Tiamet the African Grey  |
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| I have an African Grey Parrot that was raised in a garage. Thats how I ended up with her. A friend told me that she was being neglected so we went over to the house and told the people we would report them and I paid them $800 for her and her cage and took her home. She did not speak just squawked. Well she was talking in sentences in a few weeks and paragraphs in a few months. Now she won't shut up. But she is still scared of strangers and will not speak to them. So strangers think she cannot speak. I have an electric scooter that I use on bad days and Tiamet(the Babylonian goddess of the ocean. well we did live on a sailboat!)now asks to go outside so I am teaching her to ride on the basket. However, she is a clutz. She is scared of everything and falls into the basket at the slightest new noise. I tell her she does it on purpose just to get attention. Otherwise she wouldn't always land in the basket instead of on the ground. This is not a dumb bird. Deos anyone else have a clumsy Grey or any other kind of Parrot that still falls off their perch? Tiamet is 16. If she was in the wild well she just wouldn't be she'd be dead long ago. | | | | | |
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1. whywiki (3095)
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5 years ago
| | What a heartwarming story, I love birds and think they are the smartest creatures. I think that your bird is smart, you are right or it wouldn't be the basket she fell in. I hope that she comes around and starts to trust again. It is nice to hear of people giving animals a new lease on life. | | | | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | She is my best friend. The one thing about a Grey is that they are not a tape recorder. They actually think out what they are going to say. She argues with me like a teenager. In fact, she is just about through puberty and it has been just like it was with my oldest daughter except I could never put a cover over my eldest and say "go to sleep"! A Grey lives to be about 70 years old. | | | |
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2. houndsgood (595)
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5 years ago
| | I don't have a parrot, but as an animal rescuer, I loved your story about her. I am so glad that you found eachother. There is a guy who writes for one of the motorcycle magazines that travels with his parrot or macaw - I will have to find out which one. | | | | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | A macaw is a very large parrot. They have a huge beak and a very loud voice but they are very nice. Their tail feathers are a couple of feet long and they come in gold or blue or red. They are awesome but they are heavy to carry around! | | | |
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| 3. Mike227 (49)
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5 years ago
| | Hi Adoniah, I read a lot about the Sumerian history (His Story), but mostly the books of Zecharia Sitchin as they made most sense to me. He mentined this name for a planet once positioned between Mars and Jupiter, which got torn apart, one half became the shatered asterioid belt and the other half became earth. This could explain, why the landmass of earth was all concentrated on one side, which seems to be an impossible distribution of matter on a rotating body like earth. Matter should really be distributed "equally". And further, even if it was a natural occurence, it probably took some time to develope. I cannot say how long ago this happened, as time is a funny thing in itself. But what I would doubt, if I was a searching soul, what caused this "natural uneven distribution of matter" to break up? Could it be possible, that it was not "natural", that this "collision" actually happened the way the Sumerian described it? After all, how could they possibly know about the asterioid belt? (Without a "hubble", well there are a few possibilities... I would like to find out all the different possibilities people can dream of). I used to be surrounded by animals: Horse, ponies, deers, rabbits, hamsters, mice, a monkey, a parrot, budgies and all the "crawlers" like snakes, lizzards, salamander, whatever we could find. I remember me and my friends catching the shiny green "Eidechsen" (lizzards) in italy and they were fast... However, we took them from Italy to our home in Germany and put them into glass terrariums. I think my mother helped us to do so. To feed the lizzards, we caught flies, ripped one wing out and threw them into spider-webs at the stable, to wait for the spider to come out that we could catch them, as they were a "bigger portion" for the lizzard. I only now see a possible connection why we now have stinging flies, moscitos, poisonous spiders... It could be possible, that nature provided them with a natural "protection" against a "predator", as the "families" of any species might "feel" that "humans" interfered and are dangerous to them. We know that even plants develope defense-mechanisms against "natural enemies". Maybe we should start to consider us as "natural enemies" in some ways too. I just happened to make an interesting observation this morning. Yesterday I was watching a moscito flying about my head, back and forward. So, I tried something else instead of smshing it in mid-air. I let the mosi take its's drop, because it also could be possible that by doing so, the moscito gets enough blood that then could contain enough anti-bodies to strenghten the immun-system. Well then I had some cucumber, bread and tomatoes for tea and left the dishes at the sink. As I got up early in the morning, I saw a moscito on the cucumber and it looked just like it was "sucking". I quickly got my camera out and took some photos and a movie-clip. If I find someone one da to help me to set up a web-site, I will post all this on this website and will make it available to everyone. And allow everyonne to share their stuff for "free" and if we make enough money there, everyone will get their fair share of course! I think it might be worth researching these things, as we could possibly change our attitude towards these creepy-crawlers. Even my 5 year old daughter picks up spiders and carries them outside. I think we will have sooo many more nice things to talk about. Shalom | | | | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | I love all critters and I too am against killing. However,I am in favor of preventing a mosquito from biting. My great uncle Jack died of a virulent strain of Malaria in a matter of weeks during WWII. He dodged all the bullets and died of a mosquito bite. I have a cousin who's Mother worked for the Peace Corps and took her son down with her when he was a teenager and even though he was taking the pills he got malaria also. To this day out of the blue He will come down with the fevers and shakes and be down for a week or two at a time. I don't know where you live, but here in FL. we still have some of the kind of mosquitoes that carry malaria. You don't have to kill them; you just plant all kinds of plants in your yard that ward them off. It does work! Shoot we have every kind of bug you can think of. We have cockroach races on Sat. nights.lol Tiamet even says BUG! She won't catch one; she just watches things go by! | | | |
| Mike227 (49)
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5 years ago
| | Hi Adoniah, Thank you for replying to my response which was absolutely out of context to your question. I guess my visit to the hospital was necessary... However, your solution with the plant is very good. Here (in Australia) we have some repelling plants too and they work fine, if you have enough planted (not just 1 or 2). I grew up in Germany and the mosquitoes there just leave you with an itch. Here they can make you seriously ill too (but I never met anyone getting that ill here). So I guess I'm just lucky. To your Parrot, I think it must be great to have a bird like that. We once had a budgie who could say a few sentences... I'll see you around | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | What you wrote was interesting though and I did enjoy it. No apology needed when information is transfered. | | | |
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Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | What a cool story! You did right giving the bird to the one it Chose. Birds choose by taste and smell. Weird huh. You can be as nice and gentle and friendly and too bad. They are going to make the choice. Tiamet is in love with a friend of mine that lives in Germany. She says almost every day "Wolfgang went bye bye to Germany". Every once in awhile he will write a letter and he always puts a blank piece of paper in the envelope that he has carried around for awhile just for Tiamet. He makes sure that it smells and tastes like him. She will keep that in her cage and hold it and taste it for days until it finally falls apart. To her he is her mate I think. | | | |
CinderInMySoul (4337)
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5 years ago
| | ooh "wolfgang went bye bye" that must sound so sad! talk about a long distance relationship! thats sweet that he sends her a special piece of paper though! | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | It is not sad. She really has no concept of time. So she does not know how long it has been. Wolfgang does come to visit every once in awhile because he writes cruising books in German for Germans. So he cruises through and sometimes I cruise with him. In fact, we just finished a book together and I just got my copy a month ago. In German of course, but I have finally translated the parts that I contributed. | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | Best Response! I think your story was almost better than mine! Shalom | | | |
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5. alamode (1852)
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5 years ago
| | We were given a Conyer that was also kept in a garage for many years because when he screeched, it hurt the ears badly! I sat by him and talked to him for months, then got brave enough to put my hand in his cage... he bit me hard!! Then he flew out the door and I ducked... he landed on my shoulder and 'kissed' my cheek! Actually, he nibbled me, but at least it was nice! We had no other animals then so he was out of his cage more often than not. And usually on my shoulder. His name was Jocko-Jocko, Monster Birdie, and he loved to dance and sing with M.C. Hammer! | | | | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | He was probably never trained to go on someones hand. A lot of people stick train a bird with a spare perch. If you ever get another bird, you might try that first. Its easier on the skin! | | | |
alamode (1852)
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5 years ago
| | He was really lovely... people who knew where we got him couldn't believe what a little love could do. There had been talk of 'getting rid' of him, which was why we took him. No one had any idea how old he was... after we had him for 7 years, he acted listless for a couple days, then died quietly on my chest. He's in our side yard, with a nice big chunk of petrified wood for a headstone. He was a great 'guy'! | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | My kids and I have a special place where we bury all of our loved critters. It is on protected land by this huge and I mean huge old live oak tree. So far we have never been caught doing this. We have a "special burial cooler" just for this purpose because you can picnic out there in the boondocks. This way, since we lived on a boat we always had a safe place for our loves. | | | |
alamode (1852)
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5 years ago
| | We have a sweet little cockatiel out there, too... Lucky was found in similar circumstances to Wewt, the dove... looking an awful lot like a cat snack! Its funny how when we lose a birdie, within a few years we have another... we've never bought one! We keep the cage in good shape in between cuz we know we'll need it! | | | |
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6. maximax8 (17649)
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5 years ago
| | That is such a lovely heart warming story. Tiamet sounds like a gorgeous parrot. She sound like a very special bird. African Grey Parrots are very good at talking. My mum had an American friend when I was a teenager. She had an African Grey parrot but she kept making loud noises. So the lady took the bird back to the pet shop. She then go a Rainbow Lorikeet. But that bird kept dropping food on her white carpet. So she also took that bird back. Then she got a White Fronted Amazon and all seemed well with him so she kept that bird. But then she moved home to America so she gave my mum the parrot and along with four rabbits. That was in 1987. Bingo came to live with me in 2005. He is such a lovely bird. He can talk a little and say words like hello. He is very happy and adores company from humans. He was hand feed when he was a baby bird. Therefore he doesn't know he is a bird although he can fly. He doesn't understand that he is a bird. He hated having a budgie friend. He gets quite vocal around early evening. I love him very much indeed. He enjoy listening to music and hearing people cheering in a pop concert that has been recorded. He had a varied diet of sunflower seeds, monkey huts, other nuts and seeds as well as pieces of fruit and vegetable. He is now about 20 years old. | | | | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | By the time Tiamet was 5 she stopped doing her native call completely. The first time she did it it scared the wits out of me but now I feel bad that she seems to have forgotten it. I have been looking for someone who has a Grey who still does it so that she will hear it and maybe do it occasionally. Its kind of like someone coming from another country and living in America so long that they lose their native language. | | | |
alamode (1852)
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5 years ago
| | We have a Ring-necked Dove that we found in the side yard one 4th of July... she was too close to the neighbors cat, so I picked her up. It turned out that my sister's friend had her outdoor aviary vandalised... someone thought all these hand-raised birds should be free! Many died... she was grateful we saved this one, and let us keep her. Everyone knows the lovely cooing sound that doves make... she's wonderful for keeping the blood pressure down... but about twice a day, for no apparent reason, she laughs like a lunatic! Its very loud, very human-sounding, and enough to give you chills up your spine! | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | I have a friend who has one of those and I have heard it laugh too. They can make sounds very much like human speach too, but sing song like. When I lived in a marina, there was a lady that raised cockatiels for breeding in an outside aviary and when there was a bad storm it would blow sideways and some of her birds would escape. I always had spare cages and ususally caught a few for her. One in particular was fond of Tiamet (White Feather). She would always show up and get to visit for a few days before going back home. Finally, when she got too old to breed, we got to keep her. | | | |
maximax8 (17649)
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5 years ago
| | It is wonderful to hear about the other birds. I think birds all know wild sorts of sounds through nature. But then they live with humans and therefore learn to talk. They carry on remembering the same words but don't learn any new words. In Australia there are many lovely birds like playful cockatoos. Which part of Africa does the African Grey come from I wonder. When I was in Mexico and Belize I saw postcards with a photo of a bird the same as Bingo. So White Fronted Amazons come from there no where near the Amazon River in South America. | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | African Greys come from the central part of Africa. From the south east portion of the Ivory Coast to the western end of Kenya and Tanzania and Angola. Greys from the Congo are larger than any of the others and Greys from Nigeria have darker wings. Of course this applies to wild birds. Once they have been interbred here in the states, I assume they lose these characteristics. Greys are the 3rd most commonly traded wild bird in the world. They are one of the few birds that use tools in the wild and they immitate the creatures around them even in the wild. They have even been heard immitating bats. Weird huh. Now you have the rest of the story! | | | |
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7. moneyandgc (3082)
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5 years ago
| | My mom had an African Grey parrot when I was growing up. She got her as a baby and trained her. She only liked my mom and would bite anyone else. This bird talked and talked and talked... When people would come to visit and stay overnight, she would scare them half to death if they got up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom. She made us laugh so much. I don't remember her being clumsy though. Your bird is probably this way due to the fact that she was neglected for so long. | | | | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | I don't know. I cannot find anyone around here who has a Grey except a lady who owns a parrot shop and her Grey is older and clumsier thatn mine. | | | |
CinderInMySoul (4337)
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5 years ago
| | ive heard a number of ppl call Greys "flying footballs" cause of their general clumsiness. its often like they arent paying close enough attention to where they are stepping and miss my milimeters instead lol. the one i had wasnt overly clumsy, but he certainly couldnt be considered graceful by any means! | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | I like that! Tiamet does not fly. Even when her wings are not clipped, she barely gets off the ground. (She is not fat, just chicken) But if she did fly, I am sure she would be a flying football. And she is definitely clumsly! | | | |
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8. irishmist (2752)
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5 years ago
| | I loved your story. It was very heart warming. I don't have an african gray, but would like to have one some day. I do have a cockateil though. He can talk & he oves to dance to hip hop music. His favorite song is "Drop it like its hot' by snoop dogg. | | | | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | I think the first thing I have always done with every bird I have ever had is checked to see if it was willing to dance. It was like a test to see if it could make a home with us . They all passed the test so maybe all birds like to dance. Tiamet dances but she cannot sing worth a hoot. She dances and makes me sing. We get along that way. Glad your bird passed the test too!! They are so much fun! | | | |
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9. LauraElrod (396)
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5 years ago
| | I H ave a 3 year old African Grey and he is silly. he use to fall off his perch all the time but now he just makes allot of chatter he repeats things people say and noises and even rings the phone and says hello what do you know lol he screams like my grandson and rings the bell | | | | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | Play tapes for him so that he learns to talk more. I got CD from the library of kids songs and made copies and I put them on befor I leave to go to the store so that My Grey has something to do while I am gone. She loves her CDs. They also make CDs that teach parrots little sayings, but you can just make tapes your self with a tape recorder. Just repeat things over and over into a recorder and then play it for him when you go out. | | | |
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10. LauraElrod (396)
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5 years ago
| | my grey is very silly he laughs and coughs to | | | | | | |
Adoniah (4166)
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5 years ago
| | Just make sure that no one teaches him bad words. They are very hard to unteach. You can but it is hard. | | | |
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