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Britney Spears: Do we really know how she lost her children?  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 95/100. artistmel2000 (371)   ranked 2,932 out of 32,950 in life 5 years ago

I've seen a lot of posts about Britney and her recent loss of her children to Kevin Federline. Love her or hate her, she is in a predicament of her own making. One post I saw today bothered me because there seems to be a lack of understanding about how child protective services really works. As a former Child Protective Services (CPS) Social Worker, I also believe a little education may be in order.

In the 1990's, President Clinton signed into law the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997. This federal law dictated how the states should handle their individual CPS cases. The federal law mandated that each child found to have been abused or to be at risk for abuse had 12 months to establish permanency and then provided what those permanency options could be. The law also mandated how abuse cases were to be investigated and how the cases should proceed. Because I worked in Florida, I will use Florida's laws as examples, however, individual states have their own statutes available online and can be accessed by anyone with internet access.

Florida's statute for children is Chapter 39 of the Florida Statutes. Chapter 39 reads that any abuse call shall be investigated within 2 - 24 hours dependent upon the level of risk at the time of the report. If the child is found to be at-risk or if abuse allegations show a resonable certainty that the child will continue to be at risk for abuse, abandonment or neglect if left in the home, the child is removed from the home and placed in a shelter. A shelter hearing is held within another 24 hours to determine if there is PROBABLE CAUSE to keep said child in shelter. The PROBABLE CAUSE is determined by a judge at that hearing. At this time, the judge will order visitation or no visitation based on the allegation so the case. An arraignment hearing is set at which time the parents or caregivers will enter a plea. The adjudication hearing is "THE TRIAL" of the case. It is heard by a judge. There are no jury hearings in these cases as these proceedings are civil hearings and not criminal proceedings. If the parents are found to be responsible for the abuse of their child(ren), the children are adjudicated dependent and the work begins of getting those children back into the home.

As for who takes custody of the children after removal of the home, the first person to be considered is the other parent if there is one available. Second to be considered are grandparents or other relatives. If none are available, then non-relatives are considered. If none of those are available then children are placed into shelters and foster homes.

I am not a judge, so I cannot determine if there was probable cause to remove the children from Britney Spears. However, if certain court orders were violated or her children were put a risk (what is known as threatened harm) then the judge was correct in removing the children. If Kevin Federline is proving to be the better parent, then isn't that what's in the best interest of the child? Remember, CPS is responsible for the child's safety and well-being, not what will keep the parents from breaking down on national television.

I would also like to comment that, like other celebrities, Britney has not been immune to being tried and convicted in the media. Sensationalist television plays on the emotions of its viewers, therefore leading to some of the posts I've seen today.

I have no opinion one way or the other as I do not know the facts of the case. But having a little extra knowledge of these types of cases, it may be easier to see that Britney is not being punished for losing her children, but is, in fact, being given an opportunity to make some better choices in her life; choice that I hope she will take advantage of and not stick her head in the ground and ignoring her own problems.

I also have no doubt that I will be flooded with posts from angry people who claim that I, myself, am actually the enemy of these poor parents and not someone who can provide help and assistance to put families back together. Removing children from their homes was the absolute WORST part of my job. When that happened, I would drive around for hours replaying the whole thing over and over in my head to see if I still came to the same conclusion that removal was the best option. I can honestly say that of all my cases, I don't think I would have done things any differently that I did at the time.

I certainly hope to hear what others have to say about this, and I look forward to reading your posts and responding to them.

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tags:  britney spears, children, parenting, alcohol, child protective services
 
1. myLot reputation of 99/100. AnythngArt (1901)   ranked 2,376 out of 32,950 in life   5 years ago

Yours is certainly a well-thought-out argument, with plenty of experience behind it. I have no particular axe to grind about whether Britney gets the kids or her ex-husband does. They just need care, so may the best parent get them. What baffles me is that many parents who make bad choices (like Britney) don't have any back-up systems in place, which is why their actions have such dire consequences. With Britney, she can surely pay for a nanny and other help if she can't handle all of her child-raising duties due to her professional schedule (or otherwise). I equate it to the DUIs of several stars recently. It makes no sense when you can afford a driver to cart you around to take such unnecessary risks. Not that anyone should drive drunk; the Hollywood types have even less excuse in my opinion.

I realize that it may look like I am letting Britney and other stars have the easy way out by paying someone else to act responsibly instead of them. However, I am just shocked that they have not considered the most obvious solutions in the first place.

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2. myLot reputation of 81/100. nana1944 (1246)   ranked 7,128 out of 32,950 in life   5 years ago

What a concise post! Thank you for the voice of experience. I know a lot of people do not understand how tough the job is. In a case I know of the children weren't in danger and the SRS workers did not want to take the children but had to because the county sherriff ordered them to. He was trying to get the father to react and in fact waited just as long as possible hoping the father would come in from work and he would have a reason to put him in jail. The father was on probation for a non-violent case and was getting the money paid off real fast since he had gotten a good job that paid terrific bonuses. Kiowa County does not like to let go. I think the workers from the SRS should have had the option to make the judgement call instead of a drunken fool like the sherriff of this county. But state laws in Kansas (I am told) give him the right to do that. My oldest grandson and I picked the mother up out of the street when she fell crying as they drove away. It broke my heart. And still does even though after a year and then some they got the children back. I have a poem on poetry.com about it. It is called a Mother's Cry. I am not sorry for the sherriff's loss in the tornado that ripped the town of Greensburg, Kansas apart May 6th of this year even though I amsorry for other peoples losses. Call me hard-hearted if you wish and God forgive me for the animosity I feel. He alone is who I have to answer for for that.

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3. myLot reputation of 85/100. oneandonemakesix (23975)   5 years ago

I understand where you are coming from, but I also KNOW what Britney Spears must be going through, emotionally as well.

As a parent that has battled the DEMONS of CPS, and DSS, and I have NOTHING NICE TO SAY about them as they are sneaky, under handed, conniving, controlling people that want THEIR WAY, or no way at all..And that's as nice as I can be!

Oh trust me I battled CPS in court for more than a year!!! I battled the right to make my own decisions, I battled the right to prove I was a fit parent, and that even though I had made some mistakes they had no right to control my 'treatment' or lack of treatment by psychologists and psychiatrists.

I KNOW what Britney is up against, and I know that she will, even if she makes better judgments, and turns her life around, she will forever be harrassed by CPS, AND DSS.

She can get her kids back, she can change her life around, but she has to want to do it! And if CPS would work with her and NOT AGAINST HER like the DO so many times.

Even after changes have been made, they still try to prove a parent 'unfit'.

Been there done that got the t-shirt, read the book, wrote the novel on it.

Mooch

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4. myLot reputation of 91/100. cremechese51 (1362)   5 years ago

Since these case records are sealed, none of us here even know the real details of this situation. It's all gossip really. I have a feeling though there is more to it than what the public is aware of, which is how it should be.

I think CPS has a very hard job. You're seeing people here demean them because of their own unfortunate experiences, but I think it must be difficult to be in the position of snatching kids from their parents. Your post is very informative.

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5. myLot reputation of 84/100. bluewaves (2167)   5 years ago

well i think you have explained it real well. i still believe in the judgment system. even though how sad to hear it that the parents will lose the custody of their child i think we should respect the decisios of the law. well i think they are only looking for the best of child.

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6. myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (19028)   ranked 1,910 out of 32,950 in life   5 years ago

"However, if certain court orders were violated or her children were put a risk (what is known as threatened harm) then the judge was correct in removing the children. If Kevin Federline is proving to be the better parent, then isn't that what's in the best interest of the child? Remember, CPS is responsible for the child's safety and well-being, not what will keep the parents from breaking down on national television"

From what I can tell she HAS NOT been a fit mother right from when she was driving with the baby on her lap to being an alcoholic/addict...As much a Federline drives me around the flipping bend (or use to when he was trying to be an artist) bottomline IMO is from whats been shown, he IS the better parent at the moment. The judge made the right choice as far as I'm concerned..

I think ppl have a horrible habit of putting celebs on this high horse and making up excuses for them which IMO is a joke more often than not...Just because she was once a successful artist DOES NOT make her an automatic good person, responsible adult or fit parent..Ppl need to realize that


myLot reputation of 89/100. AeroChickie (388)   ranked 6,681 out of 32,950 in life  5 years ago

I agree. I heard in the media that the judge had given both Britney and Kevin orders to comply with (such as take parenting clases and undergo regular drug tests). Britney didn't comply with any of the court orders, whereas Kevin did. Hence, Kevin was award temporary custody of the children. Now who knows if any of what the media has said is true though. The court transcripts were apparently sealed.

Britney's public reaction doesn't seem to show much concern though. She headed home to california and started partying (again, who knows if the media is reporting accurately, or twisting the story to make her look careless and emotionless).

Britney has never struck me as a responsible parent though. She doesn't seem too concerned with her children's safety, and maintains her lifestyle of alcohol and drugs. She doesn't appear fit to raise children. I think the judge made the right decision giving the kids to Kevin Federline.

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7. myLot reputation of 19/100. azimsay (544)   ranked 15,757 out of 32,950 in life   5 years ago

first take care for children .Why we penish children about our truble.When we seferring from any kind of bad time of our life do not angree with our children.

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