Any Kabblist Here? I Say Led Zepelin was Wrong
By SEOGUY
@SEOGUY (906)
United States
July 24, 2007 7:55pm CST
In Stairway to heaven there is a line that says "yes there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run there's still time to change the road your on.
It is no secret that Jimmy Page and robert Plant were kabbalist, the branch of kabbalist that follow a magikal teaching. But there or three paths to kabbalah, The path of mercy, the path of severity, and the middle path that brings harminy to the creation. What are your thoughts?
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@sid556 (30953)
• United States
25 Jul 07
this is just way too deep for me. Yes I have read up on the Kaballa and found it very interesting. I would not read too deeply into the religious meaning behind any of led zeps words. Love their music but i think you are reading too much into it...seriously.
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@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
25 Jul 07
Actualy I am not reading too much into this. Page and Plant were both students of the teachings of Alister Crowley, Who was a kabbalist in the worst sense, in Kabbalah there are two cames, the spritualist and the magikal. The tree of life is at the heart of both camps, and one of the hidden names of the tree is the "stairway to heaven". There are many songs that have kabbalah meanings to them. Led Zeplin is one group that used them, by far Ronnie James Dio has the most kabblistic songs. thanks for your responce, feelfree to add to your responce.
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@beckish (641)
• United States
25 Jul 07
Oh, I do love that song. I always interpreted the lyrics that even if a person is on the wrong path, making bad decisions and doing the wrong thing, there is still hope. They can change their pattern and go the right way. It is never too late. I am not sure how that correlates with the spiritual aspect, but it makes total sense to me that they included their spiritual beliefs in their lyrics.
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@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
25 Jul 07
You are correct in this as the overlaying meannig. In kabbalah we call these two paths, correction and pleasure, two of the lights that flow from the creator. Corection is painfull to make us change our path to a less severe. But is the path of the middle they have left out. to ballence ourselves, not to strict, and not too leinant. thanks for your input
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@morgandrake (2136)
• United States
25 Jul 07
There is also the winding path that bounces from pillar to pillar as it goes from one sephiroth to another. That style is the one that I am most familiar with thanks to my Golden Dawn studies. I am going ot have to look up the lyrics to that song; I am not that familiar with it.
@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
25 Jul 07
Yes this is the serpent or the lightning bolt, in mystical kabalah, the type that Plant an Page studied simular to Golden Dawn, they are called the magical path and the mystical path, Though they reconise the three pillars, they opperate the tree in reverse. From Malcut to Keter, making a later to climb on, or useing the wisdom of the serpent to create a "stairway" to heaven. Thus changing the tree of life to the tree of knowlege, and learning the secrets of the sephorts, they become "like Gods". In traditianl Kabbalah, the idea is to start at Ketter (the will of the creator) and desend thrugh the formation of the worlds (seforots) and become more like the creator. Plant and Page were students of a former G.D. Alister Crowley. Thanks for your input. please feel free to add more.
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@Savingtone (1)
• Honolulu, Hawaii
12 Jun 13
@SEOGUY according to my knowledge of extra-Judaic kabbalah, I would I would say that part is largely allegorical. I too have struggled to conceive of a more direct correspondence. Knowing JImmy Page's fascination with sound and mood, as exemplified by his movie work, we should definitely consider the moods and/or feelings evoked by the music...I think everyone would agree that there's a feeling of naivete in regards to "she"...perhaps this is just an alternative perspective ( rather Eve's) of the Heit Eitz Hada'as
