I Can Not Support the 2008 summer olympics in Beijing, China  |
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 I don't know why China was ever considered for hosting the 2008 Summer Olympics with their blatant history of oppressing their own people and the citizens of other countries such as Burma.
But the thing that really made up my mind to personally boycott the 2008 Summer Olympic in Beijing, China is what they and Russia did today.
Russia and China vetoed a resolution to impose new sanctions on the murderous leaders of Zimbabwe.
During Zimbabwe's recent election, the opposition's Morgan Tsvangirai and his Movement for Democratic Change party faced a campaign of violence by Mugabe supporters, which left dozens dead and thousands injured and forced from their homes.
If you don't thing that is bad enough to impose sanctions, then read about the womem who were raped for opposing President Mugabe. Here is the link.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7465101.stm
This decision proves that neither China or Russia has the moral decency to be considered true World leaders.
Zimbabwe has hailed the failure of a UN Security Council resolution to impose new sanctions on the country's leaders.
The UK said it was incomprehensible, while the US said the veto brought into question Russia's reliability as a G8 partner.
What do you think about China being given the opportunity to host the 2008 Summer Olympics? You know my feelings.
Lloyd
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1.  Aussies2007 (2607) | 5 months ago |  I remember back in the early nineties how Australia played the "human rights" card to win the right to host the Olympics in 2000... while China was favourite to win them.
Things have changed this then.
China is in a full economic boom... and the Western world wants a slice of it. We all want to trade with China. Stuff human rights... money is what's count. And part of that deal's trade was to give them the Olympics.
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| lloydanthony111 (1179) | 5 months ago | It's really ashame that the world has put economic ties with China over their shameful human rights record.
They seem to have their hands in so many places where people are begin tortured.
They support Zimbabwe, Sudan, Burma, North Korea and other countries like these.
As far as I'm concerned they don't deserve the attention the world is giving them.
Lloyd | |
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2.  jillmalitz (3136) | 5 months ago |  I guess since they have one of the largest populations they want to show off themselves. But I have always questioned the fact that they were awarded the olympics. Their politics has always been suspect plus they have so many cultural issues as well as pollution problems that can't be improved in time. If they are trying to improve their image this way I don't think they did a good job.
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| lloydanthony111 (1179) | 5 months ago | Their politics are more than suspect. Their human rights records are just terrible.
They have restrictions on Independent Organizing.
They have restrictions on Free Speech and the Media.
They suppress Religious Freedom.
Here is the link for the China Human Rights Fact Sheet. Check it out.
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/hr_facts.html
Lloyd
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| 3. snowy22315 (5402) | 5 months ago |  That is terrible. I wonder why they would not go along with thos sanctions. It is very troubling. I think that the Olympics are going to go on there no matter what. I think the only reason that the US is supporting the games being there is that China is our premiere trade partner and without trade with China our economy would be dead. It's in ill health already.
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| lloydanthony111 (1179) | 5 months ago | It is terrible. They don't go along with the sanctions because they have no morals and they don't care about oppressed people.
They have no problem oppressing their own people, so why should they care about others doing the same thing.
I hope the next administration will show more courage when dealing with China.
There are somethings more important than cheap labor.
Lloyd | |
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4.  sirensanssmile (2695) | 5 months ago |  The USSR and communism may have broken up but their ideals still exist which is evident in not only their decision to often back oppressive governments but in their constant and vocal disagreements on other matters not pertaining to them.
It is either a matter of the Russian governments desire to be contrary in most issues or just that they simply really feel differently than others.
Example would be when the US had plans to put anti-missile tech in certain former oppressed countries like Czech and Poland and Russia was complaining and making accusations that it had something to do with them. I can't help but wonder why the paranoia? Why would those defense capabilities have to do with Russia? Hmm
Though they fought about it tooth and nail when really it wasn't their matter anyway. Why is it their business if US helps those countries with defense?
This is the kind of thinking behind that government and still they side with oppression over other progressive sorts.
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| lloydanthony111 (1179) | 5 months ago | You are right. Just look at how Putin basically picked his successor and remained the man pulling the strings.
Russia still wants to be a major player on the world stage. That is why the opposed the anti-missile system for Poland. They have to come to grips with the facts that they aren't as powerful as they used to be.
Their power came from oppressing the people of the former Soviet Union. Now that it has broken up, countries are beginning to challenge the Russian's perceived authority.
Anyway, I believe that both China and Russia opposition to sanctions against Sudan and Zimbabwe shows that neither country deserves a leadership role when it comes to world affair.
Lloyd | |
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| sirensanssmile (2695) | 5 months ago | Thinking back to this I saw on the news the other day they were talking about Radovan Karadžic and his recent capture and the decision to send him over to the international court in Den Haag. This man supposedly made mass killings during the bad times in Bosnia/Serbia area. They call some of it genocide.... Anyway they were looking for him for a bit and finally got him.
All other countries spokespeople interviewed and were praising the decision to send him on and proclaiming that this was a good show that the former Yugoslavia areas were willing to cooperate in international stuffs.... The EU countries, USA and Uk all praising. Then there was Russia.... of course Russia was contrary to what all the other countries were saying. Apparently Russia wants to end the international court. They don't like the idea and while I agree on some points with Russia that more control over countries criminals should be up to the country and not international grounds like this their reasons were different.
Now I wanted to quote the actual text and found they had removed it from the site I read it on. Anyway Russia doesn't praise Serbians for this and doesn't agree that he should be on international tribunal because he feels that they are bias and the man won't get a fair trial....
This man is accused as being a main component in genocide, atrocities and mass killings and yet Russia doesn't want to see the man go up to the tribunal over it. | |
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5.  urbandekay (3579) | 5 months ago |  I agree, nothing more to say, all has been said.
all the best urban
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| lloydanthony111 (1179) | 5 months ago | Hello Urban.
Thanks for understanding my opinions on this subject.
There is one thing I want to make clear. My rants have nothing to do with the people of China or Russia. It's all about the leadership of these to countries.
I know the people of these countries don't support what's going on in Sudan or Zimbabwe.
Lloyd | |
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| 6. Zmugzy (561) | 5 months ago |  I sympathise with what your saying. The international community needs to come together in order to solve the problem of Mugabe. I would equally blame many of the neighbouring African governments (especially South Africa and Thabo Mbeki) for not taking a moral stance against the Mugabe dictatorship.
However I would refrain from totally giving the UK, USA or the other Western Governments the moral high ground over Russia and China. When it comes to corrupt, violent, oppressive regimes such as Saudi Arabia, the only thing that counts is oil dollars and I always find it sickening to see how much our leaders grovel whenever a Saudi Arabian official stops over for a visit.
I suppose the Olympics were handed to China partially in the hope that the country would at least partially mend its ways. You have to admit that there is definitely more news stories coming out of China about the pollution, corruption of local officials, the forced evictions and demolition of homes to make way for the Olympic stadia and village and the fear of citizens who see their neighbours being beaten up because they refuse to leave their homes. But it is for these reasons, rather than the Zimbabwe veto, that I will not be taking that much of an interest in these Olympic Games of 2008.
Let us hope though that some good does come out of it and that the door to freedom and democracy is at least pushed open slightly.
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| lloydanthony111 (1179) | 5 months ago | I am so disappointed in Thabo Mbeki, the South African leader. South Africa, more than any other country, should sympathize with what's going on in Zimbabwe. Yet he has not, condemned Robert Mugabe.
The African continent needs to step up to the plate and end the kind of oppression and tyrany going on in Zimbabwe.
I agree with you that the United States has it's head in the sand when it comes to Saudi Arabia.
There have beem more stories about the problems going on in China, but the Chineese authorities still continue to ignore world opinion.
If China want to be a true world leader, then they have to earn that respect. As far as I'm concerned they haven't done that so far.
Lloyd | |
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7.  WhatsHerName (1731) | 4 months ago |  Ok, believe it or not, I have been meditating about this topic for 4 weeks now, as well as on and off through the years. It seems that every time there is an Olympic Game, there is something for someone to boycott about.
Today I watched the opening ceremonies and thought some more about it and decided that we should never, ever boycott the Olympics. It's simply not fair. It's not fair to the athelets who worked so hard to get there. It's not fair to the people especially those who suffer daily hardships like we have never drempt about.
The Games are supposed to represent us setting aside our differences for two weeks, every 4 years.
I am very proud of the way President Bush handled the situation this year, that's enough for me.
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| lloydanthony111 (1179) | 4 months ago | I am glad that George W Bush used a speech given on the eve of the opening of the Beijing Olympics to call on the Chinese government to respect the human rights of its people.
The behavior of the Chinese authorities shoud not be overlooked because they are hosting the Olympics. They have many things to answer for, mainly their support of the genocidal leaders of Darfur, Sudan.
To me that matters and that's enough for me.
Lloyd
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