thou shalt not bear false witness
prayers accuse lord jesus
prayers accuse our father
Repeating Unsupported Claims ... a Worse Sin than "Lying"?
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
May 24, 2018 8:11am CST
This is why I 'rail against' people who claim to "pray 'for others'"---because you never really do! Oh, you can 'hope things go well for them'; and I'm sure a lot of you can give me lots of examples of people 'requesting that God change his plans for people' (Abraham for Lot's city, Jesus for His disciples, etc.). But no. God's plans do not change. What will happen is what was always going to happen. The only thing we can change is 'how we (humans) handle it, and the choices we make (whether to let the bad things happen or to stop them if we can, and then choosing the best way to survive if we can't stop the bad things).' 'Claiming something good happened because you prayed' is like 'claiming it started raining because you danced around.' This is why The Commandment was "thou shalt not bear false witness," and not 'thou shalt not lie or -knowingly speak something that's not true.' http://biblehub.com/interlinear/exodus/20-16.htm (tho the original text is more like 'don't testify against your neighbor') 'Praying for someone else' testifies against Our Father, and/or -against Jesus Himself! Lord Jesus 'Himself' (maybe that's what the "H" stands for in "Jesus H. Christ"!) says that Our Father knows our prayed-for needs before we speak them. We would only 'pray for someone else' if we didn't believe God could hear their need---the pray-er either thinks Our Father's gotten hard-of-hearing in his old age, or thinks that Lord Jesus was lying!
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Obviously ... I'm not saying 'You shouldn't pray for someone else.' I guess I'm saying more that you can't ... you can 'hope things go well for someone else'--even going as far as "asking God to 'say the magic words' or 'part the seas' or 'make them able to walk on water' (or whatever else you think God does if you ask him real nice).' But the only thing that your prayers can do is 'help you find what you-yourself need.' Praying for others? Why? ... the only reason I can think you might do that: so that you don't feel guilty about what they're going through. And "Jesus H. Christ" is an exclamation they'll often make in movies. (I think this explanation is a joke but it's a good start if you want to find the answer)