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myLot reputation of 93/100. earth2jacq (749)   ranked 375 out of 26,366 in life1 year ago

If you take something from someone without the knowledge/consent of the owner but you have the intention of returning it before the owner knew it was missing, is this considered stealing or borrowing?

 
 
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1. afoolproofplan (27)   ranked 8,745 out of 26,366 in life   1 year ago

I guess it all depends on how well you know the person. I mean if you know they wouldn't want you to it's iffy. But if you're sure they'll be alright with it... Will this person inform the owner?


myLot reputation of 93/100. earth2jacq (749)   ranked 375 out of 26,366 in life  1 year ago

I think he wouldn't because he took that thing without the consent of the owner and he intends to return it without the knowledge of the owner as well. thanks for posting:)

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. webeishere (9520)   ranked 85 out of 26,366 in life   1 year ago

In the yes of a court if there wasn't any discussion about borrowing said item it would be considered theft if reported as such. Bummer
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myLot reputation of 93/100. earth2jacq (749)   ranked 375 out of 26,366 in life  1 year ago

Yeah I think you have a point. thanks for posting.

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. trinihd (637)   ranked 3,329 out of 26,366 in life   1 year ago

I'd say it's stealing even if you had the intent to return it because you still didn't ask permission...so for me the distinction between stealing and borrowing is the knowledge/consent of the owner. If I were to draw a scale with stealing at one end and borrowing at the other...the act you describe may fall somewhere near the stealing end if not at the end! Think of it this way, if a person takes something from someone else without consent, then dies before they get a chance to return it, what will the people who find out it was taken have to say? They will probably think it was stolen....unless they know the person personally to know whether they would be likely to steal.


myLot reputation of 93/100. earth2jacq (749)   ranked 375 out of 26,366 in life  1 year ago

Yeah that is a valid point.....thanks for posting.

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4. myLot reputation of 89/100. rainqueen21 (313)   ranked 5,098 out of 26,366 in life   1 year ago

ok technically it is stealing because the person doesn't know that you took it, but at the same time it is borrowing becaue you have the intentions of returning it...lol this is a good one

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myLot reputation of 93/100. earth2jacq (749)   ranked 375 out of 26,366 in life  1 year ago

Yeah it is quite difficult to determine whether it is stealing or borrowing...confusing:)
thanks for posting

 
5. myLot reputation of 82/100. mamounz (192)   ranked 10,538 out of 26,366 in life   1 year ago

i think this is stealing. wither you intend to get or not it is the same you toke it without telling his owner.


myLot reputation of 93/100. earth2jacq (749)   ranked 375 out of 26,366 in life  1 year ago

But you also intend to return it:)
thanks for posting

 
6. myLot reputation of 97/100. wifeofharvey (588)   ranked 1,885 out of 26,366 in life   1 year ago

It absolutely is stealing, I have no doubt about it at all. If you thought that the owner would lend it to you, you would have no problem asking. If you thought they would not lend it to you, then you are sneaking and taking something which is beyond a doubt stealing.
I would make an exception if it was an emergency and something like you needed to drive my car to take someone to the hospital, or police station, and I wasn't available to give permission. Anything else is theft.


myLot reputation of 93/100. earth2jacq (749)   ranked 375 out of 26,366 in life  1 year ago

Thank you for posting:)

 
7. myLot reputation of 63/100. Lshauna1 (131)   ranked 6,062 out of 26,366 in life   1 year ago

Yes that is stealing. I don't believe you asked that question! If you was not stealing the item then you would've asked the person for permission to use or borrow the item. In the court system that is considered STEALING. that is just the same as going to the store and putting on a pair of pants or shirt and walking out the store without paying for it. Then the next day (returning the item)taking it back to return. THAT IS STEALING. No way around it just theft.


myLot reputation of 93/100. earth2jacq (749)   ranked 375 out of 26,366 in life  1 year ago

This is a hypothetical question. I did not say I am doing it. This was inspired by one of Spongebob Squarepants' (Nickelodeon channel) episode where Spongebob and Patrick took a balloon from a vendor with the intention of returning it...unfortunately the ballon burst so they were unable to return it and then they became fugitives wanted by law. Thanks for the post.


myLot reputation of 63/100. Lshauna1 (131)   ranked 6,062 out of 26,366 in life  1 year ago

I did not think it was you doing it? Spongeboob do be into some really strange things.

 
8. myLot reputation of 81/100. chase07 (1942)   ranked 3,723 out of 26,366 in life   1 year ago

Stealing is getting things without permission and without the intention of returning it. Barrowing, when the person knows and gave you the permission. with your question that depends on your relationship with the person who owns the thing...

 
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