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myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (5064)   ranked 414 out of 3,984 in politics 4 years ago

Today's infamous 5-4 decision by the U.S. Supreme Court granting terrorists the right to an O.J. trial in U.S. civilian courts cries out for the present Chief Executive to so paraphrase Old Hickory's similar defiance of John Marshall 176 years ago with respect to removal of the Cherokee from Georgia.
"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it."
The nation survived President Andrew Jackson's defense of his constitutional executive powers against the first Judicial Oligarch. Should President Bush succumb to Justice Kennedy's attempted coup to assume the role of Commander in Chief, it will be much harder for our nation to survive, much less thrive, as it has since 1832. The people being held at Gitmo are illegal enemy combatants and have no right. General George Washington applied the war law that has always allowed illegal enemy combatants operating among civilian populations to be shot on site or summarily executed. Maybe that was our mistake we did not shoot them.







 

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1. myLot reputation of 42/100. redyellowblackdog (4040)   4 years ago

I'm aware of Old Hickory's historical defiance of the Supreme Court. That will not work for President Bush. Too many want to impeach President Bush. Acting clearly in defiance of the constitution by ignoring the Supreme Court would get him booted out of office. President Bush would be impeached by the House and convicted in the Senate.

Shame on the Supreme Court, but it will take a new law to trump the Supreme Court. I don't know how the President can do it. I don't think an executive order could do it, though maybe it could.

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2. myLot reputation of 78/100. lissavalerian (144)   ranked 379 out of 3,984 in politics   4 years ago

This doesn't sound like a very libertarian position. Some of the people "rounded up" for Gitmo were not caught "on the field" - in fact, many many of the people at GITMO are ... believe it or not INNOCENT. Whatever happened until "innocent until proven guilty"?

http://www.cjr.org/behind...

A CIA report had concluded in the summer of 2002 and the majority of Guantanamo detainees probably didn't deserve to be there.

Your attitude of "kill them all - let God sort them out" seems completely anti-libertarian. What ever happened to liberty? Or are we just about scooping up people, declaring them guilty just because of the country they happen to be in, and then summarily executing them?

http://www.lp.org/platform

"The rights of due process, a speedy trial, legal counsel, trial by jury, and the legal presumption of innocence until provenguilty must not be denied. We assert the common-law right of juries to judge not only the facts but also the justice of the law."


myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (5064)   ranked 414 out of 3,984 in politics  4 years ago

Yes I know that my opinions do not fly as a Libertarian position. My opinion is that the Constitution does not grant rights to foreigners.


myLot reputation of 78/100. lissavalerian (144)   ranked 379 out of 3,984 in politics  4 years ago

Liberty for us, but not for others?

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3. myLot reputation of 20/100. Tallymommy (1907)   4 years ago

Welcome to our current congress...

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4. myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11663)   ranked 328 out of 3,984 in politics   4 years ago

I think they made the right decision. How can we promote democracy to the rest of the world when we're not willing to extend basic human rights to these prisoners, many of whom have been found to be innocent. I say thank God we didn't just shoot them, just imagine the ammunition that would give to those who already hate us. I'm not sticking up for or defending terrorists I'm just saying these detainees should be consider innocent until proven guilty in the same way as we would hope to be treated. If someone is indeed found guilty of being a terrorist then they deserve the very worst possible punishment but I don't like the idea of detaining indefinitely or torturing the innocent.
Annie

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