Back when I made $500/month writing on the internet

@TheHorse (207296)
Walnut Creek, California
March 28, 2019 10:47pm CST
Some of us have been writing on the internet long enough to remember when you could make real money here. My introduction to writing on the internet occurred around 2000, when Ms Horse and I were watching a San Francisco Giants baseball game on TV. There was a TV ad for "Epinions, a site that had us to write reviews of products we'd used. We both signed up. As with MyLot, there was an active and (mostly) friendly community there. I established myself as a solid reviewer of music, stereo equipment, and guitars, and was making about $500/month (mostly in passive income) when the site closed down in the early to mid 2010s. I'll attach a sample review I wrote back in 2000. Check it out if you're interested in really nice and relaxing guitar music. @FourWalls will recognize the artist I review. Many others will not. Here goes: Alex DeGrassi's First Album of Guitar Music Nov 22, 2000 (Updated Nov 22, 2000) Review by Horswispr Rated a Very Helpful Review Pros:Beautiful solo guitar music from one of the masters Cons:A bit hard to find I think Alex DeGrassi was a carpenter who played some guitar on the side when his cousin, Windham Hill founder William Ackerman, asked him to record for his new label in the late 1970s. Windham Hill was the record label that became synonymous with “New Age” music during the 1980s, introducing us to such musicians as George Winston, Shadowfax, Michael Hedges, and DeGrassi. Turning: Turning Back (1978) was DeGrassi’s first album, and it remains one of my favorites. In fact, I believe Turning: Turning Back was the first Windham Hill recording of music not by Ackerman himself. Since Ackerman was a good but not great guitarist, it might not be a stretch to say that Turning: Turning Back was a very important album in the evolution of the Windham Hill label, and by extension, of the New Age movement. And now, A CONFESSION: I find much New Age music BORING. George Winston’s early piano music is “pretty,” but not nearly as challenging or interesting as the piano music of Keith Jarrett. Shadowfax is almost jazz, but not quite. I’ll take Miles over Shadowfax any day. And William Ackerman’s first two records, Turtle’s Navel and It Takes a Year, were pleasant, but so musically simple that I found myself saying “I could do that” every time I listened, rather than enjoying the music. Yanni and Kenny G. (NOT Windham Hill artists) make me gag, but that’s another story. When I first heard DeGrassi’s Turning: Turning Back, I literally sat up on the edge of my chair. There was a smile on my face, and my fingers were in awe. This was some amazing guitar playing! Yes, it is relaxing, like most Windham Hill albums, but it also INTERESTING. Once I started listening to DeGrassi, I could never listen to Ackerman’s guitar recordings again. Turning: Turning Back is an album of solo guitar music, played in a gentle finger picking style, on a steel string acoustic guitar. DeGrassi uses alternative tunings on most of his songs, so the sound is different from what most of us are used to. The music itself replete with suspensions, interesting chord changes, and changes in finger picking patterns, yielding a sound that is both beautiful and challenging. One can hear folk, classical, jazz, and Irish influences in the music, but these influences blend into a style that is uniquely DeGrassi. The overall feeling of the music is more happy than sad, but there is also something wistful about it. If you want acoustic guitar music to make you shout out loud or challenge the Gods, check out Michael Hedges’s early albums. Turning: Turning Back is more like a beautiful fall afternoon, with windblown leaves of varying colors falling in unpredictable paths to the ground. In fact, I’ve seen DeGrassi’s music described as “impressionistic,” and I wouldn’t argue with that description. The tune list: Turning Swordfish Luther’s Lullaby Blood and Jasmine Window Children’s Dance Waltz and March of the Rhinoceri Alpine Medley Autumn Song Turning Back For those of you who play guitar, I have figured out parts of two of the songs on this album. Turning, which begins the album, is in EBEF#BE tuning, capoed up a few frets. Children’s Dance is in DADGBE (“drop D”) tuning, capoed up several frets. Both are fun tunings to experiment with. An interesting note: I had a chance to speak with DeGrassi after a San Francisco performance a couple of years ago, and I asked him about the guitar used on this recording. He said that the guitar used was nothing special, probably less fancy than what most of us with Martins or Taylors are playing these days. I honestly think DeGrassi had no idea how big Windham Hill, or he, would become. If you are looking for solo guitar music that is both interesting and a pure joy to listen to I heartily recommend you check out Turning: Turning Back, as well as Slow Circle, DeGrassi’s second album. A final audiophile note: If you still have a turntable, I recommend the record over the CD version of this album. I was just listening to the CD version, and it is good, but a bit brighter and less natural than the original Windham Hill vinyl recording. Regardless, you’re in for a real treat if you don’t know DeGrassi’s music and you check out this record or CD.
"A Windham Hill Retrospective" version, 1992. Copyright: (P) 1992 Windham Hill Records
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@Mavic123456 (21898)
• Thailand
29 Mar 19
i always admire people who can really write. Writing entertaining and yet informative.
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@Mavic123456 (21898)
• Thailand
29 Mar 19
@TheHorse well, you might need some inspiration. hmm..is this a correct response?
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
@Mavic123456 I wonder what will inspire me next!
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 Mar 19
I admire those who can write as well. I wish I could be more prolific when it come to writing songs.
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@karakay (366)
• Philippines
29 Mar 19
Wow! That's great! I didn't know one could earn that much by giving reviews.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 Mar 19
That was back in the early days. Here's another cool DeGrassi song.
windham hill recording artist
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 Mar 19
@kepweng Review sites that pay handsomely? If I did, I'd be writing there.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 Mar 19
@kepweng Not to my knowledge.
@LadyDuck (460040)
• Switzerland
29 Mar 19
We always have a turntable because we always preferred the record versions of musics and songs. I started late to write online, when the earnings were already declining, but I made pretty good money with Squidoo. When it closed I moved to Bubblews, the earnings were pretty good, but the site not good. I think that making a living writing online is a thing of the past.
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@LadyDuck (460040)
• Switzerland
31 Mar 19
@TheHorse I know.
@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
31 Mar 19
It is. JJ also still listens to a lot of vinyl.
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@JudyEv (326648)
• Rockingham, Australia
29 Mar 19
That's a really good review. I'm in awe.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
I'd be in awe if I could play like DeGrassi. I do a couple of his tunes using the "leave out the parts that are too hard to play" method.
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@Hannihar (129636)
• Israel
29 Mar 19
@TheHorse Thanks The Horse for sharing that with us.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
31 Mar 19
Bevakasha.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
9 May 19
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@Hannihar (129636)
• Israel
31 Mar 19
@TheHorse That was great The Horse. I understood what you wrote but I am sure a lot others did not.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
30 Mar 19
Those were the days back then. People were throwing all kinds of money around trying to be the "new wave" of social media. Most of it fizzled of course because the money they gave out was just not sustainable. But yes, some of us were able to cash in at least in the interim.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
Yep, and I was proud to be a member of Epinions. It had some integrity. Did you write on Bubblews? What a fiasco that place was. I could tell it was "smarmy" and "shady" from day 1. But I grabbed a few bucks and ran.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
@porwest It was really creepy when that owner guy thought people wanted to read his writings and such.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
30 Mar 19
@TheHorse I was on Bubblews for quite a while, and I did the same. Just grabbed my money and ran. I made a couple thousand during my time there, and it ALWAYS felt too good to be true. But so long as they were cutting the checks I was there to collect them until the you-know-what hit the fan eventually.
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@1hopefulman (45123)
• Canada
29 Mar 19
First time I hear of this artist! Great guitarist and review! Yes, I remember the good ol days of earning real money on the internet that I had to declare as income.
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@1hopefulman (45123)
• Canada
30 Mar 19
@TheHorse When it came to writing it was Bubblews. There were a few investments sites where I made some real good money.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 Mar 19
Ah, that's right! I paid taxes on my Epinions earnings. What was your most lucrative site?
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
@1hopefulman What are investment sites?
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@FourWalls (62616)
• United States
29 Mar 19
Excellent review. And, no, I only know the name from having seen it in music publications. I'm not familiar with his work. But thank you for the compliment.
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@FourWalls (62616)
• United States
31 Mar 19
@TheHorse -- it's relaxing, enjoyable music (which is the purpose of "new age," I guess). I also listened to "Deep At Night" from a different album.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 Mar 19
I've attached a couple of links. I wonder if you'd like him.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
31 Mar 19
@FourWalls That's a slightly later album, with more reverb. But I still like it.
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@simone10 (54189)
• Louisville, Kentucky
29 Mar 19
I wish I knew about sites like that back then. It seems like those days are long gone.
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@simone10 (54189)
• Louisville, Kentucky
30 Mar 19
@TheHorse It's sad isn't it? It's hard to find any legit sites online.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 19
@simone10 It is. I feel comfortable being here.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 Mar 19
They are.
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@whiteream (8567)
• United States
3 May 19
I remember when you could do that. I am doing my best to still try and make a living writing and working online. Now, the best way to do that is come up with your own products or services and sell them.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 19
Yes, I do that with my loudspeaker restoration. But it's not enough to live on (though it's way more than I make on MyLot, etc.).
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 19
@whiteream It's right about where I want it right now. Thanks!
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@whiteream (8567)
• United States
3 May 19
@TheHorse Keep doing it and hopefully it will build and you will get more sales. I wish you the best in all that you do.
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• Philippines
11 Apr 19
I miss listening to vinyl records but CD is my thing. I used to earn $400 /month writing online (back in 2006) plus a few bucks from articles that get purchased for $50-$75 each. Sadly I can no longer earn as much now.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Apr 19
As Archie and Edith Bunker sang, "Those we the days."
@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Apr 19
What was your most lucrative site?
• Philippines
15 Apr 19
@TheHorse it was BrightHub and Suite101 for me.
• Northampton, England
29 Mar 19
I tried e opinions . Have you tried any new places?
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 Mar 19
No. I'm here and nowhere else. Were you at Epinions during the good days?
@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
@thedevilinme Bolder? Expansive? Elaborate!
• Northampton, England
29 Mar 19
@TheHorse yep, and ciao and dooyooo. Virily.com pays like this site but much bolder and more expansive for writes.
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@arunima25 (85807)
• Bangalore, India
29 Mar 19
Those were golden days. I am sad that I came to this online earning world very late.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
29 Mar 19
I'm glad I was there to be a part of Epinions. Bubblews made me sad.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
@arunima25 Yes, I'd say the "glory days" of writing sites (for money) were in the mid 2000s.
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@arunima25 (85807)
• Bangalore, India
30 Mar 19
@TheHorse I never knew of these sites. I explored of online earnings seriously when I was planning to take a break from my job. And by then these were not there.
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29 Mar 19
Oh my, Epinions.. those were the days, no.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
We're you around and writing in those days?
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 19
@ihasaquestion Too bad it disappeared.
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30 Mar 19
@TheHorse Yes I love Epinions it's such a cool site..
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• United States
31 Mar 19
supposedly you can still make relatively good money transcribing audio for closed caption type things.but my hearing's not that great,so not for me.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 19
Heh. I can't type that fast!
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
30 Mar 19
That's good money for writing reviews. i came to the internet late in life and have never earned much.
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@RasmaSandra (73983)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
30 Mar 19
well, that is a great accomplishment. I write and write and write and appreciate every bit I earn. Wish I could begin making more but I will keep trying and I am always online here, there, and everywhere.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
Those were the days.
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@norcal (4890)
• Franklinton, North Carolina
29 Mar 19
I started writing on the Internet in 2011. I was laid off from my job, and had a broken foot, so I was looking around on the Internet to see if there was any opportunity there. I stumbled across a place called HubPages, and I started writing some random stuff there. Every one on the site was talking about how Penguin and Panda had ruined everything, and they couldn't make money there anymore. Anyway, I hung in there, and I still write there sometimes. It's had its ups and downs. My best month I made just short of $300, like 298.63. Last month I made about $140. That's really pretty music.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
What do you write about there? I agree that DeGrassi's music is "something else."
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@norcal (4890)
• Franklinton, North Carolina
31 Mar 19
@TheHorse I have ended up writing a lot about music, but I have written about crafts, health issues, home and gardening stuff. If you are curious, my name is sherry hewins over there. You might do well writing there.
29 Mar 19
I am taking writing courses and looking to write as a side hustle.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
30 Mar 19
What kinds of tings would you like to write about?
@Junbals (1421)
• Philippines
8 May 19
500 dollars was a lot of money.
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@TheHorse (207296)
• Walnut Creek, California
9 May 19
Yes, and it was mostly passive income. It was perfect for a guy who worked in social services and wasn't paid as much as one would expect, given my qualifications.
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