Have we gone to far??
By The_Eagle_1
@The_Eagle_1 (1121)
Australia
March 8, 2007 5:12am CST
The ideals of "Human Rights" have much credibility. The abuse people had to endure in the past has truely been horrific. But when we afford a murderer, rapist, child molester these rights after they have been found guilty of their perpetration beyond reasonable doubt, and they keep manipulating those rights while being institutionalised, all the time the victims (if they are still alive) and their families rights are where?? I realise that no amount of retribution can make up for the victims and families losses. Why do we give the perpetraters these benefits??
To me it is as blatant as the "Bali Bombers" treatment afforded to them by their prison system!! Virtually pampered! Have we gone to far??
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@krayzee (1160)
• Romania
8 Mar 07
I totally agree with you that thing have gone too far.
I think when a man decides to kill another (or rape or torture ar anything similar) he denies his humanity so to say. I think that his rights should be retired then and there because did he care about the other's rights? The right to life and/or to health? He didn't. So why would anyone care about his rights is beyond my comprehension.
Not to mention the fact that jails should be, you know, punitive measures. The condemned should face a punishment so why are we trying to make everything easier for them that is also beyond my comprehension. :(
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@The_Eagle_1 (1121)
• Australia
9 Mar 07
krayzee, I condone your thoughts and add that these perpetrators fall back 98% of the time blaming their environmental upbringing, but the cause is irrelavent!
The damage has been done and I only wonder if in most cases the "dogooders" were to experience the trauma they if they wouldn't take a different view!
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@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
8 Mar 07
Human rights are to be respected, but this goes for the victims and their families as much as for the perpetrators. Those who commit atrocious, heinous crimes simply revoke those rights for themselves. How can we still consider these people human when they act like no other animal would?
In most cases, there are no reasons left to treat humanely brutal murderers, violent rapists, child abusers, and the like.
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@The_Eagle_1 (1121)
• Australia
9 Mar 07
Unfortunately Tom we do, and they get a lot more consideration than the victims ever did or their families.
I am taking about the very same perpetrators! Some may argue or put forward that if we didn't make these allowances we would be no better! All I can say is blah!
@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
18 Mar 07
For years I've said just that...we've gone too far. So little thought and consideration is given to the victims and/or their families, and way too many rights and privileges go to the perpetrator. It's just so wrong. In so many cases, they ARE pampered and catered to. Then they get released for "good behavior". Wasn't it their "bad behavior" that got them in there in the first place? I'm in favor of "Human Rights", but some of these people are simply not "human" and proved it by the crimes they committed.
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@The_Eagle_1 (1121)
• Australia
19 Mar 07
The pampered syndrome is so sickening in some instances, as I mentioned about the Bali bombers virtually being able to buy their way into luxury and entertainment after being responsible for so much carnage!! Our legal systems are really good in comparrison, but when you compare being hit with a baseball bat and being shot...the baseball bat suddenly looks alot better! Shame neither of them are really palatable! Like our system, I concede that there are circumstances... but these perpetrators create a set of circumstances for the victims that the victims had little or no control to stop!
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@ASoldiersAngel02 (633)
• United States
8 Apr 07
I totally agree with you and believe you are 100% correct however, reality rarely matters to people, only their perception of reality or what they think reality should be and therefor by giving these criminals rights and such things the government believes its making up for all the horrible things they did and maybe if we show compassion then it will sway these criminals away for their bad ways. i think its a rediculous idea but for some people they think it makes sense
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@The_Eagle_1 (1121)
• Australia
8 Apr 07
"The do gooder effect", yes, what you say does happen, and saddly the Government (which by the way is really the voice of the people it represents) would be better placed giving the victims as much consideration! The perpetrators only learn how to manipulate the system for their advantage to a higher degree, and we (tax payers) pay for it! Talk about double whammies!!
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@MrCoolantSpray (1005)
• United States
25 Mar 07
When you decide to commit a crime, you forfeit the better things in life. Personally, I'm a proponent of corporal punishment for criminals. Flog them, hang them, castrate them, do what it takes. When you behave like an animal, you deserve to be treated like one.
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@The_Eagle_1 (1121)
• Australia
25 Mar 07
Many people feel the same way and would have the same done to these perpetrators, if proven beyond a doubt that guilt were their's but are over-ruled by hypocracy and legal eagles, excuse the pun, who get a very handsome reward for finding loop holes in our legal systems which enable guilty and responsible perpetrators to walk free with little or no consequence!
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