Trying to Understand "Prayer" @CopelandNetwork (Forgiving them for 'Jumping onto the Bandwagon')
@mythociate (21437)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
December 5, 2017 11:32am CST
'The Bandwagon'-belief in prayer (whatever you might /think/ you think you believe 
) is that "your wish will come true if you get enough people to vote for your wish on God's prayer-praying tote-board" 
).
Of course, nobody says that's what they believe ... but that's the belief I sense people have when they tell friends they 'need lotsa our prayers' 
But 'something Ministry-Brother Kenneth Copeland did say in a recent article' indicated that maybe his 'belief that prayer is a matter of popular-vote' is more like a "seeing that 'everyone else' believes that way" (sort of like when a preacher makes a huge claim (like 'God will save us'), and everybody says "Amen"; and you know that it's not 'absolutely true' (because God will only save 'those who seek salvation'), but you say "Amen" just as firmly as anyone else!
Brother Copeland said that the Greek that's translated "ask" in Matthew 21:22, John 14:13, John 14:14, John 15:16 and John 16:23 http://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14-13.htm is better-translated 'demand.'
That makes me think that--when the Copeland teams say they're "praying for" their partners--they're actually 'making demands' ... oh, they're not "telling God to stop doing God's original will and to start doing something God never planned!" it's more like they're 'hearing God's will & helping-their partners & -themselves to obey as peaceably as possible.'
) is that "your wish will come true if you get enough people to vote for your wish on God's prayer-praying tote-board" ).
Of course, nobody says that's what they believe ... but that's the belief I sense people have when they tell friends they 'need lotsa our prayers'
But 'something Ministry-Brother Kenneth Copeland did say in a recent article' indicated that maybe his 'belief that prayer is a matter of popular-vote' is more like a "seeing that 'everyone else' believes that way" (sort of like when a preacher makes a huge claim (like 'God will save us'), and everybody says "Amen"; and you know that it's not 'absolutely true' (because God will only save 'those who seek salvation'), but you say "Amen" just as firmly as anyone else!
Brother Copeland said that the Greek that's translated "ask" in Matthew 21:22, John 14:13, John 14:14, John 15:16 and John 16:23 http://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14-13.htm is better-translated 'demand.'
That makes me think that--when the Copeland teams say they're "praying for" their partners--they're actually 'making demands' ... oh, they're not "telling God to stop doing God's original will and to start doing something God never planned!" it's more like they're 'hearing God's will & helping-their partners & -themselves to obey as peaceably as possible.'No responses
