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all hearsay
When Did People Stop Believing in "Innocent until Proven Guilty"?
@mythociate (21437)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
October 5, 2018 4:12pm CST
People assume Brett Kavanaugh is guilty of the terrible-terrible things people say he's done ... for no other reason than 'that they say he did them!'
And then they laughingly say, "Well; if someone reacts the way he did, they must be guilty!" They make their final judgement on him with the same evidence people use to conclude that Jesus of Joseph died on a cross and rose again after a few days: that lots and lots of others SAY it happened.
Now people are upset that the FBI-Report on their investigation of Kavanaugh's past was (according to a senator who 'read' it) https://twitter.com/mythmanjay/status/1048284328726319104 "a sham. Its purpose was not to get to the bottom of the allegations against Judge Kavanaugh. Its purpose was not to find the truth. Its purpose was to give cover."
I would say (with the faith I have in the FBI) that she read it wrong; she read it LOOKING FOR 'a bunch of guilt-mongers trying to pin the guilt on Kavanaugh,' and instead she saw 'exactly the report the bureau makes when there's no "evidence."'
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@FourWalls (62145)
• United States
5 Oct 18
When did they stop believing in “innocent until proven guilty”? When there was a “republican” designation after the accused’s name.
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@FourWalls (62145)
• United States
6 Oct 18
@Janet357 — she was a beagle mix, hardly purebred, just a little ol’ Heinz 57 mixed breed who was the sweetest thing on earth.
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@Janet357 (75656)
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6 Oct 18
@FourWalls they are always the sweet babes we can have. I have had fur babies of different breeds but the sweetest one is a japanese spitz. It never growls at us.
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@xander6464 (40884)
• Wapello, Iowa
6 Oct 18
They did a sham investigation but they obviously found something or else the report wouldn't be kept secret. It would be published everywhere.
And if you don't care about the rape, fine. What about the perjury?
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@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
6 Oct 18
Would you remember all your partying & drinking 30+ years ago flawlessly?
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@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
6 Oct 18
@xander6464 Remind me what the "perjury" was ...
Was it "doctor" Ford testifying that trauma does exactly the opposite of what it actually does to the memory?
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@xander6464 (40884)
• Wapello, Iowa
6 Oct 18
@mythociate I can say I never raped anyone, does that count for anything? With 40% of Americans, it doesn't. I can certainly remember that I didn't commit perjury last week. But that doesn't seem to matter, either.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
5 Oct 18
To make our own idea about the content of this report and tell if she read it wrong or not, we would have to read it, and it is not possible ; believing 1 senator or another about it, is just a matter of personal conviction similar to what you denounce at the beginning of this discussion.
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@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
6 Oct 18
http://untrapped.com.au/metoo-scales-justice/
@Cristi_Ichim (3663)
• Bucharest, Romania
7 Oct 18
The presumption of innocence should be valid until proven guilty all the time in my opinion. If people don't respect the "innocent until proven guilty" principle then they are doing some abuse. I don't have information about the case you mentioned though so I will not go on to judge in any way that case.
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@NJChicaa (116002)
• United States
5 Oct 18
The FBI was not allowed to investigate certain people and many people (up to 40) who came forward have said that they contacted the FBI and were not gotten back to. That is NOT a "thorough and complete" investigation. That is definitely a sham.
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@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
6 Oct 18
Oh, I bet HUNDREDS of people have 'called in' with "honest recollections." https://media.giphy.com/media/Fml0fgAxVx1eM/giphy.gif
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
6 Oct 18
@NJChicaa only 40 that weren't obviously made-up stories (but only most-likely made-up stories)
@Janet357 (75656)
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6 Oct 18
A lot of cases like this happen around the world. They are the real culprits but the victims need to prove before the court that they have committed such. But some are so good in outsmarting the law and so on, so how can one achieve justice on this, if this will be the case?
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
6 Oct 18
Something I'm sure none of the accusers did, something that proves this isn't a "Christian nation."
Bible > 1 Corinthians > Chapter 6 > Verse 1? 1 Corinthians 6:1 ?Verse (Click for Chapter)New International VersionIf any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord's people?New Livin
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