Tell me your thughts on this  | | | | I know to most this well sound far out, but I have been seeing all the post about Christianity and aliens, and how the two are seemingly opposed to each other. Heres the question and the reasoning behind the question. Have you read in the book of Gen. about the "sons of God" comming down and haveing childern with women? heres the thing. What would it take to deceive the whole world into fallowing and worshipping a false god that did false mericles? We read stories today about "alien abductions" and the exsperiments that are done on women with thier reproductive organs and such. Would it be possible that the "aliens" and sons of God are the same, and like in the days of Noah these beings will produce a human/god offspring? and the false miricles he does is realy technology, like calling fire from the sky? If this person came and was also able to call on an armada of "space ships" or firey chariots would you beleive and fallow him? what if he said that they were the gods of ancient times? Your thoughts. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| 1. sisterjinx (937)
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4 years ago
| | I think that your thought process is awesome. And you are 100% right. If an alien race with advanced technology and very few morals wanted to play games with the minds of lesser beings then why couldn't they and why wouldn't they. It would be very easy. My other thought about this is, let's say we do believe that God created the heavens and the Earth. Who's to say that he/she didn't create many worlds with many humanoids and other beings. We are very self-centered to believe that God would not or could not do this. We must believe that we are pretty awesome and perfect to believe that God might never try again or that we were even the first try. Either way, I like your philosophical outlook on this. I don't know if I believe that aliens came here and pretended they were God but it is interesting and entirely possible. I do however believe that we are not alone in the cosmos. | | | | | | | freethinkingagent (1056)
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4 years ago
| | Thanks sisterjinx, The bible mentions these Bene Elohim (hebrew) sons of God sevral places, Some are good and the others, well. Also mentioned are the malikim or angels, so there are at least two other creations of God, some work agenst man, the others are helpful to man. | | | | | | | Browse for a New Armada Browse our huge inventory of New & Pre-Owned Nissans online. www.BrennerNissan.com | add comment | | | |
| 2. whiteheron (1264)
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4 years ago
| | Frankly, if I saw something like a lot of space ships coming to Earth, I would more believe it was the military with back engineered technology than a flock of aliens landing here. There are those who are saying now that there is a group of people who planned first to have the terrorists as an excuse for the weaponizing of space, then the possibility of meteorites or comets hitting the earth and last the faked invasion by aliens. And those who have spoken about this were contractors for the military who were privy to information that the majority of us are not privy too. This was part of Greer's Disclosure Project now on you tube and from what I have heard elsewhere there is much of this that is credible. (By the way, the purpose for this was to fund the military industrial complex and if you looked at the latest budget with all of that money going to that and to special ops projects, you would believe that something fishy was indeed happening.) I think that the aliens or star visitors or, as the Native Americans have called them, star elders, have been here for many years and that in some ways, we are they...It has been argued by others that we were somehow genetically modified or jumpstarted from the ape like beings that were here and given DNA from the star people. I do not know if this is true or not but there are some scientists who believe this. Even if this is totally false, which is well may be, it can be argued that we are relations of theirs and that they are a part of the sacred hoop and are no less and no greater than we in being creations of the Creator. There have been some Native American friends of mine who fasted and prayed and had encounters with beings from the stars who were very kind and loving to them. These beings healed injuries and did assist them in other ways. In the oral tradition of many tribes such as the Lakota with its White Buffalo Calf woman and the Sacred Pipe which was given to them by her along with the food they consumed for centuries and the Hopis with their blue aliens and others which taught them about planting, etc. these beings were mostly benign although they were of the Great Mystery. There has been, in the past,in the Catholic Church some discussion by the priest who has run the telescope that the Vatican has believed that the aliens are not demons and that it is possible that they are indeed our relations and could even be followers of Jesus. The Vatican has not wanted to challenge the eye witness reports because Christianity itself was based primarily on eye-witness reports. There has been talk of abductions for testing,etc. by the government occurring at the same time as so called abductions by the aliens... It is possible that two things have been occurring. What better cover for testing people in the Nevada, Arizona area and testing cattle too in the areas where nuclear activity may have caused genetic changes in the population than abductions... It is not all that far fetched as in other countries the "disappeared" run into the thousands. In this country, it seems as if there has been testing on a wide scale of the public at times throughout history and often without the permission of the ones being tested. It seems though that the testing procedures, if there are any, have gotten more sophisticated with druggings,etc. and also with RF technology that could potentially mimic an abduction. There is ample talk about this all over the net. It seems to me that there are those who would like to believe in a so-called "alien agenda" but that these people are often feeding at the trough of those who have something to gain from distorting information and perhaps preparing us for the next battle against an other sentinent being who we do not recognize as being like ourselves because of a different appearance, language, skin tone or geographical background. In movies in the 40s when the UFOs were seen, the people realized that the aliens were peaceful and that it was humanity and its fear of the "other" that could not be trusted. It seems that with our tendency towards fear, revenge, greed and avarice, we are not as benevolent as we could be. If adventurers or cultural anthropologists or even psychologist and other scientists from outside our world came here, could we now see them as relations and not as Gods or Devils? I would hestitate a lot before buying into fear mongering about aliens or anything else as it normally tends to reduce our civil rights and liberties and runs counter to the Bibical prescription to "Fear Not." It is more likely that the "aliens" are good angels or even beings like us in a different form. I would hope that they would relate to us as equals and friends as I am not looking for another God to worship. The one who resides in all and the one who created all and sustains all is enough for me. | | | | | | | freethinkingagent (1056)
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4 years ago
| | This is great, I beleive much of what you posted. Yes there is the need to weaponise space. If you have read some comments from past world leaders including ronald reagan, there are some who either believe in UFO's or try to use it as a rouse to weaponise space. Some beleive that roswell was actualy a black ops US military exspiriment conected to operation paper clip. The reason the miltary first issued a press release stateing they had recovered a UFO and then attempted to cover it up with the high altatude balloon story was to redirect attention. They wanted everyone to beleive it was a UFO so nobody would ever expect it was a US craft. As for an invading fleet of E.T's actualy no crafts would be needed as they are able to project emages into the stratisphere with the aid of H.A.A.R.P. They can also raise the earths tempature (global warming hoax) by warming the atmosphere. They developed this technology in hopes of sending transmissions world wide incase a Nuclear attack took out our communications. They are able to send transmissions thrugh the earth itself, wich can also couse another problem, Earth Quakes. I am familure with the theories of pan-spermia, the belief that we origanated from the stars and E.T. might be our father. But I reject this becouse I beleive they are created beings, although much older and much more advanced, I beleive as stated in Gen. that these beings artificialy inseminated earths females and the offspring were something terable. These were the gods of the nations and their children were also worshiped as gods, So God destroied them with the flood, atleast the children. The others were inprissoned. But realy who knows, If it is project paper clip then we still have something to worry about, it was also cooperated with MJ-12 and other "mind controle" projects, wich by the way H.A.A.R.P. is also said to be able to "subdue" peoples minds, and make them more calm or sedated. Anyway thanks for the great responce. | | | | whiteheron (1264)
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4 years ago
| | This is great, I beleive much of what you posted. You said, "Yes there is the need to weaponise space." I believe that it is unwise to weaponize space as we can ill afford another arms race and as it will be costly and will only benefit the military industrial complex which needs to be starved at present. There have been sightings of UFOs for many years before Roswell. The historical record is full of sightings and of contact experiences and the United States has been shooting down UFOs for longer than that as well. If you look at the historical record, Christopher Columbus saw a bright light that came out of nowhere and it directed him to the land. UFOs flying over Los Angeles prior to the Roswell Incident were shot at. There have been many military personnel to state that we have indeed shot others down and that we have now advanced aircraft due to back engineering. It would be of course, the humans and not the aliens that would use H.A.R.P. in this manner as the aliens are too sophisticates to need this foolishness which has been already blamed for perhaps causing that major tsunami which wiped out so many people amoung other things. I rather doubt that a group of aliens who have made it to this world would be as barbaric as we are as if they managed to travel far away from their planets they would have of necessity had to move away from warring, etc. as it is difficult to really do justice to space exploration if there are stupid leaders who are trying to get into wars and blow things and people up... the money that can be spent on space exploration gets sucked up by needless warring mighty fast. I was, by the way not talking about pan spermia. There are those who are saying now that genetic engineering is still going on and that the result of this is seen in more intuitive and smarter children who will be more likely to avoid blowing themselves up with more advanced technologies than the people who presently like nothing more than to make a mess. I do not believe in the interpretation that you or some have had regarding genisis. I think that the language used in this book of the Bible conceals as much as it reveals. It is quite possible for example that Noah had the genetic material for all animals and not all the animals in actuallity. And it is quite possible that just as men are quite capable of creating life in a test tube, the aliens of old did the same too and did in fact, as God is equally in all beings he creates, help us to be today as we are. It is possible. There remains alway a potential, once a technology has gotten developed by the DOD or by corporations that do its bidding, that innocent people and the Earth itself will get hurt by it. H.A.R.P. and the other things you mention are just such technologies. I think perhaps that fear is useless even of these things... It is far better to stand firm. Have faith in your God whoever or whatever you conceive him or her or It to be...and be content where you are and eager to assist others and the world at large. I believe strongly that all beings are related to me and that all are part of the same wonderful hoop of creation and that we are all equally loved and equally created. It does not matter if someone comes from Earth, Mars, Zeta Reticulli, the Pledies, etc. we remain forever brothers and sisters. | | | | freethinkingagent (1056)
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4 years ago
| | Funny that you mention Noah haveing maybe the DNA of animals? Their is a diferent version of the story in the coptic bible that says that noah exscaped the flood on a ship... that took him into the clouds. Hey I think you should see this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=u81nk1gn8ao You will crap!!!! Also are you fanilure with the tree of life? The hebrew mistics have a rendering of it a ten spears connected by pathways, there are other cultures that have the tree of life as well and they all are very simuler, cercles, flowers orbs or sphears connected by pathways, lines or branches. If you are familure with these I would challange you to see it a diffenet way, The very much resemble the double helix of a DNA strand pertrade one damintionaly. Is this why the Gods removed us from the tree? so that we would not portake of it and Live for ever? the tree of life and the tree of knowlege? | | | | freethinkingagent (1056)
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4 years ago
| | Oh and I ment the military has the "need to weaponize space" | | | | | | | | | Learn about God's Truth Get Closer to God. Learn about Our Heavenly Father & His Plan for You. www.mormon.org | add comment | | | |
| 3. ShardAerliss (651)
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4 years ago
| | One question; where did they go? Did we win a war against them, as in Stargate? Did they get bored and up and leave? Did some interstellar power pull them out and make Earth a now go zone a la Dr Who? I'm as open to this idea as the next person (show me the evidence of something and I'll look at it with a fortean eye, always) but I do have to wonder what happened that made them go... if they were ever here. | | | | | | | freethinkingagent (1056)
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4 years ago
| | Okay, ofcourse I have no proof, but I can show some scritures as to what happened to them. First their offspring was the cause of the flood, Gen 6:1-7. They were destroied. Other places in the bible , old and new it talks of "those angels that rebelled" (the sons of God thet came down) being put in a prison in the earth. The word angel is sometimes the words bene Elohim (sons of God) and not angels (malakim) in the hebrew. Jesus talked about them as so did John in the book of 'revalation', he says they were waiting for a day, and an hour when they would be set free when an Angel with the key to the pit would set them free. There prison is said to be between the tigrus and eufratis rivers (moderen day Iraq) and that they have a king over them names Abadon or the destroter. It also says they have (flying things) as the word in greek being translated as locus is diferent from the insect and means simply a fllying thing. | | | | vonkristoffer (248)
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4 years ago
| | bro freethinkingagent you mean the alien is satan itself? coz you are talking about the angel of light who rebelled against God. | | | | freethinkingagent (1056)
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4 years ago
| | Satan is translated from the Hebrew Hele Ben-Shakar, he was one of the "Shining ones" wich can also be translated as serpent. It was Satan who talked to Eve in the Garden, Satan is also a "Bene Elohim" sons of God mentioned in the bible, I am saying the creatures, entaties that are know today as alians are the same in the mid centuries called demons and in the old testament as the Bene Elohim | | | | | TruthVision (16)
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4 years ago
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