Should Lieberman Be Stripped of His Chairmanship Next Year?
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
June 11, 2008 12:08am CST
Does anyone else here feel as I do that next year, after the Democrats expand their majority in the U.S.Senate, Joe Lieberman, I-CT, should be stripped of his committee chairmanship? I didn't like it or necessarily approve but I got that the Democrats needed him to agree to caucus with them after the 2006 election gave them a very slim majority so they had no real choice but to give him a cookie - um, I mean, let him be Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security but if the 2008 Congressional Elections turn out as expected they won't need to kiss his sorry butt anymore. Let him go on more trips to Iraq to babysit McCain when he gets his sects mixed up or whatever else he may want to do, but let him cut all ties with the party who once chose him as VP candidate. Just call me - "BITTER" in Pennsylvania!
Annie
3 responses
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
11 Jun 08
See Annie, thinking like this is why we keep getting right and left wing extremists nominated for presidential elections. Everyone freaks out when a person thinks for himself and makes his own decisions instead of selling his soul to his political party. A lot of people hated McCain for just that reason, but this election shows that the republicans are willing to give a moderate guy a chance. I always like Lieberman because he was a moderate democrat and not an automoton like Tom Daschle or Howard Dean. Democrats show their true colors when they punish their own party members or former ones at least for independent thought.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
12 Jun 08
Ok, I shouldn't have said extremists. What we get is people who can't work with the other party. Bush and Clinton both were unable to work well with people from the opposing party. Obama certainly doesn't have any friends on the other side of the fence. Lieberman and McCain are people that are willing to actually work with members of the other party even though their own party criticizes them for it.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
6 Jul 08
"Bush and Clinton both were unable to work well with people from the opposing party."
With Clinton, it was more than the opposing party wouldn't work with them while Bush hasn't wanted to work with Congress PERIOD, regardless of party, if they didn't want to do his exact bidding. He's the decider, remember?
Annie

@Smith2028 (797)
• United States
11 Jun 08
Yes, he should be stripped of his Chairmanship, so then he will start caucusing with the Republicans. Lieberman is a true moderate, and that scares the liberal bigwigs in the Democratic Party.
I do however disagree that the Democrats will expand their majority. I think at best for you it will hold, at worst, you may lose that majority. I know it is a stretch, but at the same time, so was my prediction that Clinton wouldn't win the nomination.
I think people are tired of the current administration and the current congress. While most of the attention focuses on the Presidential Approval numbers, Congress actually has the lowest rating they have ever seen also. It is time for a change, and I think people know it.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 Jun 08
You say, "Lieberman is a true moderate, and that scares the liberal bigwigs in the Democratic Party." Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts about John McCain? Is he also a "true moderate" and does that "scare the conservative bigwigs in the Republican Party"? Perhaps they're right to be scared because they're RIGHT...lol?
I do have to respectfully disagree with your prediction about the Democratic majority; Democrats already took three very Republican seats recently in special elections so that doesn't bode well at all for the November election. We both correctly predicted Clinton wouldn't win the nomination so I guess this prediction would be considered even odds!
Annie
P.S., Should we make a friendly wager?
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
11 Jun 08
Hello Annie,
Joe Lieberman committed the ultimate 'party' sin -- HE DARED TO THINK FOR HIMSELF. He put the interests of the nation over the interests of the party honchos, and what did he get for it? The party drove him out! Despite the concerted attack, he ran as an Independent and won. Why? Because his constituency (the voters) support him, and re-elected him to continue to represent them. Joe Lieberman consistently votes with the Democrats on the overwhelming majority of issues. He sponsors or co-sponsors much of the legislation that the Dem's seek. Yet, you support the Democrat party throwing him out like last weeks trash. Why? Because he won't be a weak little Pelosi/Reid drone?
So much for change!
So much for 'diversity'!
So much for inclusion!
So much for the 'will of the people'!
Talk about the perpetuation of D.C. politics as ususal!
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 Jun 08
First of all, unless I'm missing something this is only my personal thought, not something I'm aware of the Democratic leadership even considering. Be honest, if there were a Republican Senator who, even during the primary process, came out in support of one of the Democratic nominees, how would you feel? I think you'd want him put into the incinerator ASAP, bypassing the trash! There are plenty of Democrats who think for themselves but when one goes as far as to help perpetuate the dirt being spread about the Democratic nominee in order to help the candidate he's endorsed, that's going too far.
Annie
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 Jun 08
I can't believe I forgot to mention, isn't this the same thing your party, or at least many members of your party have done to McCain? He's far more in step with the GOP than Lieberman is with the Democrats yet I hear and read every day how McCain is a "maverick" who often goes against his party.
Annie
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
11 Jun 08
Annie,
"I think you'd want him put into the incinerator ASAP, bypassing the trash!"
Your thinking is most definitely wrong!
I've made no secret of the fact that I do not like John McCain. In fact, I would have alot more respect for McCain if he had followed Joe Lieberman's lead, and embraced his 'maverick spirit' as an Independent. It took a tremendous amount of courage for Joe Lieberman to run separate from the party.
quote - Annie
"... when one goes as far as to help perpetuate the dirt being spread about the Democratic nominee in order to help the candidate he's endorsed, that's going too far."
and here's a slightly different perspective:
when a politician will speak the truth, in the face of tremendous opposition and pressure to 'tow the line', to endorse and support a candidate that he or she really believes is the most qualified candidate, especially if that candidate hails from the other side of the aisle: if the candidate in question really is that terrific, then quite frankly, I call that true grit!!!
This kind of action takes great courage, commitment, and self-confidence. Traits a great many on 'the Hill' would do well to emulate!
Oh, and Annie, I'm just gonna' chalk this discussion up to you having a really 'off day'. I cannot otherwise imagine that you would have consciously suggested putting a Jewish person in an incinerator.




