I will never take my laptop again when I travel to the US.
By bonbon664
@bonbon664 (3466)
Canada
July 17, 2008 10:05am CST
Did you know that US customs can not only check your laptop to make sure it's really, only a laptop, but, download the whole hard drive?
Courts have recently upheld appeals that say it's fine and dandy for them to check your hard drive. I think that's going waaaay beyond appropriate. I don't think terrorists are going to send emails and have plans on a laptop they're bringing across the border. It's also unclear as to where the information will be held, and for how long, and for what. So, I won't even bring it if I don't need it. And if you refuse, you know at least you'll miss your flight, and probably be socked away in some little room. It's not right in my opinion.
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@Gargoyle0134 (1257)
• United States
17 Jul 08
They want to make sure no one that comes here is up to no good. If you are OK, it shouldn't bother you. That's my opinion. You may not have noticed, but 3,000 folks here were mordered just a few years back and we have to be careful now.
If you have company data that you do not want to be seen, then send a portable hard drive through in the mail overnight to your destination and do not carry it on your hard drive. Otherwise..I agree and you should not bring your laptop.
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
17 Jul 08
I doubt that terrorists will have incriminating evidence about terrorist activity on a laptop they're carrying with them.
@Wolfechu (1193)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Has this actually happened to you? I've been through US customs more times than I care to remember, the last with a full-on laptop and a PDA which would be indistinguishable from a laptop. Never have I been so much as asked to turn them on.
If courts have upheld the decision, there'll be very clear guidelines as to where and how long the information from such a situation would be held. They're 'unclear' because you haven't looked ;)
And frankly, they can look on mine all they want. Beyond being impressed with my Nethack highscore table, there's not a damned thing on there they'd find remotely interesting. Why would you want to refuse?
@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
17 Jul 08
I wouldn't refuse, becasue I want to get on a flight. I don't think it's necessary, it's the same as letting the government come into my house becasue they feel like it, and take a quick look around. I don't think so.
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
17 Jul 08
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/02/11/laptop.searches/index.html
http://www.californiacriminallawyerblog.com/2008/04/customs_officers_at_internatio.html
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Customs_agents_can_copy_data_from_0211.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/06/AR2008020604763.html
@Wolfechu (1193)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Again, though, this is something I wouldn't have a problem with, more or less because they'd be bored rigid with the lack of illegal and/or interesting things going on in my house. I'm not suggesting you have something to hide, but if not, that would strike me as trivial if it's done within existing legal guidelines.
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@GardenGerty (169505)
• United States
17 Jul 08
I agree with you, that would be something like illegal search and seizure. If you have done something that would make you suspicious, maybe it would be okay, but the regular traveller should not have to put up with that.
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
17 Jul 08
The court found that there's an "exception" to the 4th Amendment against unreasonable search and seizure at the border.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
17 Jul 08
I never heard of this. I do not have a laptop, but when I do, I will just have my novel on it, my fan fiction, and anything to do with my writing, and I will be checking myLot, and my email, but that is about all.
Would they not ask for your permission? And since I might need to get some information straight for my novel since it is years ago, I might need the help of one of the customs officers anyway.
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
17 Jul 08
They don't need your permission, it's the same as looking through your luggage.
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Maybe they are afraid that someone will blow up a plane with one that was wired funny. I don't think we can be too safe when flying but how far is too far??
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
17 Jul 08
I don't mind them opening it up to see if it really is a computer, but, I don't want them checking my drive.
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
17 Jul 08
I'm not sure why they would do that unless they want to see if it is a bomb in a computer shell and all is working properly. I dunno I'm just guessing.
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@inia_54 (175)
• Malaysia
18 Jul 08
Uuuhhh. That makes travelling very unenjoyable. Nowadays lap-top is part of our life. For some, lap-top is their souce of income. Some carry lap-top 'cos while travelling they can do online business. So if the US customs over reacted on the matter. Can our US friends in MyLotter do something about this?
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
18 Jul 08
We cannot blame them. With the high tech used by terrorist, the government have to be very strict to deter terrorism. They have to start from the entry point of that country to make it safe for everyone. People like us who are good natured people do not understand the risk that the terrorist used in their crazy business. Whatever it is we got to be patient with whatever precautions they take to check on passengers. We should be thankful that they are there to monitor the security of the country.
@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
18 Jul 08
They have already checked the passengers before you get on a flight, and I really doubt that terrorists are going to have information about terrorist activities on a laptop or blackberry they're carrying with them.
@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
18 Jul 08
wow that is really taking it too far. how can they just download the whole hard drive? who will ensure confidentiality of the information contained therein? thankfully i have no intention to go there any time soon. i use my laptop for online shopping and internet banking. who knows what will happen to all my userids and passwords.
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@nova1945 (1612)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I have taken my laptop with me before and the only hassel has been having to take it out of the case in security and then put it back (along with shoes) at the end of the line when you get through. But I had no idea they could download your data. There is nothing very sensitive on mine, but it still belongs right where it is as far as I'm concerned. I worry about the xray machine too, but I guess that's safe enough. I have stopped taking mine just because of the hassel I mentioned above, it's not worth it.
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
18 Jul 08
This terrorists are scaring the US customs to the hilt and driving them to the point of getting crazy! Well, can't do anything if that is their policy. You're right just don't bring your laptop to avoid all those hassles and invasion of privacy. Better yet don't go to USA, there are better places out there anyway!
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@stagewhisper (901)
• United States
18 Jul 08
In a way, it's sad how paranoid the US customs have gotten over the past few years. It's not like the world was any more or less safe than it ever has been; it's just the aftereffects of something actually happening. This does remind me, though; I'll be taking my laptop overseas with me this fall, and I usually have my account password protected just because I don't like people rifling through my fanfiction/stories. I guess I should take the password protection down for the duration of the flight. I don't need my laptop ruined over something stupid.
@greysfreak (1384)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I think I have heard about something like this before, and it makes me mad!
I'm not sure if it applies to even US citizens, but the way things are going, that wouldn't surprise me!
Anyway, the thing that bothers me is, my laptop is mine, and only mine! I trip out if my friends mess around with it too much, so if these people wanted to copt my hard drive, I would leave that place and just not travel! LOL I just think that this is an invasion of privacy and you are right, most likely terrorists are not going to send e-mails and stuff! Most likely they wouldn't even put them on computer, I'm sure most of their plans are either on paper or in their heads, I mean.. otherwise they could be found easier or something.
I'm not sure if it applies to even US citizens, but the way things are going, that wouldn't surprise me!
Anyway, the thing that bothers me is, my laptop is mine, and only mine! I trip out if my friends mess around with it too much, so if these people wanted to copt my hard drive, I would leave that place and just not travel! LOL I just think that this is an invasion of privacy and you are right, most likely terrorists are not going to send e-mails and stuff! Most likely they wouldn't even put them on computer, I'm sure most of their plans are either on paper or in their heads, I mean.. otherwise they could be found easier or something. @agihcam (1914)
• Philippines
18 Jul 08
This is new to me. The last time I have traveled to US with laptop is they are checking whether it is really a laptop, I open the case, pull out my laptop and put it on the table, I thought it was done, but the officer asked me to turn on my laptop, I told to them that I can't because the battery pack is not working, I get the cord and look for an outlet, but then he said ok, that's fine.
But based on your information, I think it is a tedious process for them just to search for nothing.















