California Initiates Travel Ban That They're Opposed To

@FourWalls (14207)
United States
June 24, 2017 8:57am CST
California leaders have been very vocal about opposing the so-called "travel ban" from six nations suspected of supporting terrorism. I say "so-called," because it's not a "ban," just an increased vetting process. But that doesn't matter. California has enacted its own travel ban. State workers cannot engage in any official travel to four states sponsoring what California describes more or less as "LGBT terrorism." On the list: Kentucky, because of a religious liberty law; North Carolina, because of its controversial "bathroom law;" Texas, for their law allowing parents to refuse to allow adoptions based on religious beliefs; Alabama and South Dakota, for what California says are laws that "could prevent LGBT couples from adopting or serving as foster parents;" Kansas, for allowing religious organizations to enforce their religious beliefs in school-based clubs; Mississippi, for passing a law that allows religious beliefs to not be considered "discrimination;" and Tennessee, for country music (just kidding -- and to see if you were reading -- in actuality, for passing a law that says counselors cannot be forced to give counseling that violates their religious beliefs). California says these laws are aimed at LGBT people. But think about it: if you're a woman who has no issue with premarital sex, do you really want a counselor who's a fundamentalist "no sex before marriage, and then only the missionary position" believer trying to help you with an issue? Or would a man dealing with sexual abuse at the hands of a priest want a Catholic counselor who thinks all these charges against the Catholic Church are a "Protestant conspiracy to attack the one true church"? Or, for that matter, would a deeply religious person want a counselor who's an atheist -- or would the atheist want to counsel someone who wants to discussion religion throughout the session? No, these bills aren't "aimed" at LGBT people. Only in California's twisted mind. It reminds me of something I heard McLean Stevenson say one night back in the 70s, when he was guest-hosting The Tonight Show for Johnny Carson: "California is like a bowl of granola. All you have are nuts, flakes, and fruits." We'll not miss you, California state workers. But you will miss us because by coming to these states -- six of which are southern states -- you might learn a thing or two about politeness, manners, and hospitality. Have a little California dreamin' on such a summer's day:
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@TheSojourner (17442)
• United States
24 Jun 17
I have suggested several people who I'm interested in hearing their opinion on this post. Knowing that there is prejudice/racism/homophobia, etc., etc. in this world, I am all for voicing my dissent...and often...when there are things happening to others based on people acting in a way that violates the rights of others to make their own choices in how they will believe, act, live. I will do this for all people, even when I am in disagreement with them. Though I understand "Californian" concern about these practices they see as harmful to the LGBTQ community, this is one of the most RIDICULOUS things I have ever heard. It's a classic knee-jerk reaction...an "I'll-show-THEM" move against the current administration...to try to prove a point. I think it is a rather sophomoric move, if you ask me, and one that will not effect any change, other than to try to piss people off. Now, I just wish the Washingtonians would reverse all the moves the Californians made to the PNW that have driven the WA'ns out of their homes and jobs. This used to be such a peaceful, easy-living state.
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@JohnRoberts (60138)
• Los Angeles, California
24 Jun 17
As a native Californian, I am sickened to what has happened to my state. The lunatics are in control. This is all you need to know about them: they brag about how California could secede from US and be one of the richest countries on earth and in the next breath go begging to Washington DC for desperately needed government funding. Gov. Brown once mentioned the idea of implementing a "departure tax" on those fleeing to leave the state.
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@FourWalls (14207)
• United States
24 Jun 17
Is this the same "governor Brown" who dated Linda back in the 70s? The rest of the country used to call him "governor moonbeam." Good taste in women, lousy taste in politics.
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@JohnRoberts (60138)
• Los Angeles, California
24 Jun 17
@FourWalls The same old Jerry Brown.
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@SonjaRae (4895)
• United States
25 Jun 17
Yikes
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@BelleStarr (39060)
• United States
24 Jun 17
That is the weirdest thing I have ever heard and it takes liberalism to a whole new level. I think McLean was correct!!
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@UncleJoe (10297)
• Virginia Beach, Virginia
24 Jun 17
None of it makes sense any more. Our state is trying to pass a law where all red-headed people will be banned from Virginia. They want to load all the gingers up in a truck and send them to Mexico. I guess that makes about as much sense as these other bans.
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@celticeagle (118615)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Jun 17
I think they've all gone crazy. California has been wanting to separate itself for a long time now. This doesn't really surprise me at all.
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@dragon54u (31615)
• United States
24 Jun 17
I have met many people from California and this kind of thinking is definitely not common among the residents. Why do the people put up with this crap? I'd say 95% of Californians would disagree with this crap and yet they let their state do this. The state government, like the federal government, works for the people--the people do NOT work for the state!!! Time to wake up and tell state and federal governments who is the boss--WE ARE THE BOSS, THEY ARE THE EMPLOYEES!!!!
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• United States
24 Jun 17
Wow.....unbelievable troglydite thinking.. Who would have thought CA the most progressive state?? at one time??? would have such backward authoritarian rules. Love this song..listening now.
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• United States
24 Jun 17
@FourWalls I saw that! Maybe it is time for the Federal Government to Instill a travel ban on California! Make it illegal to travel there from anywhere in the US and For them tor travel outside the state of California! LOL
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@SonjaRae (4895)
• United States
25 Jun 17
Umm that would mean, I'd never see my daughter or granddaughter again. There's got to be an alternate solution!!!!
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• United States
25 Jun 17
@SonjaRae 120 day Refugee Allowance!!
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@Corbin5 (109662)
• United States
24 Jun 17
California should definitely secede from the US. Won't be missed. Certainly should free up a lot of money for the USA.
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@Srbageldog (8613)
• United States
25 Jun 17
I am a Californian and I can tell you, the majority of us in Northern California do NOT have this crazy mindset! It's the people in big cities down south (namely L.A. and San Francisco, although I guess technically S.F. is part of the north) who push this type of agenda. And our state government is run by democrats who couldn't care less about us "little guys" up north. (To the point that they unanimously voted not to fix our levee systems which were severely damaged after a near catastrophe at the Oroville Dam earlier this year, nor are they too concerned with ensuring that the dam is structurally sound .-- I guess they don't care if our towns get wiped out by flood waters, it doesn't effect them in Southern California.) Anyway, I read about this travel ban and I think it's absolutely ridiculous. As usual, our state officials are making decisions that do not reflect the beliefs or opinions of at least half of the state! (Which is why Northern California is trying to break away and be it's own state...although I don't know if that will ever happen.) (Btw, I don't consider myself conservative or liberal...just someone who has common sense.)
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@SonjaRae (4895)
• United States
25 Jun 17
Interesting discussion. You made me laugh though in the midst of it at your "country music" statement. Yes I was paying attention! You made some very valid points. Good luck Cali, I say!!
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@Jessicalynnt (47895)
• Centralia, Missouri
26 Jun 17
I applauded California, maybe if these other states stopped being all phobic and actually protected others and their rights, they would drop their laws.
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@FourWalls (14207)
• United States
26 Jun 17
Louisville, KY is considered one of the most gay-friendly cities in America. Where's the "phobic" there?
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• Centralia, Missouri
28 Jun 17
@FourWalls not towns, states, to be fair these laws protecting rights should be federal, and laws stripping rights should be outlawed. it's not ok to discriminate.
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@FourWalls (14207)
• United States
28 Jun 17
@Jessicalynnt -- I know. That's why those three Jewish women getting thrown out of the lesbian pride parade in Chicago last week so infuriated me.
@TheHorse (67105)
• Pleasant Hill, California
24 Aug
I thought we were progressive in California.
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@inertia4 (27679)
• United States
25 Jun 17
I understand the issueCalifornia has with those laws. I personally think those laws are retarded and ridiculous. But those states have been ingrained in those beliefs for many many years. I know it'a hard to change peoples minds. But stopping people from visiting other states is stupid. All I can say is this, we are all people. No matter what color or race we are. No matter is we are gay or straight. We all should be treated equally. But we live in a country that now has shown its racist head and we now know it is alive and well here. That is so sad. We are in the 21st century. You would think that the country would have moved on. But the current president has made it possible for people to have again. Sick.
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@allen0187 (33444)
• Philippines
25 Jun 17
Crazy. Crazy. Crazy.
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@luispas (1719)
• Venezuela
25 Jun 17
I'm a little shocked by these news. Who would thought that California will do these nonsense laws? They are a little (or very) radical and orthodox, I just can't understand them. It looks like the Church, as always, thinks that they will always be right. They can't see, that instead of keep people united, they are pulling everyone against each other. It's really really sad.