Let's Talk About Money #2

@porwest (78761)
United States
August 4, 2018 2:59pm CST
Never, ever, EVER rely on simply a paycheck to pay your way through life. If you do this, you will surely wind up at the end of the road broke. It's not a matter of IF. It is a matter of when. The problem is that most people do not realize that while most of the time you can always get another job, there may come a time in life when you cannot work. Be it health issues, age, or some other reason, you simply may not have the option to have a job at all. And without a job there is of course no paycheck, assistance has limitations and so does social security and disability... So you HAVE to live your working life as though there will never be a job ever available again. That is, you must live frugally, you must save your money, and more importantly—instead of spending loads of time trying to figure out how to break the next level on the latest video game, how to find that one next piece for that puzzle you are working on, or trying to keep up with the Jones', you should be spending your time trying to figure out how to create money and create wealth from things OTHER than your paycheck. Such as learning the art of investing and earning dividends, selling cash secured puts and covered calls in the stock market and collecting premiums. Even doing things like MyLot can be helpful and important additional income streams that can pay off for years to come if you spend your earnings on things that grow instead of things that do not. If you can accumulate money not only will the present be better, paying less for interest on larger purchases or being able to take more frequent vacations without having to resort to credit cards or loans, but the future will be better too. At a minimum you should have an emergency fund set aside that can cover any unexpected major expense like a car repair or a furnace going out. Then you should have at minimum about six months worth of equivalent salary in a savings account so you can weather a sudden job loss and have time to either find a new one, or figure out how you deal with whatever your current situation is that has affected your work life. Then you should have the rest of the money at the very least tucked away in strong companies that pay dividends in the stock market. If you do these things it will not guarantee you will never be broke. Major catastrophes can still happen, like getting cancer or something like that which can be financially devastating. But you will have much more a fighting chance if at the end of the work road you have worked as hard on your finances as you did on the job, protecting yourself, buying some time, and making your life much more financially manageable in the end. Money is not everything. But story after story has been told of those who did nothing to keep their financial ship afloat, who struggled to either tread water without the boat, or had to spend untold amounts of time simply plugging holes in what boat they had left that there was no time to actually FIX the boat right, or get a better boat.
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@yoalldudes (35040)
• Philippines
5 Aug 18
Exactly. A fighting chance. We should at least have a cushion for unexpected life events.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
25 Feb 20
It is a must in my book. Otherwise all you have to rely on is incurring debt. It becomes a vicious cycle. It's part of the reason people who do not have money who say they are happy, I believe are lying to themselves. When you are living paycheck to paycheck, in debt up to your eyeballs, and find yourself in a panic when the car breaks down... You cannot be happy.
@yoalldudes (35040)
• Philippines
28 Feb 20
@porwest Life will throw stuff at you and it is more difficult when it happens on top of a financial difficulty.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
29 Feb 20
@yoalldudes This is very true, which is why it is so important to always be prepared for what life throws at you. It does not GUARANTEE success. But it sure helps to avoid massive failure.
@JohnRoberts (109857)
• Los Angeles, California
4 Aug 18
Sage advice. Well expressed. I think there should be financial responsibility courses for kids early on in education. The message needs to be pounded home money doesn't grow on trees, the ATM isn't a magical money machine, not even a socialist government is going to pay your freight and you can make just as good a cup of coffee at home to go instead of paying Starbucks prices.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
8 Nov 18
@JohnRoberts It generally amazes me that schools DON'T teach simple money matters. It seems like one of the most important lessons one can ever learn in life, and yet...it is almost nonexistent.
@porwest (78761)
• United States
8 Nov 18
@sharon6345 If anyone is going out and buying a pre-made cup of coffee, they are ALWAYS paying WAY more for their coffee than if they were to brew it themselves. I probably ultimately pay about 3 cents for a cup of coffee.
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@Shellyann36 (11385)
• United States
11 Aug 18
It is best to save it while you are young because when one can no longer work the money will still be needed.
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@Shellyann36 (11385)
• United States
13 Aug 18
@porwest Yep these days its best to start from the cradle.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
12 Aug 18
Starting as early as possible is key to great wealth in the end. With compounding, over time, money just grows faster and faster.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
16 Aug 18
@Shellyann36 It stinks when we can't do that. Not sure where I got it from, but it was instilled in me very early on and I was able to amass good wealth as a result. I cannot imagine not having money.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
8 Nov 18
I also save money, every time payday comes. But I also see to it that I enjoy some of it, because life is short.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
10 Nov 18
But of course. The idea is to invest wisely what you save so you can have fun off the proceeds and dividends rather than the principal. When you have enough saved, it becomes a second or third income.
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@Bensen32 (27509)
• United States
25 Feb 20
All very good advice thank you.
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@Bensen32 (27509)
• United States
26 Feb 20
@porwest Yep, you can tell people but getting them to listen might be another story.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
29 Feb 20
@Bensen32 I wish more people were receptive to learning more about what they can do to improve their financial lives. It seems everyone WANTS it. Few want to do the work to actually ACHEIVE it.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
26 Feb 20
Always happy to share. If one person can get something out of it, it is worth it.
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@aureliah (24319)
• Kenya
5 Aug 18
I love this advise and that is one reason currently I'm taking risks and any chance that comes up for me to make an extra coin. Also learning about different investment options
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@aureliah (24319)
• Kenya
27 Apr 20
@porwest This is very well said. Some will invest just because someone else has been making money or they just want to do it. without research and focus
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
28 Apr 20
@aureliah Exactly. I don't go into a stock based on what a few analysts say. I look at what they say, decide if I am interested, and then go and do my OWN research to know if the stock is the right fit for my portfolio or not and if I agree with the analyst's analysis.
@porwest (78761)
• United States
29 Feb 20
Investing can be tough for some in that you are GOING to lose money in the beginning. It's just part of the learning process. BUT, if one sticks with it, learns from their mistakes, the financial future they will enjoy as a result of that is an endless possibility. Most people do not do enough research, just jump in blindly, lose their money, and then leave thinking it's rigged. The reason people DON'T make money in the markets is simply because they do not know what they are doing.
@id_peace (14005)
• Singapore
5 Aug 18
All these are so good. You have a very good ideology. Almost like what I had.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
7 Aug 18
The more you save the more you have. Most people think saving means sacrificing. But the truth is the less you save, the more you have to give up.
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@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
4 Aug 18
Very well said. I am working on some savings and some investments that we can have even if we started small. I hope it will turn out good.
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@JudyEv (325594)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Aug 18
Great post. When we suddenly had to replace our car, we were very thankful that we had the funds available to enable us to do it. It just means we need to die a year or two younger (that's a joke!)
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
6 Dec 18
lol. Either way, if I have nothing to fall back on but plastic...I am definitely doing something very wrong. Been one of my mantras in life. When there is money in the bank it makes everything so much better.
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@lovebuglena (43065)
• Staten Island, New York
6 Dec 18
Great advice. It is definitely a must to be frugal and to save wherever possible, especially when shopping for things like groceries. A person can't just work and go home and work and go home... and do nothing else. There has to be some entertainment, and going out, and travel in a person's life. That requires money and hence using the savings. While splurging a bit, it is important to put money aside toward the savings, so that when there is no job you can still pay those bills and buy at least the necessities for survival. And it should be done every month, if not every week or few weeks. No matter the amount set aside every bit helps to increase those savings.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
8 Dec 18
That is the one thing people get confused about savings. It is actually the other way around. Most people who do not save their money make more sacrifices than those who do. Money makes money. Spending money makes the need the make more. I can afford to go out more than my friends who do not save. I have the money to do it BECAUSE I save. And more often than not my non-savings friends tell me things like, "I'd love to join you and your wife for dinner, but I don't get paid till Friday and money's a bit tight right now." My wife and I still go out to dinner while my non-savings friends make the sacrifice of staying at home. WORST case scenario they say, "Sure, let's do it," and then pay for it with a credit card. I have always saved my money, and because of that I can afford to make large down payments on vehicles to reduce my monthly payments, I can afford to take trips to Mexico and other places, if the car breaks down I can afford to make the repairs without having to whip out plastic. And if I lose my job, I can afford to live until I find another one.
@andriaperry (116860)
• Anniston, Alabama
4 Aug 18
Now I wonder how many will use this advice? We are cut from the same cloth.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
6 Dec 18
My guess is very few unfortunately. There is a reason there is a large separation between the haves and have nots.
@NJChicaa (115972)
• United States
4 Aug 18
You are very smart and focused when it comes to finances. I am not which is why I let my husband deal with it all. I have been putting money into a 403(b) for 14 years now. That is going to be my supplement for retirement in addition to my pension and Social Security. That's about the only positive thing I can say about my "saving".
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@JohnRoberts (109857)
• Los Angeles, California
4 Aug 18
It's good you are taking advantage of the 403. I worked with people who didn't take advantage of that. You have a nice nest egg growing for yourself.
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@NJChicaa (115972)
• United States
4 Aug 18
@JohnRoberts That was the one smart thing that I did for myself. It is a shame that there are no matching contributions but that is what happens when you work in the public sector. I guess the pension is the "matching" contribution but I contribute to that too. Every year I add a bit more to my biweekly contribution to it.
@Kasjnak (4492)
• Romania
4 Aug 18
You are right and I heard some of these ideas before. The problem is our human nature, most of people know they should do things differently, but they just can't help it. I am one of those people. I do get a decent paycheck, but I have many debts and I find myself struggling most of the time. I started something now, but it's gonna take some time, I think I need at least 5 years before reaching my goal. Hopefully I'll get there .
@yoalldudes (35040)
• Philippines
5 Aug 18
I'm glad you brought this up. I personally buy on impulse out of an emotional need to be happy or get a high. We don't want to miss out on life as well like eating our favorite foods, getting the things we want. But we know it costs us our freedom to be financially free.
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@Kasjnak (4492)
• Romania
5 Aug 18
@yoalldudes as I said, it's our human nature. We'll always be like this, but this is actually a demon we must fight. It's like a car engine, if you always stay on the red, sooner or later it will stall or even worse, explode. I don't want that .
• United States
17 May 20
all of this is so important!! I have family members and friends who just spend and spend and I can't understand why. I'm all for treating yourself with buying something once in a while but it's better to save what you can as often as you can. I'm pretty frugal and I like finding inexpensive ways to get around expensive problems.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
18 May 20
As I always like to say, money is not the end all to be all, but HAVING it is peace of mind. It's comfort. It's freedom. We are seeing now, in these times, more than ever the importance of saving. You just never know what is going to happen and it is better to be prepared than stuck.
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@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
12 Sep 18
I bought a little cottage and it had a monthly fee as it was leasehold. I had bills for electricity, gas, water and phone. I was working in an office and I was very upset to be made redundant. It was difficult to find another job. In the end I had to let my cottage and take a trip around the world. In Australia I was able to work because I had a working holiday visa.
@DianneN (246608)
• United States
4 Aug 18
You certainly have the right idea. We've done all that with financial advisors, other investments, savings accounts, and interest bearing checking accounts. Now that we are retired, we are earning more than when we both had careers.
@just4him (305907)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
5 Aug 18
My boat sprung leaks as a child. I was told I would always be poor, while my parents were investing in the stock market and not telling any of us kids they did so, or telling us how not to be poor. They lived poor while putting money away for their retirement years. They had all of us believing we were poor. Though nothing added up that way to my way of thinking. I worked hand to mouth all my life because nobody, and I mean nobody, told me how to save or invest. Not until I was about ten years from retirement. By then it was too late for many investment types, though I tried with the 401K and a Roth IRA. My ship sunk when I got married. The guy didn't want to work. I was the one holding the fort together with chewing gum and rubber bands. However, I have something going for me that I've had all my life. Persistence and the will to survive no matter what storm comes my way. I have no intention of dying a pauper. I know I have it in me to be a millionaire when I'm finally called home, leaving this life behind me.
@db20747 (43426)
• Washington, District Of Columbia
13 Sep 18
Please do tell us a little more about cash secured puts and covered calls!!!!
5 Aug 18
This is very encouraning! I'm into "Barefoot Investor " financial guide. What you are saying is similar to what BI is helping us through.
@Berrygal (5834)
6 Aug 18
This was insightful, it worth saving and investing money. Where can one invest online?