Do you agree that dogs/cats bred below the breed standard should be desexed?

@minsmins (162)
Philippines
January 11, 2007 1:57am CST
Regardless if they belong to Champ lines, they should be neutered/spayed (remove overies) to stop the multiplication of fault. Example, a brown-nosed Lhasa Apso (Breed Standard: nosed should be black); Genetic fault yes, but it is also possible for them to produce breed standard pups, considering that breed standard also runs in their blood right? What do you think?
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@tigrashadow (1086)
• Australia
11 Jan 07
i think all dogs and cats that arent bought for breeding purposes should be neutered/spayed...not just pure breeds with genetic faults
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• United States
12 Jan 07
I agree with the above comments. However, if you get a pup that is bred correctly, there are usually no genetic defects. I have had mutts all my life, and recently got a pure breed pup. I would definitely go to the shelter next time I want a dog, or go to a breed rescue place if I knew the exact kind of dog that I wanted. Also, I believe that just because a pup has a brown nose doesn't mean that a puppy to that dog will have a brown nose, also. Just like a parent with blue eyes doesn't guarentee a child with blue eyes.
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• Australia
13 Jan 07
so would i concretebrunette....my ex and i had a mutt and he was one of the best dogs (well i know he was mine but he was cute) that ive known..i miss him heaps but one day ill get another mutt...maybe LOL as much as i love certain breeds...i refuse to pay so much just for a pet...its different if you want to show or breed them...
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@akosi63 (331)
• Philippines
11 Jan 07
Yep. I agree! Even breeds that are not below standard (champline) need to be neutered if there is no plan to breed them, there are lots of "accidents" that happen, if they are on heat, then the urge is there, really hard to stop them. Also, we have to preserve the breed and not to accidentally cross breed. But of course, I still love each and every breed, mongrels, mutts or pure breed. Breeders or even pet owners should be responsible enough to take care whatever they have.
• Canada
11 Jan 07
Animals should noy be spayed/neutered to prevent over-population, and not because of breed itsself. I like animals of all breeds, and mixed breeds. If it's to control the population, get them spayed/nutered, but not because of breed.
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• United States
11 Jan 07
i agree here too!.. spay/nueter them to prevent overpopulation.. not because of breed, i myself prefer to have mixed or "mutt" dogs... i like them to have qualities that are sometimes different from other animals... then again im not a fan of "dog shows" and such.. so it'd be hard to compare. but i think overpopulattion is a good enough reason.
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• United States
11 Jan 07
I so agree! If the dog isn't going to used for breeding, then get it fixed. I don't care if you have the most expensive dog in the world. If you have no plans to breed it then get it fixed. Of course, I'm one of those ones who adopts the "mutts" from the local shelter and have no issues doing that. I'd rather have my mutt lab then a pure bred animal, right now!
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@jade01 (803)
• Australia
11 Jan 07
I agree with you
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• United States
11 Jan 07
I think that Only people who know thier blood lines could really decide what faults are going to be a domanate trait or a receive one .You have to remember that even if the puppies of that dog or female don't have the trait it is in the blood line and well show up .I guess it would depend on if you care about producing pups in the future that have this trait and how bad it is to your over all line . I think that Pups sold to people wanting pets should be altered most breeders sell them with this in thier contract .I think people should honnor the wishes of the breeders in that reguard and thier wish to protect thier lines .I think it is best to breed dogs that are in the standard but at same time some great dogs were produced by dogs that had faults but they were breed by people that knew thier lines and breed dogs many years not just a person off the street . Breeding dogs is expencive and usauly another pet dog can be brought cheaper then one breed from a pet .
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@starcrazy (137)
• Singapore
11 Jan 07
I think they should be neutered or spayed if they, in any way, do not conform to the breed standards. There are too many dogs out there with genetic and health issues, so in order to reduce such numbers, breeders have to work hard and cooperate. But these dogs should not be looked down on. They still can be loving pets, just not breeding quality.
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@minsmins (162)
• Philippines
16 Jan 07
Breeders know the difference between show/breeding quality from a pet quality. I agree with you, it is extremely necessary if health is the issue.. ü
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• United States
11 Jan 07
I am a dog breeder, (not a puppy mill) and as a good recognized akc breeder I believe it is just irresponsible not to spay/neuter any dog that is below the breed standard. I only breed high end quality cavaliers whose health and bloodlines have been proven for at least five generations. If fo any reason one of those pups were to come out less than the breed standard, I would only release that pup after being fixed myself. Example - A Ruby Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, should never have white markings, that means that they were crossbred with a tri or a blenheim and every pup down their line will be tainted by it.) Just my thoughts.
• United States
11 Jan 07
I agree the reason to breed dogs is to try to better the breed not just to produce puppies .Although I will say this I want judge a person if they judge a dog that has a couple things wrong as long as it was not in the blood line and there is no health issues there .But really things that are a dq in the standard should not be breed the only exception to that in my breed chihuahuas I would agree to is slightly over the six limmit and I don't mean a 9 pound dog I mean up to 7 1/2 pounds . The limit in the standard is 6 but if the blood line stayed within the limit and this one was a exception then I would not rule it out just based on size . On the other hand I would not breed a dog in my breed with floppy ears that is also a DQ .
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
12 Jan 07
I agree with tadncydni that is very unwise to breed from dogs with health imperfections. I am into rough collies. They tend to suffer from CEA Collie Eye Anomaly, its very unwise to use such dogs for breeding.
@minsmins (162)
• Philippines
16 Jan 07
Yes. This is to prevent the prolifiration of animals with undesirable traits or any faults not conforming to breed standard. I am refering to the stand of a breeder, it is important as a breeder, and im refering to ethical & responsible ones to maintain a good line. They breed simply because they love the breed. ü
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@magikrose (5429)
• United States
12 Jan 07
To be honest I think ALL cats and dogs unless being used for breeding purposes should be fixed. I recently adopted 2 kittens from an animal shelter and when we got them they were only 9weeks old so we are responsible for getting it done. I am ok with that. Honestly I dont want kittens running arround that I have to find homes for. Considering they are house cats I have 1 female and 1 male. Getting your pest spayed and nutered is the responsible thing no matter what the breed, or default.
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• United States
12 Jan 07
I dont think that MUTT animals are bad at all. There are less problems with them than there are with your purebred animals anyday. They have more health problems and die sooner. I think noone should play god. Noone should fix them just cause they arent pure bred.
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@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
12 Jan 07
In this case, these animals are still "purebred", just the wrong color.
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@cwgiii (58)
• United States
11 Jan 07
Well tjis one I will be a bit biased.
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@cwgiii (58)
• United States
11 Jan 07
it is almost like asking should a child who has brown eyes instead of blue be born to parents that want a kid with blue eyes only.....Now think about that ?????
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@jade01 (803)
• Australia
11 Jan 07
If this is what everyone thinks then your out of your minds. I dont understand why you would want to do this
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• United States
11 Jan 07
Have you any idea of the terrible life the unwanted animals have???? Check any local pound, or humane society!
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• United States
11 Jan 07
If it is a dog being breed for profit and the breeder does not want breed inferior animals YES. For all pet owners YES dogs and cats should be spayed/neutered to stop the dreadful over population of poor unwanted animals.
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@rugaray (29)
• Philippines
19 Jan 07
Pet quality dog, the breeder is the one that makes the decision whether to let go of a pup as a pet, show or breeding quality. Pet quality, meaning having too many faults.. I dont think a dog like that should be bred regardless of the number of the champions in its pedigree. But one or two minor fault is ok. An obvious quality pup (well to some it will not be obvious because they dont know and never want to learn the standard because of the profit) should never be bred and let them be just pet. this is beacuse they have certain undesirable qualities that mnay be passed on to their offsprings that will not do their breed any good. Pet quality, just for pet; show quality dogs could be for show and for breeding and for pet. But there is a fine line between the different interpretation of pet quality. Spaying/neutering when needed is part of being a good breeder isnt it? who would want his/her breed to deteriorate, or for responsible pet owners to have an ugly baby (because theyu treat their pets as members of the family) Breed for the betterment of the breed...
@blueskies (1186)
• United States
11 Jan 07
I think that any dog purchased or adopted to be a pet should spayed or neutured. As for breed imperfections.....well, if we want to keep purebreed dogs, we must keep the breed pure. Can you imagine if everyone just bred their dogs with any other dog that "looked" like the same breed? The breed would get more and more diluted until we had a nation of mutts who would all basically look the same. Responsible breeders also are very careful to not breed dogs that may pass on health issues. I think that is very important to maintain healthy lines in future generations. While we have all had (I think) a loveable mutt as a friend and companion, if we wish to keep so many different breeds of dogs available, the breed standards must be upheld.
• Philippines
12 Jan 07
i agree. we breed to improve the breed so if we see some fault i guess we must not attempt to breed our pet anymore so to make sure we can neuter them
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@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
11 Jan 07
I'm not really the type of person where a pedigree matters. I could care less what color the animal is. But for health reasons, I'd like to see more people take their animals out of the lines. Spaying and neutering is fine with me even if it is a champion. A lot of breeders cull (read: kill) their "bad" ones off instead.
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• India
12 Jan 07
no idea
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11 Jan 07
Would you neuter your child, if people judged them as standard rather than elite? I think you know the answer!
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@Wanderlaugh (1622)
• Australia
12 Jan 07
For breed standards, maybe, but a lot of breeds are the result of mixing. The original breeders of the modern show breeds started with quite different dogs. I think if you breed, you go for character, intelligence, and health, as much, or more, as for standardization. The breed is characterised by its distinguishing points, and these are based on real considerations of the animal's health and nature. A further consideration is that heredity, at some point, will come up with something that isn't in the book. Normal exchange of chromosomes will produce a sub-breed, or some new character. Not wanting to get too Mendelian, I think the market is just now starting to wake up to the genetic possibilities.
• Philippines
11 Jan 07
Does the breed justify whether a dog should have offspring or not? I am a dog lover, and am very much surprised that many dog owners now have this impression that dogs are just there for their breed. Well, I don't! Your dog deserves to produce beautiful puppies, whether they are a breed of champion dogs, or not
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• United States
11 Jan 07
Sure. If we need to control the pet population, then we might as well spay or neuter the deficient ones first.
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