ALL employees need to be recognised

Off to school
@JudyEv (325815)
Rockingham, Australia
February 21, 2018 4:47pm CST
MyLot member, yanzalong @yanzalong, wrote recently about a dinner party put on for staff members and site workers as a thank-you for their ‘working spirit’. In addition, in almost three years there had never been an accident which in itself is surely something very worthwhile to celebrate. You can read his discussion here: http://www.mylot.com/post/3156925/dinner-party-again. I was reminded of several incidents when my husband was working in large prestigious schools which had remarkable success records. Much was expected from the teachers but they were also rewarded well. There was always much talk about ‘school spirit’ and ‘school community’. Notices would go out for the ‘whole school’ photo or there might be an all-staff service in the chapel. But they didn’t really mean ‘whole school’ or ‘all staff’. They meant only all teaching staff. Administration staff, cleaners, groundsmen, catering staff – and there were many in these categories – weren’t included. It wasn’t so much that they weren’t welcome. They just weren’t even thought about. My husband was in charge of all non-teaching staff and fought long and hard to have them included. If they weren’t to be included, then at least be honest and state that what was really meant was ‘teaching staff’. At one school, it was compulsory for all staff to attend certain church services. However all the readings and homily were geared towards teaching and teachers. After attending the first one Vince took the chaplain to task telling him he should read his homily from the point of view of a cleaner or groundsman. At another, the ‘whole school’ photo eventually included all staff as opposed to all teaching staff. Even then, the Deputy Principal tried to scuttle the plan by insisting that everyone wear a coat and tie. Some didn’t own coats but we were able to rustle up enough so that everyone could be included. How could they expect total commitment and loyalty when half the employees were regarded as second-class? Schools and other establishments would fall over very quickly if it weren’t for the ‘little people’ who clean the toilets, wash the coffee cups, empty the bins, etc. It’s like that terrible joke about all the body organs having an argument over who is most important. In the end the anus wins because when he stops working, the other organs all collapse. The photo is of my siblings ready to leave for school.
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@Mike197602 (15487)
• United Kingdom
21 Feb 18
To be honest I'm lucky enough never to have worked for a company that looks down on certain levels off staff. At the moment I'm essentially a dishwasher (that does a bit of cooking) but it quite surprised me how much notice the highest manager takes of what I have to say. We do have managers/supervisors etc but we do work as a team really well and everyone is included in everything. What you described about your husbands situation would have annoyed me greatly and I very much doubt I'd have stayed in that sort of place long. In my opinion you can tell a lot about a company by how they treat the "little" people
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
I agree with you totally and Vince was always having to fight battles for some of the little people. Anyone with any sense would work out that it is the behind the scenes people who keep things ticking along smoothly. I'm glad your workplace recognises the value of each and every one of you.
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@WorDazza (15833)
• Manchester, England
22 Feb 18
I think you can also tell a lot about an individual by how they treat the 'little' people. I did end a relationship (albeit a fairly short term one) due to the way she spoke to waiters and bar-staff.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
@WorDazza That's true. The 'ugly' Australian in Bali is very rude. My nephew and his family are just the opposite and of course get fantastic service because of it. But it's just 'right' isn't it? To treat people with consideration. I also read a book on cleaning by a guy who started off cleaning and eventually had a big business with many employees. When he filled in one day for an absentee, the woman was very scathing towards him whereas he actually had a whole lot more assets than she was ever likely to have.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
21 Feb 18
One of your siblings was going to school on a horse? Some people think that they should have privileges. When I had a lot of volunteers on excavation sites, I always found important to treat them the same way than paid professionals : same restaurants, same places for the night. I had once somebody who complained about that, not directly but above, which was sneaky, and indeed the complaint came back to me, which is the bureaucratic way to deal with complaints He did not won a better meal or a better bed as everybody was in the same boat including myself, and I never recruited this guy again for other excavations.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
22 Feb 18
@JudyEv It confirms what I always thought : iron horses are more reliable than real horses. It is difficult today to find an excavation site opened to volunteers in France as the state forbids now to employ them in rescue/salvage excavations due to a problem of legal liability. I speak you of a time where we could do it for summer excavations. A few of the volunteers I had are now professional archeologists and I am proud of that.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
@topffer I understand. There is a website for all kinds of volunteering jobs but mostly they involve quite a large fee even to 'volunteer'. No doubt some of that goes in insurance in case someone gets hurt. It's good that some of your volunteers have gone on to be professionals. Must have been those soft beds you provided.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
That's my sister and brother. They are 8 years older than I am. The funny thing was that if my brother was sick and couldn't go to school, the pony would only go a little way then bring my sister back home. The pony wouldn't go to school unless the bike did! I'm glad you treated everyone the same. Volunteers provide a lot of free labour in a way and should certainly be treated as well as possible.
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@much2say (53958)
• Los Angeles, California
22 Feb 18
Oh yes - the little people and all the behind the scenes folks, no matter who they are, complete the village. In a sense, I kinda felt left out of something recently - though it wasn't important. Before Valentine's Day, all the teachers requested that anyone participating in the card exchange needed to bring enough Valentine's for everyone in the class. Our class had a list brought home of all the kids names, the teacher and another paid teacher's assistant who comes in every now and then. But in reality, there is another volunteer teacher's assistant who is there only twice a week, 3 of us moms who volunteer almost daily, and 2 other moms that volunteer occasionally. We volunteers weren't included in the list . Not that it truly mattered, but I felt kinda bummed because we actually do a lot of work for the teacher!
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@much2say (53958)
• Los Angeles, California
23 Feb 18
@JudyEv In my case, it's not so important . . . but in a company/work situation, I think "everyone" should mean everyone - that would only be fair, right? All should be included and be appreciated.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
This is exactly the kind of thing I mean. How would they get on if you all suddenly didn't turn up for a week or fortnight? They have no idea sometimes. It makes me really cross.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Feb 18
@much2say That is certainly how I think about it. If they don't mean 'everyone' they should just say who they do mean.
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
22 Feb 18
Good thing, you and your husband also think about the other workers too. In the company where I am employed since 11 years ago, is one very good company. We are given summer outings, monthly birthday party for all those who have their birthdays for the month, Christmas parties, all at the expense of the company. This is being done at all the affiliates. We are blessed to have kind owners.
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
23 Feb 18
@JudyEv Employees become so loyal to the company. I am now on my 11th year, after resigning from my bank job after more than 15 years.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
It is wonderful to hear this and I'm sure you'd all give 110% to the company in your work.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Feb 18
@SIMPLYD You've been very loyal to both companies. Good for you.
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@hereandthere (45651)
• Philippines
22 Feb 18
i am considerate and friendly to them. in fact, i'm more at ease around them. but i admire vince for actually doing something about it.
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• Philippines
22 Feb 18
@JudyEv i salute him for that. it's good to be remembered that way, that you helped fought for something, regardless of results.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
He managed to make a few changes during his time at those schools. Some of the teachers were very elitist.
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@Hannihar (129481)
• Israel
22 Feb 18
I am glad that your husband was rewarded. When I worked at the Thrift Shop I would get things there but stil had to pay for them. After the Thrift Shop closed there were some reunions. I only knew about one and went.
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@Hannihar (129481)
• Israel
23 Feb 18
@JudyEv I was a paid worker there Judy.
@valmnz (17099)
• New Zealand
2 Mar 18
You are so right. The best school I ever taught at included everyone in photos, staff parties and such. I have taught in schools where the caretaker never came in to morning tea, but I think that has changed in most schools now. When I started relief teaching fourteen years ago even we were considered outcasts at first. Now fulltime teachers know they couldn't exist without us.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Mar 18
It's good to know that attitudes are slowly changing. Sometimes it is just that people don't THINK. When a fact is pointed out to them the penny drops and most are quite happy to change their way of thinking - at least in cases like this.
• United States
22 Feb 18
i 'gree that all should've been honored. like ya wrote, if'n not fer the others doin' their jobs proper, the rest'd ne'er happened. dunno why the 'snobs' don't see such? very rude :( can only imagine mr. v's frustration through the years. love the pic! were ya 'llowed to park yer horse't school? when we'd still a 1 room school house, ya could. missed those days 's i'd always a friend durin' breaks :)
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• United States
22 Feb 18
@JudyEv don'tcha wish they'd such these days? schtuff's jest gotten so dang complicated. gigglin' o'er that ponies refusal to go without the bike. critters can be quite quirky
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
There was a communal paddock where the horses were let loose during the day. This little pony wouldn't go to school unless the bike did! If my brother was sick and had to stay home the pony would only go a short distance then bring my sister home again.
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@xFiacre (12597)
• Ireland
22 Feb 18
@judyev Whoever was in charge of those discriminating church services obviously hadn’t read their New Testament where Paul insists that all parts of the body are of equal value and worth even though they have differing roles.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
Except he wasn't preaching about body parts - thank God (not meaning to be blasphemous!)
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@shshiju (10342)
• Cochin, India
22 Feb 18
Coordinating all employees with in one umbrella with happy is a huge task. If we respect and love them and their job they will respect our self also.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
That is very true. It's important that everyone's work is acknowledged.
@DianneN (246905)
• United States
21 Feb 18
Our school systems recognized every staff member ever since I began my teaching career. Even at two of the three retirement dinners I had, custodians, cafeteria workers, principals, old and new, supervisors, assistant principals, secretaries, etc. attended. Everyone was included and also included in holiday parties, fundraisers, and after school get togethers. It was not the same at my husband's university, since it was fairly large and had many departments. Each department had its own way of recognizing its own. Everyone deserves recognition for their work, especially if it's deserved. Great photo!
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@DianneN (246905)
• United States
22 Feb 18
@JudyEv I agree!
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
I think it is so important for everyone to be recognised. Of course, some functions are just for certain members and that's fine but making a big song and dance about something being for 'everyone' when they mean just some is not on in my book.
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@teamfreak16 (43421)
• Denver, Colorado
25 Feb 18
That happens a lot. The cleaning lady is just as important as everyone else.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
2 Mar 18
That's for sure. Places really would cease to function without some of the support staff that often gets very little recognition.
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• Northampton, England
22 Feb 18
I separate state from religion
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Feb 18
Good idea.
• Philippines
22 Feb 18
yeah... i definitely agree on this...
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
Thanks. I think everyone's contribution to a company is important.
• Philippines
22 Feb 18
@JudyEv yes indeed... from the lowest position of course.. the one in the highest position won't be in that position without the help in the lower ranks... i do believe on that
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@yanzalong (18984)
• Indonesia
22 Feb 18
The photo is an old one but remains memorable, right?
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
Yes, it is very old. I am lucky to have a lot of old photos.
@jstory07 (134476)
• Roseburg, Oregon
22 Feb 18
I think that happens in most place of business. All employees keep the business going and should should be included in parties,
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
Yes, I think so too.
@amadeo (111948)
• United States
21 Feb 18
I love the photo what year was that there.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
That's my brother and sister and if they were, say 10 or 11, it would have been 1948 or 49.
@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
21 Feb 18
Very true. We have to uplift every employees big and small. Who would clean the offices if there are no janitors.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
That's true and in a school, the teachers certainly wouldn't want to do it.
@WorDazza (15833)
• Manchester, England
22 Feb 18
Those sort of attitudes towards supposedly less important staff members really, really annoy me. I see it at work every day in the way some people speak to the cleaners and the catering staff. But those same people would be the first to complain if their desks weren't cleaned and they had nothing to eat at lunchtime.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
Exactly. Some have such an inflated sense of their own importance it's embarrassing.
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@franxav (13603)
• India
21 Feb 18
Everyone has a role to play in any school, like the parts of the body. If one of them refuses to work it becomes difficult for the school to function smoothly.
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@JudyEv (325815)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 18
That's very true. All are important.