stories to our children when the insanity began. I tucked my kids into their sleeping bags, and went out to make a fire and relax. The first day is always the hardest – it’s a lot of work to set up a camp, the kids were excited and after spending the day in the river they were ready for bed at dusk. We moms who were exhausted were looking forward to opening a bottle of wine and sitting in front of the fire and talking for hours. That didn’t happen. I started the fire, set up the lawn chairs and then I heard snapping – the sound of twigs breaking in the wilderness beside us. After a while it began to really creep me out. I had my sister stick her head out and asked her opinion and she suggested late campers looking for firewood… my response was…LOOKING FOR FIREWOOD WITH NO FLASHLIGHTS? At the next snap I hit the On button on my flashlight and there standing in the edge of the woods was a black bear looking startled in the light from my flashlight. All hell broke loose, Elaine went running up the hill with her flashlight to signal the rangers we needed help and I went running into the nearest neighbors campsite to let them know we had company. An older couple with their older son, the son came running, shirtless, shoe-less with his flashlight and ran into the forest making all the noise he possibly could to scare the bear away. The rangers arrived and told us that the bears were being a problem that year because of the lack of free food at the dumps and a few bears had dinner ON OUR SITE THE NIGHT BEFORE because the campers were stupid and left their coolers out. Those campers left in a hurry. We were Furious! At THE RANGERS for allowing us to take theses two sites – the farthest sites into the campground and the easiest access for the bears, We knew the bears would come back every night. If we had we been told about what happened on the site the night before we would have chosen another site closer to civilization. We gave it our best but after three night of very little sleep and visits from many bears, the rangers helped us move our sleeping tents to a safer site next to the ranger station. We kept the wilderness site for the days because 8 kids make a lot of noise. It was a beautiful site with great access to the river. Lovely when it wasn't dark... My car had a dead battery. My sister’s car lost its transmission and needed to be towed. Our Dad, came and took the dog home. He came back to fix my battery and help us after the two weeks to go home. We found bear nose prints on my cars (that had all the food in its trunk) every morning. We covered my car with talcum powder nightly as we left the site for the safer one... (so we could see the prints) The rangers and our neighbors shopped for us when we needed supplies. Insanity struck anyway anywhere it could.: Two of our three Coleman stoves blew up. Our beef stew turned into charcoal while cooking under coals. Our bread got moldy and the bananas stayed green for two weeks. One camper taking his trash to a dumpster lifted the lid and a bear popped up. He left his trash in the bathroom that night. Another camper had bacon one morning, wiped his pan with paper towels and left the trash zipped into his screen tent A bear went through one side of the screen tent and out the other, dragging the trash. (That was in daylight). The rangers did what they called a “Bear Run” on the hour all night every hour to make sure everyone camped was not having trouble. They took all of us on some of those runs in the back of their truck – the kids loved it. CAMP INSANITY. We women learned we could survive anything. We learned we were in love with camping.  We vowed to return and we did, and we still do. Every year there is a bit of insanity but nothing like that first year. That was the 1980’s. Today it’s safety first. If a bear is spotted anywhere near the camp the rangers visit every camper telling them how to protect themselves. Also today there are no dumpsters around the campground. In the center of the campground is a building that holds all the garbage and recycle materials and its closed every night – but not locked so anyone can drop off their stuff when they need to. Since the year NY closed the dumps and started landfill we have only been warned about a bear in the area twice and once we spotted a baby on the other side of the river.  We still keep our food locked in the car and at night if there is garbage it goes in the cars too.  So if you camp, laugh a lot and have fun, keep a journal and keep a clean camp.  NO FEEDING THE WILDLIFE!
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
20 Mar 17
What didn't destroy you made you stronger! In hindsight, the stories are entertaining. Yet, I can imagine that when they actually happened, they were anything but.
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• Canada
20 Mar 17
Actually we laughed a lot that summer, it was just so unusual and it was a bit scary after dark...My friend from Canada who was camping with her children with us wanted to go home - she was that afraid so we moved our sleeping tents to the rangers area and my sister and I admitted we slept well there...A neighbor( divorced dad) had a camper and took his children and went home but left the camper for us to use. He lived near the campground and said it was paid for until .....and i'll come back and bring it home... It was great, my daughter in her late teens had her monthly and spent the rest of our camp sleeping in the camper. We all slept better by the rangers...
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
20 Mar 17
We always had visits from chipmunks and other small critters but no bears, bears would have sent me packing for home lol
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• Canada
23 Mar 17
Not black bears, they are semi harmless, we never saw another except a baby running in the grass across the river...playing but ran back into the woods as soon as momma said come!!
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
20 Mar 17
What an experience, I would probably bring bear or pepper spray as a non-lethal deterrent and extra protection next time or just incase there are ones that are no longer after the food but had become predatory
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
21 Mar 17
@PainsOnSlate good to hear that, my only fear is that now they don't get their free food then they might turn predatory but again we do not have bears so I do not know how this particular type behaves, from what I understand it's also risky to come across one with cubs or a large agressive male, is this true?
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• Canada
21 Mar 17
Black bears do not eat meat, we know we don't need to protect ourselves from them, they were pests that year only because the state had taken away their free food which was an open dump...when I was a child Dad would drive us to the dump so we could see the bears after dark eating the food in the dump with the cars headlights..Once they got used to fending for themselves all has been good.
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• Canada
22 Mar 17
@louievill I just posted another discussion on the black bear today, We have heard that a black bear mamma's will knock people down if they are with their babies, and the humans get too close. The males are not aggressive that I know of but I wouldn't want to test it. They usually stay away from humans, that particular year it was because they were hungry - used to feeding in the dumps.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
20 Mar 17
No feeding the wildlife or it may be you ending up as the food! Great tale Marilyn, and a fitting name which has stuck with you.
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• Canada
24 Mar 17
We are fond of our camp name, it did fit and still fits at times...
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@moffittjc (118442)
• Gainesville, Florida
21 Mar 17
I absolutely love the fact that, after all that insanity, you were still in love with camping and still vowed to come back every year. That takes guts, and I admire your fortitude! You are one tough gal and I would be honored to camp with you any time! I'm glad you survived all of that craziness and came through the experience relatively unscathed! Kudos to you and your family!
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@moffittjc (118442)
• Gainesville, Florida
28 Mar 17
@PainsOnSlate I like your attitude to keep pressing on despite the circumstances you were faced with. A sign of a true outdoorsman! Or, in your case, an outdoorswoman (which apparently is not a legit word according to my spellcheck)
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• Canada
28 Mar 17
@moffittjc Thanks for the kind words, I love sleeping in a tent too much to let a bear scare me away.. ( I should say a black bear, I would run like a girl if it was a grizzly...
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• Canada
21 Mar 17
We grew up camping and knew this was not normal, we also knew the black bear is a pest often but not dangerous. There was no way we were going to give up that summer or ever...my Canadian friend was looking for a ride to the train to go home so we moved our sleeping area and kept our day site for her but we were glad we did that, We all slept better and that helped our attitude...The rangers took us under their wings too, it was a strange summer, we invited them to sit at our fire and some did that during the night, keeping our fire going and keeping an eye on the space around the women with all those kids sleeping soundly in our tents...
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Mar 17
You did really well to go back after that first time. Camp Insanity is very well named. And people think Australia is dangerous!!
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• Canada
24 Mar 17
it was a one time event - once the bears got used to fending or themselves and not having dumps to eat at, all was well.
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@Juliaacv (48437)
• Canada
20 Mar 17
That's a funny story, and still you love to camp! I cannot imagine how you felt when you saw a bear staring back at you in the darkness!
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• Canada
23 Mar 17
That was a scary moment but I got over it....
• United States
20 Mar 17
I don't camp, never did, no desire and this would make me glad I don't.
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• United States
23 Mar 17
@PainsOnSlate I would say so!
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• Canada
23 Mar 17
This was not a normal vacation...
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
20 Mar 17
I keep saying this to some here.But they do not listen.I know this.
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• Canada
23 Mar 17
@DianneN (246819)
• United States
20 Mar 17
Wow! Camp Insanity certainly is an apt name!
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• Canada
23 Mar 17
Yes it was... we became famous, many people remembered our year of the bears.
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@DianneN (246819)
• United States
24 Mar 17
@PainsOnSlate Lol! I can imagine.
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@Morleyhunt (21737)
• Canada
20 Mar 17
We've had raccoons and skunks visit our campsite. I'm not sure I we ever had a bear stop by. If we did we obliviously slept through the visit.
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• Canada
24 Mar 17
I would have preferred to sleep through it but that particular year was a hot mess...
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@andriaperry (116860)
• Anniston, Alabama
20 Mar 17
Only once or twice have bears been spotted here. We have a huge coyote problem.
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• Canada
20 Mar 17
In the Adirondack Mountains in New York State, it is mostly wild, with the small towns here and there and the lakes an rivers grow big towns with lots of tourists.. I camped there with my parents and my sister and I are still doing it, There are bears in the mountain but they are black bears, not the dangerous ones. When we started camping in the 80"s the attitude from the rangers was don't tell them because they might not come....now the attitude is its here, you need to know about it and have a great vacation,...
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@Happy2BeMe (99399)
• Canada
22 Mar 17
What a story! lol It is a great idea to keep a journal I wish I had. I was always going to but never did. I suppose there is still time. I should start one this year.
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• Canada
22 Mar 17
We have kept a journal for ever. we started with the first year, as the kids got older they wrote in the journal too, now my sisters girls have children and I'm assuming they will be writing in the journal too soon... So much fun to look back....and look to the future too.
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• Canada
22 Mar 17
@Happy2BeMe Your photos will tell a story too.
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@Happy2BeMe (99399)
• Canada
22 Mar 17
@PainsOnSlate Awwww that is so great. I have been camping since I was a kid and I brought my kids camping and now I take my grandchildren camping. I wish I had thought of the journal thing. It would have been fun to look back on. I do have all the pictures though so I am thankful for that.
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@FayeHazel (40248)
• United States
21 Mar 17
Oh wow, that is just crazy all the mishaps that first time. But it sounds life changing!
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• Canada
23 Mar 17
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, we are stronger than we were before that event. It showed us just how strong we were and thankfully it has been mostly calm since then...
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@FayeHazel (40248)
• United States
23 Mar 17
@PainsOnSlate Sounds like even though going through it may not have been fun - the memories and lessons have lasted and been of value
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• United States
25 Mar 17
I enjoy camping, but not sure I would be able to enjoy it as much if there was a bear sighting.
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• United States
27 Mar 17
@PainsOnSlate if it is your favorite spot and clear of bears then that is cool.
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• Canada
27 Mar 17
@ElusiveButterfly yes, we are happy campers.
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• Canada
26 Mar 17
We know that the bear thing was because the dumps were closed, we haven't seen a bear since that year except a baby across the river. We don't expect to either but we don't that the far end site anymore, we stay in a new favorite site in the middle of the campground.
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@PatZAnthony (14752)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
29 Mar 17
It all sounds like so much fun! What a great life and so many memories.
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@PatZAnthony (14752)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
30 Mar 17
@PainsOnSlate Many of us wish we had done that too.
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• Canada
30 Mar 17
We kept a journal too and its great fun to look back over the years.
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@sueznewz2 (10409)
• Alicante, Spain
21 Mar 17
Ha Ha I'm surprised you ever went back... but I'm glad you didn't let it deter you... strong pioneering women that you are... setting a good example for others and having a good time as well....
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• Canada
23 Mar 17
My sister and I knew we were not at deaths door and made sure the Children were not frightened. The last thing we wanted to happen was for them to be afraid and not want to come back. They looked at it as an adventure, which is what it was.
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• Midland, Michigan
12 Apr 17
I remember you used this as your username on bubblews, but I like the story behind the name, Marilyn. I made a few noises while reading this and I didn't think I was that loud, but my husband asked my problem and he can't hear me when I call him for supper and I go nearer the room he's in to do so, lol. At least you knew to put your food into your trunk at night and not to leave food laying around even though at the time, the first night you didn't know yet about those bears. Odd that the rangers didn't let you know about that site before you set up camp, course they didn't know for sure what might happen but they should have had a good inclination. The young man that went running that first night into the woods to scare that bear off was pretty brave. I think it was my reading that and making some sound that my husband questioned me. I'm curious what you think his age was at the time if you have a guess.
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• Canada
12 Apr 17
We became friends with the parents and sadly both are gone now. My sister and I were in our 30's and the parents there were in they 50's. The young man was probably 25ish, older than a teen but not married yet - still camping with his parents. And the reason the camp didn't tell us was that was the way it worked, they never said a thing scary. The next ranger who took over about two years later and became our best friend (a woman) Made sure everyone knew everything that might interact with their camping. It might have been a change in NY State rules, so much safer to know what might hurt us...
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@Fleura (29129)
• United Kingdom
20 Mar 17
That certainly was a baptism of fire if that was your first camping trip! We laughed (rather nervously) in Yosemite - they have big secure metal bins for campers to store food safe from the grizzlies. The campers themselves of course just get to close themselves up in flimsy nylon bags!
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• Canada
23 Mar 17
The garbage is put in heavy duty secured bins in the Adirondacks, I see it if we are driving into town on trash day. The black bear like garbage. I had camped all my life with my parents, when my children were little my sister and i started going every year as adults, the year before our dad told to to that those children camping even if it was just an overnight and we did that...and then the next year was the insanity year but fun memories and the beginning of something big.
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@DeborahDiane (40055)
• Laguna Woods, California
21 Mar 17
@painsonslate - OMG - I have been on many camping trips and something almost always went wrong ... but you have beat me by far! LOL
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• Canada
22 Mar 17
It was a stressful event but a lot of the stress was my friend from Canada, not the bears. I wrote about it again today...
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• Laguna Woods, California
25 Mar 17
@PainsOnSlate - Funny, but it almost always is other people and not events which cause us the most stress.
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