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myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8959)   ranked 1 out of 30 in florida 4 years ago

I know the schools are trying to encourage classes to share ideas and to reinforce information from other classes but why are students expected to be artists to pass an English Class? My niece has to do a book report. She has to draw 8 comic panels for different sections of the book including an alternate ending and then put a sentence under each explaining them. She not only has to draw but also color them. All this is to be done on a piece of construction paper 11 x 17 (which they don't sell around here, they sell 12 x 18 or normal paper size) that is to be divided into 8 squares. Then on the back she is to write a 3 paragraph summery.

Now this is just for this month's book. She has to do a book a month, each book has to have at least 200 pages. Some of the other projects have been a scrapbook, a newspaper, a mobile, to just name a few. This is a lot of art work if you ask me for an English class. I don't even want to see what next months will be.

Do other schools have this much art work required in the English classes or is it just something in my area? What do you think about this? Should students be graded for art work in an English Class?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 94/100. stephcjh (27638)   ranked 3 out of 30 in florida   4 years ago

Yes. I think that is alot of work also for one class. I would hate to see next month too. My daughter brings home that much work. It must be just in your area? I do not think students should have art in an English class. they ahve art classes for that! I wish you all well with it. Geesh!


myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8959)   ranked 1 out of 30 in florida  4 years ago

I can understand a little art work or creative things but this teacher goes over board. My niece had to see a coach last month about her grades and he took one look and saw she was getting a B in Language Arts. He asked "How are you getting a B in that class with all the crap work she gives out?" Now if another teacher realizes shouldn't that clue them in? Oh and no late papers allowed. If it's not done, too bad you get a 0.

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2. myLot reputation of 72/100. deeeky (1746)   4 years ago

happySounds very interesting work and must keep you occupied for days. I know your doing the work yourself but your niece has you hooked and rightly so. Schools now have so much to interest thier pupils with as it must be mind boggling sometimes.


myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8959)   ranked 1 out of 30 in florida  4 years ago

She does the art work, she's a much better artist then I am. thumbup I do help with putting some stuff together. Like with the scrapbook or the mobile. I will also assist in correcting the written part. She does the rough draft and I'll type it out for her. She does do the bulk of the work.

I don't really have a problem with them doing a book a month but I think she should make the reports more reasonable. My thought is at this age you want to get them into reading, get them to enjoy it, that is more important then anything.


myLot reputation of 72/100. deeeky (1746)  4 years ago

When you say get them into reading I never thought of your neices age so she is doing well in completeing that kind of work.

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3. myLot reputation of 64/100. GnosticGoddess (3488)   4 years ago

WOW! That is a lot!
I can see the newspaper being included but not comic books or mobiles.
I can't say what's going on too much in our area but I haven't heard my niece having to do anything like this. What grade is your niece in?


myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8959)   ranked 1 out of 30 in florida  4 years ago

She's in 8th grade. Next year starts high school and I'm so not looking forward to it. Even with the newspaper she had a lot to draw with it. Can't remember all the parts but part was a comic strip, a head story with image etc. Lot of work. I really wonder what this teacher is thinking.


myLot reputation of 64/100. GnosticGoddess (3488)  4 years ago

Oh wow! I didn't realize she had to draw with the newspaper too!? That's really strange!!

My niece is only in the 5th grade.

I think that this serious kind of art should be left in art class for sure.


myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8959)   ranked 1 out of 30 in florida  4 years ago

I agree it should be. I can understand a little bit but the amount she has them doing is just unreal. I have to wonder how many of the kids really are finishing it all.


myLot reputation of 64/100. GnosticGoddess (3488)  4 years ago

That's a good question. I wonder if anyone has talked to the principal about it.


myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8959)   ranked 1 out of 30 in florida  4 years ago

For some reason I never got the notification on this one. We did speak to the principal on this and the response was "All the schools are doing it". Yeah sure they are. rolleyes She'll be at a different school next year so hopefully it will be better.


myLot reputation of 64/100. GnosticGoddess (3488)  4 years ago

That's okay.

Humm...nice response from the principal LOL. I hope the new school works out better :)

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15799)   4 years ago

My G-d. I am getting tired just reading all these projects.How old is your niece?16?It sounds like the teacher is making them make a graphic novel , not a regular book report.If I had to do this for my English class, I would have failed English.


myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8959)   ranked 1 out of 30 in florida  4 years ago

You and me both. She's in 8th grade and is 13 years old. We tried complaining but the school said "All the schools are doing it"; yeah right. In other words they don't want to hear it. I'll be glad when this year is over with.


myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15799)  4 years ago

13? I would have never been able to do that when I was 13.

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5. myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18785)   4 years ago

if your school doesn't have an art class it might be a way of getting art out to students,

or it might be just the teacher and his or her preference,

I have no idea did you ask the teacher about it?


myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8959)   ranked 1 out of 30 in florida  4 years ago

No they have art classes. We complained to the Principal and the teacher that is the head for the group of teachers. We were told "all the schools are doing it and the head of the department approved it". The fact that this teacher is the head of the department was not lost on us. We just have to try and get her through it and hope next year is better.

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6. myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12885)   4 years ago

I'm an Australian so perhaps my answer doesn't count.

Perhaps the teacher is trying to make things interesting for the class rather than the same old reading and essay assignments. This type of thing also helps open up ideas to expression and creativity.


myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (8959)   ranked 1 out of 30 in florida  4 years ago

Well I can understand trying to make things interesting but the work this teacher is requiring is a bit much. For example with the one they had to do a scrap book. It entailed not only at least 5 mementos that the person would have and an explanation for each, a dairy entry for the main character (this was to be done for after the story to say what they did afterwards), a letter from the main character to the secondary character, a response letter from the secondary (both of these having to deal with the problem of the story and how to resolve it), a summary of the events of the book, 5 pictures, and the cover. There were a couple of more things with it but can't remember but once done it had a total of 10 pages typed out and glued in plus the images and mementos.

Now remember this is for a 13 year old to do and they are to read the book and to the full report within a month but they can't start the report till they finish the book since the report asks for info from all parts. Things like this are done every month and it counts for a good portion of their grade even though they have a bunch of other work to do as well.

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