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myLot reputation of 97/100. raydene (5312)   ranked 42 out of 3,134 in news3 years ago

What do you think about this story.
73 year old man's house starts on fire.He didn't realize the upstairs was on fire because the house is large.He hears the sirens,goes to the door to look out and smells the smoke and realizes that smoke is beginning to come down the stairs.
He had a huge bulldozer parked near his house.The police yelled to leave the house.He ran over to move the dozer.The cops and a fireman dragged him off the dozer and beat the heIl out of him.This is a true story because I know the old man it happened to.One of the police officers trial is starting this week.
The officer said it is against the law to try to save anything after you are told to vacate the area.
Any thoughts?

 
 
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mummymo (11642) response was accepted on 3/7/2008.
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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. kebpete (6858)   ranked 417 out of 3,134 in news   3 years ago

Oh my god that is awful what is wrong with people this day and time why the hell did they not find out what was going on before they did that oh that makes me so mad.


myLot reputation of 97/100. raydene (5312)   ranked 42 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

I find that alot of the police officers over react.The poor old man didn't want to loose that expensive machine.You really can't blame him.Then my hubby was called for jury duty but because he knows the officers and the man he was dismissed.

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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. mummymo (11642)   ranked 200 out of 3,134 in news   3 years ago

Yeah that those officers were really out of order! It may be against the law to save things after you have been told to vacate the premises but surely the bulldozer wasn't in the house and could have made the situation with the fire! On the other hand I don't know what it is like in your area but we hear so much about the emergency services being attacked these days for no reason and with different weapons and vehicles that they could have thought they were in danger? I know it doesn't really sound plausible - just like the officers excuse just didn't wash! Miss you Mom - been thinking of you! xxxxx


myLot reputation of 97/100. raydene (5312)   ranked 42 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

Well these people all know each other.Everybody knows this hard working older man.We will know after the trials who gets charged.The DA seems to think that the officers and fireman used excessive force.They continued to beat him after he was handcuffed in front of the mans neighbors so there were lots of witnesses.
Miss ya too Doll
oxxoxo
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myLot reputation of 95/100. mummymo (11642)   ranked 200 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

That is just wrong Mom - so, so wrong! They should lose their jobs at the very least! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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3. myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (17896)   ranked 358 out of 3,134 in news   3 years ago

Even if it was and it is not where I live, that is no reason to be beaten up, that police officer should go to jail.


myLot reputation of 97/100. raydene (5312)   ranked 42 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

It was actually 2 officers and 1 fireman against 1 old man.Poor old guy had black eyes and bruises all over.We hear this too much.There are alot of good police officers and then there are the ones that are cops to be big shots not to be servants of the people!

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4. myLot reputation of 84/100. wildflower0921 (128)   ranked 1,279 out of 3,134 in news   3 years ago

Sometimes we must empathize first before imposing the law. The officer may be right if it's just about the law. However, there's also a human right that he must also considered before doing an act. What he did was wrong because he shouldn't threat the man like that. Sometimes we forget to understand our act before doing it. God created us equally, so we must try to respect each and every human right.


myLot reputation of 97/100. raydene (5312)   ranked 42 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

The trail is for one officer but then the other officer will be tried then the fireman.There were three men beating one old man!

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5. myLot reputation of 80/100. Rozie37 (7158)   ranked 18 out of 3,134 in news   3 years ago

You have got to be kidding me!!! What was the point of them pulling him away from the bulldozer, if they were going to beat the crap out of him? How is it against the law to try to save your property? And why would they hit a seventy-three year old in the first place. They could have killed that man.


myLot reputation of 97/100. raydene (5312)   ranked 42 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

Thank God this old guy is a tough old bird but he was injured.Apparently it is against the law to enter an area that has been deemed unsafe.We loose more and more right daily.What is happening here.

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. whyaskq (5099)   ranked 629 out of 3,134 in news   3 years ago

I thought the fireman should be the ones trying to get the old man out instead of just asking the old man out! It is really inhumane to beat the old man but perhaps the firemen are really overly overwhelmed and they forgot that he was an old man. I do not approve of the old man trying to save his bulldozer from the fire. It is simply beyond reason, in my opinion.


myLot reputation of 97/100. raydene (5312)   ranked 42 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

I think having it there could make the fire worst.Bear in mind the old man was not the one that call the FD.He came out of the house and ran to the dozer.They grabbed him and beat him.


myLot reputation of 99/100. whyaskq (5099)   ranked 629 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

Since the dozer poses a danger, then the firemen ought to be shot for focusing on the wrong priority.

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. lightningMD (5634)   ranked 476 out of 3,134 in news   3 years ago

Granted maybe he shouldnt have tried to move the bull dozer but I think the police and fire fighters could have stopped him without beating him. He was 74 for goodness sake. I sure didnt know it was a law not to try and save things and I'm sure he didnt either. Hopefully the officers will be held accountable for their actions.


myLot reputation of 97/100. raydene (5312)   ranked 42 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

Right now the officers are on a paid leave.So we are paying their salary while they do nothing.I don't know but I think something id wrong with the whole way our justice system works.

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8. myLot reputation of 90/100. spasticseagull (1588)   ranked 454 out of 3,134 in news   3 years ago

To restrain the man in the name of his own safety may have been appropriate and part of their job, To beat him is outragous, I hope they get a fair and just trial and are dealt with accordingly.And the home owner get awarded compensation that will not only replace all his losses but have plenty left to spare.


myLot reputation of 97/100. raydene (5312)   ranked 42 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

I agree with you completely.I do hope that he gets something for his trouble.There are alot of people that are pretty hot about this.This could happen to you if you were trying to save your child or pet.


myLot reputation of 90/100. spasticseagull (1588)   ranked 454 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

Maybe not a child, but a pet or personal possesion yes, If it were a fire at my house and my children were safe along with my pets I may be inclined to beat up the firemen and cops before they safed the house, I am well overinsured on agreed value lol.

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9. myLot reputation of 98/100. charms88 (4698)   ranked 362 out of 3,134 in news   3 years ago

Just because the old man tried to move the dozer doesn't mean he was not listening to the police officer. Poor old man. The police officers and the firemen are the one who deserve to be beaten to pulp.

Once my neighbor's house was on fire too. I did several trips back to my house to get all our things. If the police officers and firemen saw what I'm doing, does it mean they will beat me too. No way! I will slap them a 10 years imprisonment or better yet demand suspension of their license.


myLot reputation of 97/100. raydene (5312)   ranked 42 out of 3,134 in news  3 years ago

Well it's not over yet.I will let you know what happens when they have all gone to court and the verdits are in.I sure hope that they all are convicted.These things happen too frequently.

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10. myLot reputation of 90/100. flowerchilde (6827)   ranked 353 out of 3,134 in news   3 years ago

..well, they certainly didn't need to be beating him.. I don't care how fast the adrenaline is pumping.. Humans!

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