Religious Quotes as Responses

@Macthedj (630)
February 27, 2007 12:18am CST
It really irks me when I read a really good discussion and I see what comments have been left and I read passages and quotes from the bible. Cant these people come up with their own reasoning without quoting from a book where they 9/10 times they probably dont understand the quote or have taken the quote out of context. What do you think?
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@lecanis (16664)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
27 Feb 07
I think a lot of people are more comfortable just quoting the Bible than stating their own opinions. These types of people have been taught that the Bible is the absolute truth, and anything else they can say is simply less important. Or they might feel like they need some kind of "proof" to back up their view, and the Bible provides that for them. It frustrates me as well. I think even if someone does use a Biblical quote as part of their response, they should take their time and write a good response to go with it. It's lazy to just post a Bible quote and then not say much. They might think they're adding something to the discussion, but like another poster said, if we wanted to read the Bible we could all just go do that instead of being here. Another thing that frustrates me is the people that feel once they quote the Bible on something, that's all that needs to be said on the discussion. They don't understand why you keep discussing it when the Bible has "shown the truth on the matter". Bleh.
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@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
Very well said and quite a good way to look at it.
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@Ravenladyj (22937)
• United States
27 Feb 07
LOL you just nailed one of my HUGE petpeeves! I get really batty when ppl do that....I dont ask a question for the sake of a recap of what is in the bible I ask because I want ppls PERSONAL VIEWS...if I wanted to read the bible I'd dig it up out of the box its in and read the damn thing! LOL I think alot of times though ppl like htat CANT come up with their own responses for 1 of 2 reasons IMO #1 - they do have an opinion of their own but they are too afraid to share it because it may contradict their religion/bible etc (which is silly cause if they THINK IT/FEEL IT its no diffrent to writing/saying it..its still there ya know) or #2 - they really cant or dont think for themselves..they've become SO obsessive over the bible (IMO in order to hide something from themselves or avoid dealing with something) they really are unable to think on their own...which if you think about it really...thats a damn scarey thought
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@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
Thankyou raven, very well put
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• India
27 Feb 07
the problem is if people are completely sticking to the passages and quotes from the bible to respond to a discussion. and if the quote is relevant to the discussion and added in the end after making ones own comments i think its not bad.
@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
I seldom see these quotes having anything to do with the discussion. They jsut seem to appear whn they can find nothing else to say.
@Springlady (3986)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Maybe they use the Bible because it is the Word of God and everything in It is true. We (Christians) refer to it to help us live our lives the way Christ taught us to.
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• United States
27 Feb 07
That is true for you, but not everyone is a believer. All it manages to do is stir up angst for those who are not. It's Bible thumping. It's annoying. And believe me I feel the same way for anyone MUSLIMS or what have you when they do they same thing. I don't want to hear about any of that.
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• United States
27 Feb 07
Then you don't have to listen or read it. No one can force you to believe anything. It is your decision. I will always praise the my Lord and Savior!
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@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
I agree with you carly, not everyone beleives in the bible so it is not always appropriate to use this in discussions as your basis for an arguement.
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• United States
27 Feb 07
I'd probably find that a bit annoying as well, especially if the quote was taken out of context or doesn't really pertain to the discussion at hand. However, you have to also consider that some might quote from the bible mainly because they simply aren't to eloquently express their own feelings adequately, and a quote may in fact say exactly what they mean. Is it the fact that they are using quotes that bothers you, or is it that they are quoting the bible? After all, they could also be using quotes from song lyrics or great authors, world leaders, etc. While quotes can of course be misinterpreted in many ways, they are often quite accurate in conveying a particular meaning, or a meaning that may be of particular importance to the quoter. And remember "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"
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@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
It is the fact that it is the bible that is used. I have never seen the Koran being quoted on here, and why not? because they dont find the need to.
@JuliaPan (564)
• Canada
27 Feb 07
I am afraid I can't agree with you. Wise words may always serve as good answers and make us think. On the other hand, if the quotes are taken out of context, or if they are not so sppropriate for this or that discussion...
@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
I have no problem when the quotes completely mean something, and are matbe caring words. But i have said in an earlier reply som e people use these quotes to attack the morality of others. This I beleive to be wrong.
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• United States
27 Feb 07
This irks me too, in real life discussions. The reason why it happens is that they fear their own thoughts and reasoning. No, really! If I attempt to use my own reasoning, as good as it may be, now that I am not totally into the religion thing, I get quoted a quote from the Bible that makes it seem bad to use my own processes of thought. No wonder so many people get scammed when it comes to religion, because they are not allowed to use their powers of thought, deduction, and skepticism. It happened to me two days ago in email... someone was reminding me that my powers of thought, deduction, and reason basically had to be mistrusted.
@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
well said, at least you can see what people are trying to do. i hope you continue to speak your own mind.
@mobyfriend (1019)
• Netherlands
27 Feb 07
That is exactly what bothers me. That people take the text out of context. It's like being a ventriloquist. Instead of speaking their own mind they are letting the bible speak for them.
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@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
Thanks, I have no problem with people using it as a reference. But they have to have their own mind also.
@manong05 (5029)
• Philippines
27 Feb 07
If the quotation was relevant to the issue in the discussion and was properly explained then I guess I won't have any problem with that. But when the Bible was quoted out of context like in many postings that I've read, then that really is annoying especially when the discussion posted has nothing to do with the Bible. Some people are just so quick in quoting the Bible without really understanding what the verses really mean.
@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
I completely agree with you, thank you
• United States
27 Feb 07
The only time that I use a quote from the Bible or any type of book is when it is directly linked to to discussion. I have also seen alot of discussions where it had nothing to do with religion where people try to input their beliefs and that urks mee to no end. But that is the way they are in life as well since they have no thoughts of their own and only go with what another tell them or they read in the Bible. My brother-in-law is like that always trying to put his religion into everything and I think that it totally wrong as that will and does actually turn people off to Christianity and religion in general. Thank you for the great discussion and have a great day!!
@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
You have been able to say more easily what I was trying to say. Thankyou.
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• United States
27 Feb 07
You are very welcome as I only speak what I feel and I am glad that I was able to condense your thoughts for you into a neat little package! Smile and enjoy life my friend for it is too short to let others ruin it for you!!
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@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
I will certainly be taking your good advice.
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• United States
27 Feb 07
It is no different than students writing a report and using quotes from sources. Students give a reference and so do these people. You seem to just have a problem with where the quote is coming from. Apparently you are one that doesn't believe in the Bible so quoting from it is invalid in your eyes as you don't take it as a reliable source. Now what I don't like is when people have nothing to say so they just throw in a scripture to up their count.
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@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
If you had read what I had originally said, it was the main fact that most of the quotes used are taken out of context and have no meaning in the discussion and you are right I do not beleive in an incomplete book. All that is in the bible is what the vatican has wanted you to see and wanted they wanted you to beleive.
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• United States
27 Feb 07
Yes but YOU may view it as out of context but the writer doesn't. When it comes to scriptures of any type that applies - it is open to interpretation. Now if you read all of what I said you will see that I too don't like when irrelevant scripture is used. Oh and sorry you are wrong about the bible - KINDA. There are two Christian bibles (no I don't mean translations causes there are many of those). There is the regular bible and the Catholic bible. The Catholic bible has been rewritten by the Vatican. That's what I mean about wrong - you are wrong about The Bible being what the vatican wants as it is only the Catholic bible that applies to. Take care and have a good one!
• Singapore
27 Feb 07
Since you mentioned particularly the bible, I have to chip in to say that among the religions of the world, Christianity is the one with a larger number of outspoken people. We call them "evangelists" and they like to "preach the faith" where possible. So since they get a good legitimate chance at the discussion, why not? But I would say... take it easy. Everyone has a right to be heard so if you don't like what you read, just move on. ;-)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Well said.
@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
I have no problem with people "preaching the faith" But there are arenas for them to do this. There is people of all faiths on here. I have never agreed of ramming my faith down the throat of a Hindu or Muslim every chance I get. And I certainly dont attack other peoples insecurities with my religious beliefs, to me that would defeat the purpose.
@nowment (1758)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I agree that so often the bible quotes are taken out of context, or not fitting to what people are arguing, I do not claim to be a bible scholar nor do I claim to have a great understanding of the bible, but I will use quotes as I perceieve them. Much of life on all levels is based on personal or individual perceptions, perspectives and interpretations of the information we are given. So you mind people quoting the bible because it means something different to them than it does you and for you it is a misquote. But they may feel the same about you. Yet when the discussions are about spirituality and religion it is natural that people will quote from their Bible, or Koran, or Talmud or what ever religious document they hold sacred.
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• Netherlands
27 Feb 07
Sure i agree that in a discussion people tend to quote from their sacred scripts. The problem is that some of them can be quiet dogmatic in what they quote and they attack other people with the quote. Therefore I'm saying it's almost impossible to quote unless their is a proper ground for it. But basically that goes for anything not only religious discussions. On what do you base arguments?
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@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
I have seen alot of comments where people have attacked an individual using these quotes, this is completely unjustified, Good responses. Both relevant.
@nosmas (3)
28 Feb 07
Unfortunately this is what religion does to a lot of people, It takes away their individuality and their ability to reason think for themselves. They tend to see biblical meanings in everyday things and take the bible too serious. Even though l'm an aethiest, l think they are just guidle books to help people, not an instruction book. After all how many people would follow a set of instructions to the letter. Every body does things slightly different.....
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@Macthedj (630)
28 Feb 07
Thats a good way to look at it I guess.
• United States
27 Feb 07
Why would you want someone's own personal reasoning- when you can have the reasoning of God's own words - the bible? If you're interested in religious matters- then the best answers will come from the bible! Now if you're interested in people's own reasoning and not the bible's, then it's your choice, but if that's the case, I wouldn't really bother asking being that your own reasoning is just as good as any others and vise-versa.
@Macthedj (630)
27 Feb 07
Being interested in religion certainly does not mean the best answers will come from the bible. that is obviously something you beleive in which I have no problem with.
• United States
28 Feb 07
sory it bothers you but as a christian the scriptures give me insite into most things in life!
@yorb24 (2181)
• United States
28 Feb 07
Yes I agree. They figure their quote justifys the response but I feel in a way you become robotic.
@Stiletto (4584)
27 Feb 07
I agree it's annoying and it's often only too clear that they have no idea what it actually means. They just repeat it parrot fashion. Having an original thought would not only be a novelty but it would probably terrify most of these people!
• Portugal
27 Feb 07
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