Manchester by the Sea is a wash for me

@Rollo1 (16679)
Boston, Massachusetts
May 25, 2017 6:37am CST
It seems to occur fairly regularly that if I finally get around to seeing a popular film, my opinion of it is wildly different from the majority of theater-goers and movie buffs. For instance, I hated Steel Magnolias. I could tell you why, but that's another post. So, I watched the film "Manchester by the Sea", a film that is being hailed as a "masterpiece". When we got to the end, I sort of went "huh" and felt incomplete. Okay, it's a story of real life and real suffering and so there may not be some happy ending or neat Hollywood wrap-up of problems. That's okay. Most Russian novels end like that. It's a fact of life. Misery continues. I think the film is a lot like the town, it is pretentious. The town was originally just called "Manchester" but they changed the name to "Manchester by the Sea" to avoid being mistaken for Manchester, New Hampshire, which is a more industrial city. Manchester by the Sea is a rather exclusive community, the exclusivity being created by the housing prices. Anywhere near the sea (the ocean, really) is going to be prime real estate. So yeah, mostly rich people live here. Homes selling for well over a million dollars each, apartments as high as $3000 - $5000 a month. I have no clue how Casey Affleck even got into town, let alone was allowed to live there. So, it was rather jarring to hear everyone speaking in this very affected Boston accent. They just don't on the North Shore, at least not this far from Boston and not in such an upper-crusty neighborhood. It just seems to be the only accent anyone thinks of when they think of Massachusetts, or when they think of Casey Affleck perhaps. The scenery was lovely, and of course, I know it all by heart. I could smell the ocean and drive the highways right along with the characters. But that's all that really drew me. Affleck has a slow and repetitive delivery of lines that makes me wonder if he is completely awake. His life is miserable, mainly due to being a heavy drinker. But this is never really acknowledged by anyone. I don't expect the alcoholic to recognize his problem is the beer, but surely someone he knows would mention it to him. His former life - which seemed fairly happy even though he moved through it like he was walking through cold molasses - was destroyed by one mistake. Now he suffers and seems to want to make himself suffer for that mistake. His penance is denial of happiness. Then things get worse when his brother dies and he has to decide if he can be guardian to his nephew. A chance for redemption that unlike Raskolnikov, he doesn't take. I really felt that this is a strong story told weakly and with too much emphasis on exaggerated accents than actual acting. Go watch it if you want to. Pay attention to the color of the North Atlantic, it is like no other ocean. I love it immensely. Enjoy the snow and the sorry state of Route 128 as he drives to the hospital. Enjoy being out on the ocean with them. Enjoy listening to them say "shahk" (shark) a dozen times. But it's a long 2 1/2 hours, so make sure you have a snack. Everyone else you know will have seen it, so you'd better see it. Otherwise, you will seem woefully out of touch.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
25 May 17
" . . . to avoid being mistaken for Manchester, New Hampshire." --- That's funny. I was sure the sentence would end with "Manchester, England." Who'd think of New Hampshire? :-)
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
25 May 17
The two Manchesters are very close in proximity as Manchester by the Sea is near the NH border. Manchester, England, on the other hand is about 3,000 miles away, so no one would mistake one for the other. They changed the name of the town many decades prior to it becoming the title of a movie. It had to do with local confusion, not international confusion.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
26 May 17
In the United States, no one would think of Manchester England.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
26 May 17
@BelleStarr This shows that I'm a European.
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@PatZAnthony (14752)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
27 May 17
Did not like Steel Magnolias one bit! Think Manchester by the Sea will be skipped by me. How would I ever get back that wasted 2 1/2 hours if I did watch it?
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@GardenGerty (157555)
• United States
2 Jun 17
@PatZAnthony But you would pay dearly for that seat to nap in and your bed time snacks.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
27 May 17
Well, you can always nap while you watch it so the time isn't completely wasted.
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@PatZAnthony (14752)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
27 May 17
@Rollo1 That's a good one!
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@LadyDuck (458197)
• Switzerland
25 May 17
I have been unable to appreciate the exaggerated accents, because I have watched the Italian version of the movie, that I have not liked at all.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
25 May 17
Thank you for not liking it. I am going to assume that most people who comment will have loved it. I always hold the unpopular opinions.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
25 May 17
On another note, I wonder if the movie is better in Italian? Perhaps I should watch it in French or Spanish.
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@LadyDuck (458197)
• Switzerland
25 May 17
@Rollo1 Sometimes another language helps to get rid of too strong accents. I usually do not like a lot the voices used in French translations, that are far too different from the original language, while Italians at least try to match the sound of the voice.
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@Tampa_girl7 (48958)
• United States
26 May 17
I haven't seen it yet and not sure that I will all the hoopla about "Hidden Figures" was spot on. I enjoyed it a lot.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
27 May 17
I will wait to see Hidden Figures. It will make its way to a streaming service eventually. But don't let me influence you on movies, I have strange tastes.
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@Tampa_girl7 (48958)
• United States
27 May 17
@Rollo1 my sister had it on a Netflix DVD.
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@DianneN (246838)
• United States
26 May 17
I saw it in Florida. I found it depressing and plain awful.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 May 17
You must have excellent taste.
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@DianneN (246838)
• United States
26 May 17
@Rollo1 Just like you! lol
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@just4him (306257)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
25 May 17
Interesting review. It seems the background is more interesting than the movie itself. I hadn't heard of it. If I have a chance to see it, I might, based on your review.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 May 17
Oh, you have to see it. Everyone will see it. Although there are many iconic movies that I have never seen, I won't ever admit to it.
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@just4him (306257)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
27 May 17
@Rollo1 I will look it up then and see what I can find. Thanks for your encouragement.
@GardenGerty (157555)
• United States
2 Jun 17
The story of my life. "Woefully out of touch."
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
2 Jun 17
I think we are better off that way, really.
• United States
25 May 17
I loved this film! Would watch it again even. Course I love Casey and I too love the scenery and remember it well.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
25 May 17
The scenery was the star for me. The actress who played the mother of the nephew's girlfriend is wonderful and I like her well in many films. I felt her talents were under-utilized. Most people will love the movie, I am just weird.
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• United States
25 May 17
@Rollo1 Not weird to me, I get what you are saying. Oh yes Michelle is great! She was fantastic in it. It didn't get very many high ratings really.
@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
26 May 17
I thought the same about LALA Land I was underwhelmed. Lion was very good and so was Hidden Figures.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 May 17
I haven't seen either. I am so out of touch with the world.
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@valmnz (17099)
• New Zealand
28 May 17
I could count the movies I've seen in the last five years, either at the theatre or on TV, on one hand probably. I am not a movie watcher.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
2 Jun 17
I haven't been out to a movie in about 9 or 10 years. I want to watch movies at home, but I can't make that kind of time commitment. I look for something to watch, see a good movie, then notice that it is 2 hours long. I think about committing to sit there for 2 hours and, even though I probably will sit for that amount of time or longer, it's the idea of being forced to do so in order to watch this thing to conclusion. So, I opt for an episode of a TV show that runs for a short amount of time. Life moves quickly, but movies are slow.
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@bluesa (15023)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
26 May 17
@Rollo1 , I also rarely understand what makes a popular movie so popular. I have not really enjoyed a movie in years. Life can be depressing enough on its own, I would not watch a movie that leaves me feeling so.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 May 17
The older I get, the more I prefer happy endings. Even sappy ones that I make fun of. I just don't need the extra tension.
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@bluesa (15023)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
27 May 17
@Rollo1 I am there with you. I can't handle drama or sorrow in a movie lately.
• United States
26 May 17
I was on the fence about seeing this movie but now I'm leaning more toward not
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 May 17
Oh, don't take my word for it. Everyone else loves it. It won awards. This is more a whine from me, and my opinion is probably not worth paying any heed.
• Midland, Michigan
26 May 17
I've watched movies before that others loved and I didn't enjoy myself, so I totally understand. I know people that live on or with past mistakes and can't seem to shake them or it shadows everything or a lot of what they do. They don't have a Boston accent, though. I doubt I'll see it, but I'll keep it in mind if I get bored. I spent time on that ocean just a little when I lived in New London Ct, but I think we were near the sound, and a bit when in NC some years back. It is gorgeous.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 May 17
I think that one of the most vivid memories of childhood will be the shock and sudden intake of breath that jumping into the cold Atlantic causes. I love everything about it, even the near cardiac arrest from the cold water.
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@JohnRoberts (109857)
• Los Angeles, California
25 May 17
Affleck is a Boston native so he would speak that way naturally. He actually won the Oscar for this. I can't judge not having seen the movie but never had any interest in doing so.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
25 May 17
The rest of the cast are not from South Boston, so they wouldn't naturally speak that way, and yet they do. I am not from Southie, but I can speak that way. It is not my natural accent, but one I have heard all my life from people who are from the metro Boston area. It's not a North Shore accent, though.
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@jstory07 (134465)
• Roseburg, Oregon
2 Jun 17
I really do not want to see that movie but you did do a great review.
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@Inlemay (17714)
• South Africa
12 Jun 17
I was considering this movie, but wasnt sure how it transpired. But I am now going to have to watch it so that I can pay attention to the colour of the North Atlantic ocean BTW I love Steel Magnolias and watch it at least once a year to remind me that we are humans and that we depend on each other most of the days of our lives.
@Poppylicious (11133)
26 May 17
I have to be honest, I did enjoy this film. Perhaps because it wasn't spoilt for me by knowledge of the area or accents. Seriously, I can only tell the difference between a southern and a non-southern American accent. :)
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 May 17
Well, it would kind of be like hiring Ozzie Osborne to play Winston Churchill.
@BettyB (4117)
• Summerville, South Carolina
8 Jun 17
I watch an occasional movie, but not many. This one doesn't sound like one I would enjoy.
@tzwrites (4835)
• Romania
25 May 17
I haven't watched it but I also don't feel very excited about it.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
25 May 17
I hope you never have to watch it, but if you do, you may like it. Lots of people love it. I don't.