Can you prove God?

Canada
March 7, 2007 7:52pm CST
Well how about it, is there a God and can we prove it using a rational, philosophic search for the Truth? Or is he a belief, a metaphysical idea that cannot be proved or disproved? And Christians, Mormons, Muslims, etc. You cannot use your particular religious book to prove that he exists. Just because the Bible says that he exists doesn't make it so. And Atheists, just because Nietzsche used his puppet Zarathustra to say that God is Dead doesn't make it true or that we understand what he's saying. Keep your minds open.
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• Philippines
8 Mar 07
I think I can. 1. See the distance of the sun from the eart5h? Its the perfect distance. Not too close, not too far. 2. Have you observed nature? Its balnced. Well-balanced. 3. Check your own self. Your eyes is perfect where they are. Thank heavens that its not under you. 4.The early people researched if the earth was round or square but the answer was already printed in the bible. 5. The early people researched if the world is being carried by an animal but the bible has the answers already. 6. And check your conscience. We feel the whisper of both the good and the bad. 7. All these perfectness are not accident. There's no such thing as perfect accident. Somebody must have made them. God made them.
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• United States
19 Mar 07
hi! as center of the universe.. what it says is, "the circuit of the sun" everyday.. If you think about it, it really is not so much a claim that the earth is the center.. but that man sees the circuit of the sun each day.. It also says "the earth hangs on nothing" - At the time these were written, most others believed the world was flat and suspended on the back of a turtle, elephant or Atlas.. Of course man has miunderstood and misread the bible such as centuries later in the world flat/round deathly debates.. Quoted to me once, was that the bible believed the world was flat, because of a verse "from the four corners of the world" - but it's easy to see this is the four directions.. Not a box.. The pattern of weather is also described real early on in the bible, early in time.. [I really do need to look that up, as to location and wording!] Anyway I thought you'd rather know the other side to those 'observations' than not know them.. :))
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@nicolec (2673)
• United States
19 Mar 07
I don't think we can prove god and it's not meant to be proven. I think that's the point. It's a belief system. We are to 'believe' in god and that is what makes us good in his eyes (strictly from religious point of view here). It's not meant to be proven. It would be like me asking if you believed in unicorns, knowing there is NO evidence that they exist or ever existed. You might say yes or you might so no regardless of any consequences. Now imagine I held up a fossile of a unicorn, that might change your answer or now you might be a skeptic. But I guarentee you would completely change your mind if I pulled out a unicorn alive and healthy. See how the belief would change? So god is not meant to be proven. Am I rambling yet? I think this is why the christians needed Jesus to be the son of god. they needed something tangible. A man living and breathing. (please, I'm not bashing christians, just an observation)
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• United States
19 Mar 07
I think science is a good thing, and more of us should be interested in it.
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• Canada
19 Mar 07
Why can't we prove God though? You would think that a being that powerful would make his mark known in the universe. A lot of smart people have given pretty convincing arguments about the existence of God, others have given pretty convincing arguments about the non-existence of God. I have found that there are four responses to the God/Bible Question: 1) There is a God. The Bible is literal truth and since the Bible says that God exists, you must believe in God. 2) There is no God. Nothing in the Bible ever happened, we have historical evidence for this. Since the Bible is not literally true, it is false. You cannot believe in God. 3) There is a God. The Bible is not meant to be taken literally. Since there is no one Truth, what you take from the Bible is totally up to you. 4) There might be a God. The Bible is not literally true, but is meant to be read allegorically. Nor is it true that there is no one Truth, or that you should take what you want from the Bible, a closer reading of the Bible may reveal a permanent universal Truth. If there is a God, we can prove that independent of the Bible. I like to think I'm in camp four... wait, did I break my own rules about not bringing up the Bible... damn.
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@nicolec (2673)
• United States
19 Mar 07
Perhaps he did leave his mark. But since we don't know what we are looking for, maybe we missed it. Or perhaps we mistook it for something else and he's up there yelling down at us 'you stupid humans'. I don't really believe that. god in a sense is a theory. Something that really can't be proven but you belive it anyways.
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• India
24 Mar 07
Madovid, we cannot prove god to any one with all the potential we have .We can only experience him. Whatever the religion whatever the sacred books, we cannot contain the mighty God in a few pages.The miracle of this very creation , The miracle of your very own existance proves the existance of the most divine God.
18 Mar 07
The answer is that the existence or non-existence of any deity can not be proven. Belief in god or the absence of god is about faith, and faith does not require proof or even substantial evidence to exist and prosper. Atheists and theists come in two major forms, explicit(broad) and agnostic. Explicit Atheism = Belief that "There is no god" is a fact beyond refutation Explicit Theism = Belief that "There is a god" is a fact beyond refutation Agnostic Atheism = Belief that "There is no god" while acknowledging you may be wrong Agnostic Theism = Belief that "There is a god" while acknowledging you may be wrong If you are an explicit practitioner in either camp, you are lying to yourself. You have accepted belief as fact without proof. An argument can not be made for this that holds up to logical scrutiny void of faith-based bias. Agnostics in both camps are the majority in both groups. They acknowledge that while they believe this way or that, there is the possibility they might be wrong. This opens the door for tolerance of other views. It also leads to rational and logical thought. Agnostic theism? You've got it. I discuss this topic in more detail in an article I wrote here: http://www.helium.com/tm/186303 Draven the Respectful Atheist http://dravenwriter.blogspot.com
• United States
26 Mar 07
To be or not to be....there is no hard core evidence to confirm or deny the existence of God. Belief or non belief is a function of everything within you yourself...faith and the courage of your convictions are the only guideline you have. Obviously there has to be a reason why these different reigions are frequently referred to as faiths. Christian faith, Mormon faith, Muslim faith....that should tell you something.