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A pet is NOT just for Christmas, please think carefully this festive season  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   ranked 33 out of 32,948 in life 5 years ago

I know this is probably one of those subjects that has been done over and over again but this morning I heard something that made my blood boil. We have a large pet shop in our local high street and it is always busy. It is a great shop, run by wonderful people who care pasionately about animals. It's a shame some of the customers are not so caring however.

While I was buying some cat treats for Moomin a family came into the shop, Mum, Dad and four kids. They went straight to the rear of the shop to look at some of the small pets there, mainly hamsters, rabbits, guinea pigs etc., but the shop also had a couple of puppies. The kids were screaming and shouting about the pups, demanding the puppies for Christmas. I overheard the Mum saying that they would get the pups for the kids as they would make "cute presents" while one of the owners of the pet shop was doing his best to dissuade the family from buying the dogs. The Dad then joined in the conversation, quite beligerantly demanding the pups were sold to them immediately while the kids were screaming and shouting.

I know the owners of the shop quite well and was chatting to the lady when she lowered her voice and said to me that she really didn't want to sell any animal to that family as they had no idea how to look after the kids never mind the animals and that she had had to refuse them before. Apparently they had had pets before and had them taken away by the animal welfare as they wouldn't care for their pets. I was horrified that this family, who obviously didnt care that much about the animals, were demanding that they take these puppies.

Finally the family left after the owner and his wife stood their ground and refused to sell the dogs, but it made me so angry to think that people feel they can take on animals without any thought for their welfare after the novelty has worn off. Yet this happens every single year, and hundreds of unwanted pets are dumped in the New Year.

So I am asking, my friends, do you think it's right to regard a pet as a present?

 

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oneandonemakesix (23975) response was accepted on 12/17/2007.
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tags:  pets, animal welfare, christmas gift, cruelty, eejits
 
1. myLot reputation of 96/100. lordwarwizard (10625)   ranked 372 out of 32,948 in life   5 years ago

I don't think there is anything wrong treating pets as presents BUT. Yes, there is a BUT.

Pets are not humans but they are living things as well. When you want to give someone a pet, you must first make sure that he has the time and energy and responsibility to look after it. You should always get the consent of the recipient before burdening him with a responsibility he may not be ready for.

As for the case of those kids you met, it would be ok if the parents have drilled in them the responsibility entailed for the puppies they are getting. Taking care of a pet is certainly not easy. The children will become responsible young adults if they can take care of their pets well and shower them with love, care and concern.


myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   ranked 33 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

I am all in favour of responsible pet ownership, what upsets me the most is the way many animals are regarded purely as a *cute gift*. This particular family seemed to have no regard for the future welfare of the animals, merely gratifying the demands of their kids. When my son was little we had a hamster that was his responsibility and he learnt that pets need to be cared for. I just wish more people would be prepared to accept that responsibilty Wizard, there would be far fewer abandoned animals in the New Year.


myLot reputation of 96/100. lordwarwizard (10625)   ranked 372 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

And that is why, though I love to get a dog or a lion, I didn't. Responsibility is a big thing and I wouldn't want to "ruin" the pet, so to speak.


myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   ranked 33 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

At least you are being a responsible and sensible person Wizard, :-)


myLot reputation of 96/100. lordwarwizard (10625)   ranked 372 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

I try, my friend. An irresponsible wizard might destroy the world with his spells.:P

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. TyNSethsMom (111)   ranked 11,197 out of 32,948 in life   5 years ago

Now I believe if you are willing to take care of the pet if the person you are giving the pet will not it is ok, but if you want to hand it off to someone else that doesnt want to take care of it then no way.

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3. myLot reputation of 91/100. giftsandbagscom (25485)   ranked 667 out of 32,948 in life   5 years ago

I have no problem giving or saying a pet is a present. Anything could be a present out of love. However this family was the exception to this rule. They were not thinking of the pet as part of the family. I have to cats and did not buy any of them. if I had a bigger place. I would buy my daughter her favorite dog. This also would be one of her Christmas,Birthday,or good grades present. I am hoping you can get over this situation. The family is clearly one not deserving of this wonderful term.


myLot reputation of 96/100. lordwarwizard (10625)   ranked 372 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

I have a feeling they are filthy rich. :P

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24673)   ranked 107 out of 32,948 in life   5 years ago

If I were to go out and get myself a pet for a present, that'd be one thing. When someone thinks pets make cute gifts and get them without consulting the giftee that's another. In still a 3rd class are those people whom animals have already been take from. I know in England they can bar a person who has neglected a horse from ever owning another - they should have that for all animals.


myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   ranked 33 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

I wouldn't mind buying an animal as a gift so long as the person receiving that animal was prepared to love and care for the animal, it is a sad fact that so many animals are abandoned after the Christmas holidays though


myLot reputation of 85/100. oneandonemakesix (23975)  5 years ago

but at this point they were by fact proven that they were not responsible, and I have to wonder if anyone has thought of sharing names with stores that sell animals who are potentially abusers of pets?

While I think this would be a good idea, esp. when it comes to adoption and sales, I'm sure someone would cry privacy invasion...

Whats the difference to stop someone from adopting a pet that had them taken away, or doing an investigation as far as animals being taken away, just as there is with adopting kids.

Mooch


myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24673)   ranked 107 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

Actually, Mooch, in Austin, several of the adoption groups have a "blacklist" of people they refuse to adopt to & they share that list.

Now, this isn't ones our group just turns down because they don't meet our tough standards, but people that have adopted more than one animal and "things" happen to them.

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5. myLot reputation of 92/100. kakuemmom (614)   ranked 2,732 out of 32,948 in life   5 years ago

Pets as presents can be OK but really it should not be a whim present. We gave my oldest when she was 12 a hamster for her b-day but before she got it she had been asking for so long for one. So we started with a goldfish if she took care of it properly we would consider a bigger pet. Her fish lived almost 2 years and the bowl was always clean the fish was fed and taken care of. So we then went to a fish tank which we still have and the tank is always cleaned so We felt that she had the responsibility to handle a hamster. We were right she got the Hamster for her b-day and has had a few since then she is 17 now. My point is pets can be presents but look into it first and make sure the person who is getting it be responsible and really want he pet first. As for the store I know the pet stores around here check you out before they will sell you a pet and I don't think the advertise pets for Xmas presents.


myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   ranked 33 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

Fortunately our pet store is fabulous and checks out everyone buying an animal. They certainly don't sell to anyone they feel is not likely to be a responsible owner.

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6. myLot reputation of 93/100. houndsgood (595)   ranked 5,574 out of 32,948 in life   5 years ago

Yes, pets are a very bad idea for a present. Even if the parents are dog/cat people and they are willing to take on the responsibility, the holidays are a very hectic time. A new pet can be forgotten about when they need you the most with lots of houseguests or the family gone all day to go to relative's houses or the general stress of the holiday. The best thing to do is if the family is truly ready, adopt a dog after the holidays. Shelters are full of "bad Christmas gifts" right after Christmas through the end of January plus people dumping animals because they lost their lease, etc. on the 31st. Cats included.

BTW, please encourage your friends to stop selling puppies and allow rescue groups in. Pet store puppies come from animal brokers and they get them from puppymills. It is a horrible life for the parents of the puppy. Google puppymill rescue or puppymills and you will see what I mean. Even a store that says they get from "good breeders". No reputable breeder would let their dog be sold to a faceless person they will never meet and even then without thorough interviews, vet checks, and more just like a rescue does for someone to adopt a dog.


myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   ranked 33 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

I know the owners of our pet store very well, and I understand that the two puppies they had at the back of the shop were from their family dog. I was so glad to see the couple refuse to sell the pups to that family, at least they are responsible enough to insist that the animals go to good owners. There are, however, a lot of unscrupulous people out there who only care about the money they can make without caring about the animals they condemn.

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7. myLot reputation of 85/100. oneandonemakesix (23975)   5 years ago

I have heard time and time again that pets are not ideal for Christmas presents, and the same at easter time,

While the novelty is there, a child often does not understand the responsibility that goes along with it.

I think that a pet should be choosen carefully and wisely, and that a 'gift' should be choosen carefully if they decided to get a pet. Choosing something that suits the family as well.

I'm glad to hear that the owners stood their ground and refused to sell them the pets.....

although I have to worry that they will go ot another store to look at and try to buy pets....

Mooch


myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   ranked 33 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if they do go elsewhere and find someone else to sell them animals. When I think of the number of abandoned puppies and kittens in the New Year it just makes me so angry I could ..... no, I must stay calm.

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8. myLot reputation of 96/100. TerryZ (11452)   ranked 272 out of 32,948 in life   5 years ago

I treat my 2 cats like are part of the family. And when I see people not caring about their pets it makes me so mad. I often think why did you get the pet in the first place? I cant stand people like that. I hope someday they will be treated the way they treated their pets. I think that would a good punishement for them. Some people are heartless and so very cold.


myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   ranked 33 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

Karma I think would serve them right.

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9. myLot reputation of 95/100. twoey68 (10563)   ranked 1,301 out of 32,948 in life   5 years ago

Thankfully, most every store has a Right to Refuse Service policy and I think it should be enforced with ppl like this. Congrats on the storeowner for standing up for those little pups...their better off at the store and a chance at a good home then in a bad home.

I would never get a pet for a child, gift or not, if they weren't responsible enough to care for it. I think they are fine as a gift as long as the child is responsible enough. My Dad gave me a cat one year for Christmas and she was well loved and cared for.

These ppl sound like they don't need any pets at all...in fact, I'm wondering if they need kids.

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myLot reputation of 99/100. recycledgoth (7430)   ranked 33 out of 32,948 in life  5 years ago

The couple who own the pet shop are lovely people, they are involved in a lot of animal rescue too. I have to applaud them for their stand, and hope that those people won't be able to get any more animals from anyone else

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10. myLot reputation of 80/100. missybal (3820)   ranked 2,898 out of 32,948 in life   5 years ago

I think a pet is a wonderful gift any time of the year as the same as a child would be however like all great gifts they should only be given to people who will really appreciate them. I commend those store owners. Most of the time people who run those pet shops or are breaders will only care about making the money and will sell to anyone and let animal protection deal with the problems. It's rare that the people selling these living breathing things actually think of them as more than something that is to make money on. I know that is how it is around here. Most of those places cut corners to lower their expenses to make more money and never mind the health and wellbeing of the animal. That's why I got my dog at the humane society. People should remember that a pet isn't like any other toy under the tree that a child can play with on Christmas day and then toss away. It's a gift for a life to treasure and take care of. But most people don't realize the work involved and that is why animals are quickly discarded after the new year. Sad but true.

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